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I would agree with previous comment, for the most part.
The 'goal' was maximum terror. Hijackings are very powerful in that regard. It could be the design was 'crash the planes, then bring down the towers and make it Look like the planes did it'
Or it could have been 'hijack planes, crash them , bring down the towers'. Only to subsequently find that the Zelikow story had no place for demolition, and it could have been a complete surprise to the planners that this would be the official narrative.
I'm sure the Kennedy assassins didn't envision the magic bullet theory.
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It might be more difficult to get people to believe that Al Qaeda had access to military-grade explosives and could somehow get them into the buildings on their own (though not impossible - London 7/7 for example, or Oklahoma City). Unfortunately, most people are easy to fool because they've spent their lives watching dumb TV shows and movies that depict someone blowing up a city/fortress/whatever with a matchbox-size bomb made in their garage, or cars that explode in an inferno when they crash.
The excessive explosions of 9/11 were easy for most Americans to believe in because they'd been pre-programmed to think in those terms.
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Quote: As for the bombers not bothering the conceal their involvement - they didn't need to, as the MSM and Government did it for them. Fourteen years on and despite the fact that a significant % of the general public supposedly don't buy the official story, how often are these discrepancies discussed in public unless it's to disparage 'Conspiracy Theorists'?
So your theory is that there are two separate groups involved, one group perpetuated the act (bringing down the building), and one group perpetuating the cover-up.
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Drew Phipps Wrote:Quote: As for the bombers not bothering the conceal their involvement - they didn't need to, as the MSM and Government did it for them. Fourteen years on and despite the fact that a significant % of the general public supposedly don't buy the official story, how often are these discrepancies discussed in public unless it's to disparage 'Conspiracy Theorists'?
So your theory is that there are two separate groups involved, one group perpetuated the act, and one group perpetuating the cover-up.
Just as in the JFK assassination, the planners [not the grunts on the ground doing things they were told to do] pre-planned a disinformation campaign and a cover-up [that had to adapt to mistakes and changes, unforeseen problems]; however, the groups that do the cover-up are a larger set of persons [JFK and 911 and all such false-flag ops like 7/7 and Oklahoma, by the way..], but they include the subset of the originators of the plot/false-flag black op. In both groups there is some compartmentalization; more so in the cover-up group - some of which know only small parts [or NO parts] of the real planners/planning/events/scenario...but none the less for National Security [sic] reasons and their sense of duty to the organizations they belong to and false sense of 'patriotism' will follow out these orders without question and keeping the secrecy requested and part of their positions.
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Drew Phipps Wrote:Quote: As for the bombers not bothering the conceal their involvement - they didn't need to, as the MSM and Government did it for them. Fourteen years on and despite the fact that a significant % of the general public supposedly don't buy the official story, how often are these discrepancies discussed in public unless it's to disparage 'Conspiracy Theorists'?
So your theory is that there are two separate groups involved, one group perpetuated the act (bringing down the building), and one group perpetuating the cover-up.
No, more that various parties with mutually beneficial goals came together and planned the whole thing. The Cover-Up is nothing more than the MSM putting out the stories that the Government tells them to.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Just as in the JFK assassination, the planners [not the grunts on the ground doing things they were told to do] pre-planned a disinformation campaign and a cover-up [that had to adapt to mistakes and changes, unforeseen problems]; however, the groups that do the cover-up are a larger set of persons [JFK and 911 and all such false-flag ops like 7/7 and Oklahoma, by the way..], but they include the subset of the originators of the plot/false-flag black op. In both groups there is some compartmentalization; more so in the cover-up group - some of which know only small parts [or NO parts] of the real planners/planning/events/scenario...but none the less for National Security [sic] reasons and their sense of duty to the organizations they belong to and false sense of 'patriotism' will follow out these orders without question and keeping the secrecy requested and part of their positions.
Exactly.
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What the rest of you guys are saying is different than what Garretson is saying: That the guys that brought down the buildings didn't care whether or not the methods and equipment they used to drop the buildings could be, or would be, subsequently covered up.
Kinda like the state of mind a real terrorist would have.
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Quote:No, more that various parties with mutually beneficial goals came together and planned the whole thing. The Cover-Up is nothing more than the MSM putting out the stories that the Government tells them to.
And the 911 Commission... And the NIST report... And the "falsified images"... And the "man on the street" with the official narrative explaining the building collapse within minutes of the event... And the SEC... And then (probably) somebody taking notes of who isn't sticking to the official narrative... So this cover-up is more than a mere media event.
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Drew Phipps Wrote:What the rest of you guys are saying is different than what Garretson is saying: That the guys that brought down the buildings didn't care whether or not the methods and equipment they used to drop the buildings could be, or would be, subsequently covered up.
Kinda like the state of mind a real terrorist would have.
Correct, Just saying it is a possibility; trying to keep the 'simplest' explanation as an option.
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Thermite-Filled Pumpkins Explode Into Fireballs, And It's Wicked Fun
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/blow...on=science
You gotta watch the video.
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Drew Phipps Wrote:Thermite-Filled Pumpkins Explode Into Fireballs, And It's Wicked Fun
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/blow...on=science
You gotta watch the video.
Now there's some Halloween fun! !
We should remember the molten slag at the bottom of the WTC pile was largely iron.
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