David Guyatt Wrote:Thanks Lauren.

Of course it's about the dollar. What gets me though, is that the US allowed the banking cartel to rob the US and the rest of the world blind and bring the dollar to its knees leading to the giant crash of 2008. For me this was the elites robbing the US of its wealth - and the rest of the world too. I always figured this was because they saw the inevitable changes coming as the world slowly realigned itself.

If not what was the greatest theft in history all about?

Greed certainly. But anyone with an ounce of common sense could see what happened was inevitable because that level of gearing/leverage was impossible to sustain, and was going to end incredibly badly (as it did). I very clearly saw what was happening as far back as 20 years ago, so bank chairman, fed governors and all the others must've seen it too. And let it happen?

Quote:"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
-- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 20

Lauren Johnson Wrote:

David Guyatt Wrote:Thanks Lauren.

Of course it's about the dollar. What gets me though, is that the US allowed the banking cartel to rob the US and the rest of the world blind and bring the dollar to its knees leading to the giant crash of 2008. For me this was the elites robbing the US of its wealth - and the rest of the world too. I always figured this was because they saw the inevitable changes coming as the world slowly realigned itself.

If not what was the greatest theft in history all about?

Greed certainly. But anyone with an ounce of common sense could see what happened was inevitable because that level of gearing/leverage was impossible to sustain, and was going to end incredibly badly (as it did). I very clearly saw what was happening as far back as 20 years ago, so bank chairman, fed governors and all the others must've seen it too. And let it happen?

What's it all about? Here's my guess:

Quote:"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
-- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 20

Quote:Clearly, the world is now changing very rapidly and new banking/economic systems are developing that are outside their control and jurisdiction.

Lauren Johnson Wrote:

Quote:Clearly, the world is now changing very rapidly and new banking/economic systems are developing that are outside their control and jurisdiction.

The Quigley quote summarizes the long term, back channel CFR end game. I interpret what you are saying, David, is that this project is coming to and end and was being seriously challenged back in 2008 such that "they" decided on the "nuclear option" of grabbing all they could get.

Would you mind saying more about these "new banking/economic systems" back seven or eight years ago that would cause them to panic? I don't see them myself? Now? Eurasia.

R.K. Locke Wrote:Robert Rubin, of course, "spent 26 years at Goldman Sachs", the creators of BRICS:

http://www.goldmansachs.com/our-thinking/archive/brics-dream.html

R.K. Locke Wrote:Robert Rubin, of course, "spent 26 years at Goldman Sachs", the creators of BRICS:

http://www.goldmansachs.com/our-thinking/archive/brics-dream.html

Drew Phipps Wrote:

R.K. Locke Wrote:

Drew Phipps Wrote:Don't mean to hijack the thread, but tell me more about the Bush's Latin American ranch? on another thread, or PM?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips

Sorry, this article is full of geographical inaccuracies. The Chaco is indeed in the northwest part of Paraguay, but Paso de Patria is in the extreme SW corner, and the aquifer that this article speculated GWB wants to control is in the south east. The Chaco is near the "lowlands" of Bolivia (not the part where the E. coca var coca grows) and the jungle of Brazil.

In an entirely coincidental and unrelated matter, I'm certain, Brazil is beginning to be concerned about the security of its borders. It would seem that cocaine is smuggled into Brazil thru the jungle and that crack is beginning to be sold in the streets of Brazil.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/brazil-battles-cocaine-trafficking-along-long-porous-borders/2013/01/24/7a1fc19e-60c1-11e2-bc4f-1f06fffb7acf_story.html

P.S. As of 2010, the USA and Paraguay do have an extradition treaty.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Drew Phipps Wrote:P.S. As of 2010, the USA and Paraguay do have an extradition treaty.

Which brings great comfort to the Bushes.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

R.K. Locke Wrote:Robert Rubin, of course, "spent 26 years at Goldman Sachs", the creators of BRICS:

http://www.goldmansachs.com/our-thinking/archive/brics-dream.html

I'm not aware of any Goldman involvement in the creation of BRICs. The term BRIC was used as an acronym to identify the new emerging economies of India, Russia, China and Brasil and that is what that article is referring to. The BRIC countries themselves at the PM/presidential level established the banking BRICS as a means of by passing the Goldman Sachs system as they had witnessed the spectacular clusterfuck meltdown of 2008. None of the PMs or presidents of BRICS have Goldman Sachs credentials nor their finance or treasury advisers. Or none that I have found. Though I have no doubt GS would love to get their hands on it.