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ISIS: Terror In America
#11
Something doesn't seem to fit. We are told that in his garage or home he had many pipe-bombs and equipment to make more of them, as well as many more weapons and ammunition. Also, that he was a happy [as reported by his fellow workers] health inspector who got along with his co-workers. There are unconfirmed reports of his having had a dispute with someone or more than one person at a 'Christmas Party', and then suddenly going home and returning with his new wife from Pakistan, both dressed in para-military outfits and both with assault rifles, leaving their six month old son with his mother as they had to 'go to the doctor'. They also supposedly had pipe bombs with them in the attack, but that these did not function for reasons unknown. There are two different reports - one of their leaving and changing cars; the other their staying in one escape car - both with their being cornered and killed by SWAT teams. Obviously, the shooting took place and people were killed, but there is something about this story that just doesn't fit....and it is hard to put one's finger on it - yet. If, as the media and authorities are trying to paint him as planning a big attack of some kind, it is hard to imagine over a dispute at a party, he'd change his long planned attack and just drop off his son, take his wife and stage an ad hoc one. If this was his planned attack, then why waste all the extra explosives and firepower at home? It also is a very non-standard image of the typical Islamic wife - in military clothes, brandishing and using an assault weapon as well as explosives. Maybe they were just an illogical and belligerent couple who also cared little about their young son becoming an orphan. Strange.

America now averages one shooting of someone unknown to the attacker, and unrelated to robbery, per day! Mass shootings, like this one are definitely common and on the increase.

American exceptionalism, for sure.
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#12
There are several odd things about this one. It is all over the media here now that they are going with this as a terrorist event. Not a disgruntled worker. God knows the way most workers are fucked over there would be far more of them than any number of terrorists. Stockpiles of weapons, unclear exactly what and how much, but also that he/they had been in contact with 'extremists'. So all those billions of dollars on surveillance etc wasted once again. It does not 'keep us safe'. Not at all. If he was in contact with known extremist why let it get to this? Why was nothing done? That's the whole point of the loss of privacy and freedom they say.

And they have just had a baby. I know parenthood can cause great stress and then there is the whole lack of sleep thing that goes on for years. I'm amazed there are not more parents totally losing it really. Sounds like he went and bought himself a wife too so not sure how autonomous his wife is in all this.

What about the third person detained?
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#13
Lauren Johnson Wrote:One more minute on Fox: "We're going to have to be more like Israel."

And what would that be: provide the training to spot terror and then relying on special ops. Translated: turning the police into counter-terrorism experts and assassins.

The reason I focus on Fox is that it determines the "debate" on what to do.

Obama is a target with the narrative: he was out of the country worrying about the climate in France. Soft on terror.

Our next President will have to be a lot tougher.

Fox is the Zionist News Network. No other channel has such a parade of war criminals and liars masquerading as experts.
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#14
I suspect they - the shooters, were effectively indoctrinated by the enormous repetition and top billing of the terrorist boogeyman threat, the same top billing and enormous repetition that's intended to sow fear and incline society to look to their saviours. Like it says in some book I read, the self-justification of "No enemys, no KGB", and everybody likes the KGB, right? :Confusedheep::
Martin Luther King - "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
Albert Camus - "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion".
Douglas MacArthur — "Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons."
Albert Camus - "Nothing is more despicable than respect based on fear."
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#15
Have you seen the interview with the family attorney? The plot thickens.
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#16
Ken Garretson Wrote:Have you seen the interview with the family attorney? The plot thickens.

I just now saw a small clip. The thing that jumped out at me was that they were found dead and handcuffed? The clean-up crew had better get to work.
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#17
Do you have a link to the clip Lauren?

The even is being passed off as 'well organised' but I am not seeing this. So they have a stockpile of weapons. But that is no indication of being 'well organised' just hoarding guns instead of cats or old newspapers or clothes.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#18
Magda Hassan Wrote:Do you have a link to the clip Lauren?

The even is being passed off as 'well organised' but I am not seeing this. So they have a stockpile of weapons. But that is no indication of being 'well organised' just hoarding guns instead of cats or old newspapers or clothes.

This is the press conference. I was referencing and interview, which I am now looking for.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#19
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/12/04/...o-shooting
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#20
Ken Garretson Wrote:http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/12/04/...o-shooting

That's the one. Thanks.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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