The Fiasco of Spartacus

[Vanessa Loney]

BTW, isn't it odd, that no one I know at EF has even mentioned John Newman's new book, or his upcoming trilogy. Its like it does not exist.

I'll admit I found that extremely odd. I visit the DPF a few times a week, and visit the EF every few weeks to see what's up. I would have thought Newman's new book would have been big news, but there wasn't a peep about it from the various regulars there, unless I missed it. I have John's book on my phone (Kindle) but have been too busy to get through it yet.

From Vanessa -

The one time I did venture on the H&L thread on the EF was to take you to task for saying that Australians couldn't do maths or understand English

I'm probably awful at maths. I suspect I'm better at English. Note for the record, I spent a couple of months proofreading Greg's book (minus the final chapter, as health issues prevented me from devoting further time to it). I've been loath to dig into any of the agitated threads here or at Greg's forum regarding the Harvey and Lee evidence, but will note that the animosity flying back and forth doesn't thrill me.

I take it DVP is still present at EF. He's as much of a troll and time-waster as Colby was. The 'no trolls' rule generally enforced here at DPF has much to recommend it.

Hi Anthony

I don't know why Newman's book hasn't been discussed but I'll raise it when I get back over to EF. Which should be any time soon.

DVP is still on EF but I haven't engaged with him at all. I just stick to the Prayer Man thread and he hasn't come on there.

[Karl Kinaski]

Mary Ferrell once tried to recommend to me John K. Lattimer's
LINCOLN AND KENNEDY: MEDICAL AND BALLISTIC COMPARISONS
OF THEIR ASSASSINATIONS as the best study of the medical
evidence in the JFK assassination. I had read it, so this was one
of the moments when I was alerted to her true nature as a
disinformation specialist.

Judyth Baker discovered that somebody at the Ferrell Foundation is altering evidence:

quote JVB (about her work at Reillys/NOLA with Oswald...)

...I have 11. Hired the same day, May 9, 1963, by Wm. B. Reilly as was Lee Oswald. Started at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary to Reilly, the same day. Moved, one week later, on the same day, May 16, to Reilly from Standard with Lee. My initial J' is on most of Lee's time cards, though two "J's' were recently erased at the Mary Ferrell Foundation site (the originals as in National Archives remain unchanged).

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KK

[Dawn Meredith]

Mary Ferrell once tried to recommend to me John K. Lattimer's
LINCOLN AND KENNEDY: MEDICAL AND BALLISTIC COMPARISONS
OF THEIR ASSASSINATIONS as the best study of the medical
evidence in the JFK assassination. I had read it, so this was one
of the moments when I was alerted to her true nature as a
disinformation specialist.

Judyth Baker discovered that somebody at the Ferrell Foundation is altering evidence:

quote JVB (about her work at Reillys/NOLA with Oswald...)

...I have 11. Hired the same day, May 9, 1963, by Wm. B. Reilly as was Lee Oswald. Started at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary to Reilly, the same day. Moved, one week later, on the same day, May 16, to Reilly from Standard with Lee. My initial J' is on most of Lee's time cards, though two "J's' were recently erased at the Mary Ferrell Foundation site (the originals as in National Archives remain unchanged).

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KK

Very odd. Why on earth would HER initials be on someone else's time card? Of course she comes up with a new one fairly often. I long ceased trying to keep up. What say you DJ?

[David Josephs]

Mary Ferrell once tried to recommend to me John K. Lattimer's
LINCOLN AND KENNEDY: MEDICAL AND BALLISTIC COMPARISONS
OF THEIR ASSASSINATIONS as the best study of the medical
evidence in the JFK assassination. I had read it, so this was one
of the moments when I was alerted to her true nature as a
disinformation specialist.

Judyth Baker discovered that somebody at the Ferrell Foundation is altering evidence:

quote JVB (about her work at Reillys/NOLA with Oswald...)

...I have 11. Hired the same day, May 9, 1963, by Wm. B. Reilly as was Lee Oswald. Started at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary to Reilly, the same day. Moved, one week later, on the same day, May 16, to Reilly from Standard with Lee. My initial J' is on most of Lee's time cards, though two "J's' were recently erased at the Mary Ferrell Foundation site (the originals as in National Archives remain unchanged).

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KK

Very odd. Why on earth would HER initials be on someone else's time card? Of course she comes up with a new one fairly often. I long ceased trying to keep up. What say you DJ?

http://www.ctka.net/2015/JudythBaker-DJ.pdf


It was JVB's contention that the jobs at Reily and her first one at Royal Castle were COVER JOBS... she was a medical research prodigy... not a clerical assistance...

Baker documented how cover jobs were arranged for herself and Oswald, where they spent approximately half their time. Though she was a slow typist, Baker said arrangements were made to hire her as a secretary for former FBI agent William I. Monaghan, Wm. B. Reily Coffe Company's Vice President of Security, Finance and Field Sales. After moving into nearby apartments the same week, Baker and Oswald rode the same bus to and from work together the next eleven weeks. Both Baker and Oswald began their employment on the same day, at a (then) small subsidiary company, Standard Coffee, owned by Reily, where their background reports were laundered and Baker was taught how to handle the Vice President's secretarial duties. A week later, the two new employees were transferred together to Reily's main company. WC documents support these facts.

So we are to believe that her job included the placing a single "J" on time cards (or just Oswald's?) for the VP of the company?
And we are asked to further believe that these single "J"'s are so unique as to be only associated with JVB...

Within this need to keep their Love affair secret, the VP acting as a CIA front, has her place HER MARK, easily identified as only being Judyth's, on Oswald's time card so they are forever tied together...
Not exactly keeping things secret, is it?

There are no links in her blog to these images... google does not return anything for Oswald's time cards from Reily...

How exactly does one prove that a single letter on a time card is HER MARK... ?? And why on only a portion of the cards?
What EXACTLY was she doing for the VP at the time - her "secretarial duties"?

If this is anything like the W-2 evidence... it could be interesting.

[Anthony Thorne]

I was going to cut-and-paste some of Walt Brown's commentary re JVB for the dates mentioned here from his opening JFK Chronology volume 'DYNASTY' - he read and deconstructed Baker's book and matched all of her statements to other documented events, and then tallied her unfounded assertions and leaps in logic for page after page - but it seems like a complete waste of time. I've read Brown's 'DYNASTY' twice - it's over a million words long and comes in at a tidy 1868 A4 pages (in tiny Garamond font 9.5) - and the repeated fantasies from Baker are among the most tedious, annoying and ludicrous parts of that otherwise very readable volume. It's clear early on that her fictitious narrative has more holes of logic than there are potholes in the surface of the moon, but Brown soldiers on to pick apart the entire book, and he eventually apologises to the reader midway through for wasting so much time on her.

[Tom Scully]

He's back! What on earth are you thinking? They erased 5000 of your posts, or they sat there and acted that vandalism was not a problem or that you deserved such disrespect and abuse. People who defended what was done to you there are still in charge. The false accusations posted against both of us are still up on "The Future of the Forum" thread.

I am sure you have your reasons.

[Dawn Meredith]

He's back! What on earth are you thinking? They erased 5000 of your posts, or they sat there and acted that vandalism was not a problem or that you deserved such disrespect and abuse. People who defended what was done to you there are still in charge. The false accusations posted against both of us are still up on "The Future of the Forum" thread.

I am sure you have your reasons.

And to argue with DVP who seems to be there full time defending the big lie. What a time suck. I mean it's good to see him posting there but I cannot fathom why anyone even replies to or addresses DVP.

[Jim DiEugenio]

I didn' t like DVP calling me a clown.

Second, I got the impression that Davey was essentially browbeating the opposition down.

Therefore, I thought it was necessary for Spartacus to arrange a jail break.

Some of those new people are not familiar with the techniques Davey uses.

[Dawn Meredith]

Name calling will get you this:

"Greg Parker is suspended for 72 hours for offensive behaviour."

[Jim DiEugenio]

I didn't see that.

I don't go on those Harvey and Lee threads over there.