Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Warren Commission Executive Session of 22 Jan 1964
#11
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Years ago I had a letter to the Ed. published in the Austin American Statesman. Thankfully I did not put "Attorney" before my name as it was responded to by none other than former AG Carr himself. He negatively compared me to the "fraudulent Oliver Stone" which of course was an enormous (and undeserved) compliment. I had all I could do to restrain myself from dialing 4-11 and calling him.

Years ago I read a funny story about this book. Someone had purchased a copy at a garage sale and it was signed by Ford. He had written "Best personal regards" but he had misspelled "personal". ::dancing guy::

Dawn

And there I was thinking Arthur Murray's Dancing Studios had some nifty moves, but this guy takes the cake. Move over Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire. Well, let's not get crazy, but check him out rocking the nifty moves.

Poor Gerald Ford, just when we thought he only failed at math and anatomy, there he goes proving to the world he's no shoo in for the National Spelling Bee contest either.

Sidebar: Dips hat @ Dawn for her courage and restraint w/AG Carr. Man what I'd give to have Mr. Lemkin's scenario of a sharp prosecutor seeking justice in this five decades old mystery. Throw the book at Allen Welsh Dulles on all counts. Thanks for sharing the title of Ford's book, Mr. Hargrove, perhaps the local library may have it on my next visit.

*Speaking of the Warren Commission, for those not already in the know, few and far between I'm sure, look who initially coined the phrase conspiracy theorist ----> http://impiousdigest.com/controlling-the-press/

What are these lying treasonous cowards so desperately trying to hide?!
Reply
#12
The source for Dulles' quote "But nobody reads. Don't believe people read in this country. There will be a few professors that will read the report…" is from Tad Szulc, The Warren Commission in its Own Words, New Republic, 9/27/1975:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...HW-13A.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...HW-13B.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...-13C-1.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...-13C-2.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...-13C-3.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...HW-13D.pdf
Reply
#13
We're also never likely to see declassified exec session transcripts from the 9/11 Commission. Compared to the 9/11 Commission, the Warren Commission was a model of transparency. So many more supporting documents were published in 1964. Though some documents have been made available online in recent years, there was no comparable 26 volumes of testimony and evidence published in 2004.
Reply
#14
Tracy Riddle Wrote:The source for Dulles' quote "But nobody reads. Don't believe people read in this country. There will be a few professors that will read the report…" is from Tad Szulc, The Warren Commission in its Own Words, New Republic, 9/27/1975:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...HW-13A.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...HW-13B.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...-13C-1.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...-13C-2.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...-13C-3.pdf
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20F...HW-13D.pdf

Appreciate the interesting and informative links, Mr. Riddle, thanks for adding them here. Having already read through several of them, it's amazing what positions some of the Commission members held in private:

*Senator Russell's remarks are about as prophetic as can be, with him openly sharing some fifty years ago that 50 years later people will say the blame lays with Johnson because he wanted to be president....

*Then, way worse than the above scenario, the most telling sentiments of all, Mr. McCloy's concern ----> that the Commission allowed government agencies' (note plurality) reports to steer the inquiry when such agencies maybe culpable.

How do these lying treasonous cowards look at themselves in the mirror?

"Profiles In Courage" they are not. Any coward can shoot an unarmed man.

Any coward can blame someone else.

Any coward can continue to cover it up to this day.

Bunch of spineless, lying treasonous cowards. I dare any of these cowards if they haven't left this realm yet to come clean, or do they ascribe to once a coward, always a coward.

Imagine that, the Commission allowed government agencies' reports to steer the inquiry when such agencies maybe culpable...
Reply
#15
Hey there Alan...

I bet you also didn't know that the Warren Commissioners could unilaterally rewrite testimony if they felt it was too revealing or did not want certain info given out.

The taking of all the evidence Friday night is one example with Dulles simply crossing out the FBI EXPERT testimony and replacing it with an anwer of his own...


As my series states. The Evidence IS the Conspiracy. There is no evidence left which could tell us what actually happened.

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=7961&stc=1]


Attached Files
.jpg   Cadigan testimony changed from 400 items to latent fingerprint.jpg (Size: 157.64 KB / Downloads: 34)
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
R. Hunter
Reply
#16
David Josephs Wrote:Hey there Alan...

I bet you also didn't know that the Warren Commissioners could unilaterally rewrite testimony if they felt it was too revealing or did not want certain info given out.

The taking of all the evidence Friday night is one example with Dulles simply crossing out the FBI EXPERT testimony and replacing it with an anwer of his own...


As my series states. The Evidence IS the Conspiracy. There is no evidence left which could tell us what actually happened.

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=7961&stc=1]

Yes, you are absolutely right, Mr. Joseph. The truth never even had a chance, thanks for highlighting this fact even more so with the illustration shared.

The truth has only been served by the daring giants who came before us, and those of us today who care to right this wrong in this generation and beyond. Thank You! for being on the side of truth and justice.

Dulles' underhanded placement on the commission speaks volumes (just when I thought no one was capable of making Judas, Brutus or Benedict Arnold blush). Amazing what thirty pieces of silver can make some people do.
Reply
#17
Don't forget to throw into the 'mix' the very suspicious death of Hale Boggs, one of the two most vocal critics from within the Commission. I strongly suspect he was murdered to keep some of the evidence heard in the Commission a secret forever. Dulles, one of planners and impetus OF the assassination before the fact, and keep informed OF the assassination as it happened, was also the cover-upper in Chief on the Commission. I don't believe a single Commission member had any doubt that their conclusions were false, knowingly false and that a conspiracy of rather huge proportions were behind the assassination. Of course they also would know there was an active cover-up, as they were a central part of it. Disgusting; Illegal; Immoral; High-Treason.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Reply
#18
Well said, Mr. Lemkin.

Until you shared your post, I had no idea that of the seven (7) total commission members that three (3) of them actually had misgivings/opposed the findings (the aforementioned Boggs, and also Senator Sherman Cooper and Senator Richard Russell as well). Dipping my hat in remembrance of all three (thanks gentlemen for caring about honor, integrity, justice and truth).

More sentiments from the late Congressman Hal Boggs (RIP) ---->

"Over the postwar years, we have granted to the elite and secret police within our system vast new powers over the lives and liberties of the people. At the request of the trusted and respected heads of those forces, and their appeal to the necessities of national security, we have exempted those grants of power from due accounting and strict surveillance."
--House Majority Leader Hale Boggs, in a speech before Congress, 22 April 1971

"[FBI Director J. Edgar] Hoover lied his eyes out to the [Warren] Commission on Oswald, on Ruby, on their friends, the bullets, the gun, you name it."
--Hale Boggs

*Source: haleboggs.tripod.com

In respect to Mr. Boggs' congressional speech remarks above, we cannot say presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy didn't try to warn us of this emerging national security powerplay under afoot as early as President Eisenhower's 2nd Administration. .


So, the hotplace with the democratic Republic I see, and we are left with lying treasonous cowards and their ilk (grrr).
Reply
#19
Alan Ford Wrote:Well said, Mr. Lemkin.

Until you shared your post, I had no idea that of the seven (7) total commission members that three (3) of them actually had misgivings/opposed the findings (the aforementioned Boggs, and also Senator Sherman Cooper and Senator Richard Russell as well). Dipping my hat in remembrance of all three (thanks gentlemen for caring about honor, integrity, justice and truth).

More sentiments from the late Congressman Hal Boggs (RIP) ---->

"Over the postwar years, we have granted to the elite and secret police within our system vast new powers over the lives and liberties of the people. At the request of the trusted and respected heads of those forces, and their appeal to the necessities of national security, we have exempted those grants of power from due accounting and strict surveillance."
--House Majority Leader Hale Boggs, in a speech before Congress, 22 April 1971

"[FBI Director J. Edgar] Hoover lied his eyes out to the [Warren] Commission on Oswald, on Ruby, on their friends, the bullets, the gun, you name it."
--Hale Boggs

*Source: haleboggs.tripod.com

In respect to Mr. Boggs' congressional speech remarks above, we cannot say presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy didn't try to warn us of this emerging national security powerplay under afoot as early as President Eisenhower's 2nd Administration. .


So, the hotplace with the democratic Republic I see, and we are left with lying treasonous cowards and their ilk (grrr).

As I have related a few times over the decades on various Forums, I contacted Boogs' daughter [Cokie Roberts of NPR] and politely asked her some questions about her late father's feelings on the Commission and his mysterious death, after introducing myself as a serious researcher, my bona fides....blah, blah, blah.... I started with what I considered the least controversial and asked her what she knew of attempts to locate the plane her father was lost in in Alaska. She declined to say anything on that. Then I went into his objections to the Commission's conclusions and the 'work' of the FBI and CIA vis-a-vis the Commission. She was silent during my questions, and then said she had no comment on any of it, and then quickly hung up. Afraid for her job or afraid of her father's killers? (I don't claim to know)...but if I had to guess, I'd say a mix of both. Even in her silence and few words I sensed a great unease and fear in the subjects I was calling about.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Reply
#20
The media today is a cut-throat landscape where being caught saying anything about the CIA murder of government members, even benign comments about seeking Bogg's plane, will quickly find you having weird career problems.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Witnesses who were never called before the Warren Commission Gil Jesus 2 2,067 02-04-2022, 01:37 PM
Last Post: Milo Reech
  CBS and their 1964 Cover UP Jim DiEugenio 3 3,574 28-04-2019, 05:48 PM
Last Post: Alan Ford
  The Mystery Of Allen Dulles' Appointment To The Warren Commission James Lewis 3 3,735 09-02-2018, 02:33 PM
Last Post: James Lewis
  The Warren Commission and Mexico City Jim DiEugenio 0 3,131 27-04-2017, 08:58 PM
Last Post: Jim DiEugenio
  Former Warren Commission counsel Sam Stern Scott Kaiser 2 3,538 02-03-2017, 10:34 PM
Last Post: Scott Kaiser
  Gibson's Milestone Article on the Creation of the Warren Commission Jim DiEugenio 4 4,719 02-02-2017, 08:44 PM
Last Post: Jim DiEugenio
  Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts Jim DiEugenio 30 14,060 18-09-2016, 07:59 PM
Last Post: Richard Coleman
  Dick Cheney and Gerald Ford removed assassination plots from the Rockefeller Commission Report Anthony Thorne 5 5,125 02-03-2016, 04:24 PM
Last Post: Albert Doyle
  The truth behind the March 3, 1964 plot to assassinate Fidel Castro Scott Kaiser 2 3,294 24-02-2016, 03:22 AM
Last Post: Scott Kaiser
  The 2015 Hollywood mediation of Executive Action (1973) in the new movie Trumbo Nathaniel Heidenheimer 2 3,527 08-11-2015, 04:27 PM
Last Post: Nathaniel Heidenheimer

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)