Groden Speaks About The Wiegman Film And Prayer Man

[Brian Doyle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuHl4DXBnnk&t=26s



   If the research world wasn't enough of a train wreck already Robert Groden was interviewed by Jess Connell above concerning Jefferson Morley's revelation of Groden having the original Wiegman Film...Unfortunately it becomes evident that neither Groden or Connell have any idea of what the Prayer Man theory is about...It is obvious from watching the video that both Groden and Connell think the Prayer Man theory is the Doorway Man Billy Lovelady theory so the video is basically a 45 minute waste of time...I contacted Jess Connell and told her the mistake she made and she admitted she had erred and would seek to learn about the Prayer Man theory...I would like to note that Connell did not put me on block or ban me from her comments section or group up and rally against me with childish shunning...Instead, like a credible researcher, she listened to me and admitted her mistake...We are now at the same place we could have been 8 years ago if the research community had cooperated instead of censoring...

I contacted Morley and told him about it...  

The only good thing is Groden confirmed the location of the film at the Long Island Archive...That is the same location Gilbride and I located the film at in 2018 through the UCLA Film School...Groden also confirmed that the last time it was located there was in the 1970's just like Gilbride and I confirmed...What the present research community does is censor and ignore the people with the evidence they are looking for and then pretend not to notice that they are uncredibly denying themselves the very information they are seeking...

[Brian Doyle]

I called Jefferson Morley and Larry Schnapf two days ago and informed them of the Jess Connell video with Robert Groden, both of whom never heard of or saw the video...Apparently Schnapf made some progress and located the NBC Long Island Archive Groden mentioned in the video...The Long Island City Archive is the same location The UCLA Film Archive pointed Gilbride and myself to in 2018...I did not pursue it because Oliver Stone's producer Rob Wilson made me believe NBC was in possession of the original film and they were useless... 

Schnapf discovered that NBC donated all film materials in that Archive to a National Film Preservation Archive in 1985 in Washington DC...I guess the Wiegman Film was right under the Task Force's nose the whole time...

No mention or credit of myself by Schnapf...

We'll see if this results in the obtaining of the in-can Wiegman original soon...

The first thing that should be done with it if it is found is the Davidson enhancement showing Stanton's face on Prayer Man should be replicated...Scientific replication is proof and will show that the Davidson enhancement I tried to show in 2016 (and was wrongfully banned for doing so) was good enough 10 years ago and solved the issue 10 years ago...

[Brian Doyle]

It has been over 2 weeks now and we have no word from Schnapf on the locating of the original Wiegman and Darnell films...This is un-assuring because 2 weeks should have been enough time for the National Audio Visual Conservation Center to comment whether or not they possessed the original films...I was directly responsible for Schnapf's locating of the films and was the person who first notified him of Groden's statement...Schnapf shows his appreciation for my guidance by not even answering my attempts to find out more about what is happening...These are the people who ignored the fact Prayer Man was already proven to be Sarah Stanton and pursued Greg Parker's apocryphal Prayer Man theory to Congress...

This is disturbing because a few days ago Schnapf posted that any requests to view the original Wiegman or Darnell films should be sent to the Library Of Congress and they will obtain the necessary scans from the NAVCC...I called Morley a couple of days ago and told him that I was worried Schnapf was going to leave it at that and that was his final word...I advised Jefferson that having NAVCC simply send a scan of Wiegman was not nearly good enough and that it perhaps showed that Mr Schnapf did not know what was required on a technical basis...I then explained to Morley that the original Wiegman film needed very specific technical treatment, especially the steady frame that Davidson isolated and enhanced, and that this had to be related to anyone attempting to examine the film for Prayer Man...Morley once again sternly insisted that Schnapf knew what needed to be done...I have been trying to contact Schnapf (who was quite responsive when I helped him locate the films) in order to familiarize him with these requirements but have been met with silence...  

This silence is not good...We are owed a response...Morley and Schnapf, at the very least, should be telling us how they are getting Luna to use her Congressional clout to subpoena the original films from the National Audio Visual Conservation Center...After all, this would obviously be the thing to do if the purpose is obtaining the original Prayer Man films...If this somehow happens the Task Force technicians will need specific instructions on how to isolate and enhance Prayer Man similar to what Chris Davidson did...You can't trust the Prayer Man people to do this because they will not help disprove themselves so they are not interested in replicating Davidson or bringing Sarah Stanton's face out on Prayer Man...

Lastly, if they can't find the original Darnell Film then the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy should be obtained and professionally examined...The Prayer Man people are avoiding this because they already know that the Jones film to film copy in possession of the 6th Floor Museum shows Sarah Stanton's dress neckline on Prayer Man...The Prayer Man people are scoundrels who call for the original films and then do their best not to get them...

Schnapf wrote:

If a researcher want to review footage, they must provide notice to the Library of Congress which will notify the NAVCC. The NAVCC will digitalize the film and it could be viewed using equipment at the Moving Image Research Center at the James Madison Building on Capitol Hill.

[Brian Doyle]

I just got off the phone with the Library Of Congress Moving Image Research Center that is the headquarters for the National Audio Visual Conservation Center...The agent was helpful and advised that the archive NBC sent to the NAVCC was actually just entertainment films and did not include news...The agent there said if the films exist they are probably still at the NBC Long Island City Archive...The best move at this point is probably a subpoena by Luna...

The question now is if NBC actually looked or if the originals no longer exist...

If they no longer exist the best copies are probably NBC's existing scan files of those films...

[Brian Doyle]

This film-seeking process is too secretive...I think Schnapf is in contact with Bart Kamp and Kamp is guiding the search...I told Schnapf to obtain the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell because it is the best known copy that shows Sarah Stanton's dress neckline...Schnapf responded by saying he saw an e-mail from Fagin that made him think the 6th Floor Museum copy was not original enough...This is not a good sign because no one fit enough to be in charge of the acquisition would ever say that or cite Fagin - who obviously doesn't have any technical knowledge...Gary Mack had technical credibility and he said the 6th Floor Museum copy of Darnell was a 1st generation copy...Proof that the 6th Floor Museum copy is 1st generation is in the film itself that shows things in better resolution, therefore proving it is a 1st generation film to film copy...Also, if you trace that film and its origin from Dr Jones he made that copy 50 years ago at a time when all copies were film to film...The 6th Floor Museum copy has never been put to digital enhancement, which would make the images even sharper than they already are...To avoid this film without ever having attempted to enhance it is research negligence and incompetence...It tells me Kamp is probably guiding Schnapf and is getting Schnapf to avoid evidence that refutes Prayer Man being Oswald...The Luna search for the originals is rigged in other words and under the control of the Prayer Man group...The 6th Floor Museum's copy of Darnell is the best known copy and therefore must be obtained and digitally enhanced...To not do so is to work against your own purpose and serve the dishonest interests and methods of the Prayer Man people...

Furthermore, if somehow the originals are obtained, how the films are analyzed is very critical to determining the identity of Prayer Man (that has already been proven to be Sarah Stanton)...The same enhancement process that allowed Chris Davidson to bring Sarah Stanton's face out of that dark area in the portal needs to be applied...I'm sorry but so far, from what I have seen, I have very little confidence that the current people in charge will do this...I believe the reason this is all being done in secret is because the Prayer Man people are controlling the process and keeping the necessary technical measures from being taken...No serious research effort would make an effort to avoid the 6th Floor Museum copy...All this business has the shadow of the Prayer Man group's dark hand and their corruption of the evidence...

[Brian Doyle]

Schnapf says there is an NBC storage facility in north Bergen New Jersey that the NBC newsreels might be located in...If so that would mean either NBC didn't do a thorough search or they did and the original Wiegman and Darnell films are not there...

This means the finding of the films is in the hands of the NBC personnel who search for it at the New Jersey storage facility...As well as the Task Force personnel who direct NBC...People who have already shown a questionable level of due diligence and knowledge of the subject matter...

That facility is not far from where I live so I might be able to help...