Jim Hargrove Wrote:We can all get on each other's nerves from time to time, but I'm always inclined to cut Scott a little slack. If what he says is true, and I see no reason to believe it isn't, his father was in contact with several of the key players active in JFK's assassination as well as Watergate, and more.
Scott believes Frank Sturgis/Fiorini killed his father, and if so, that certainly fits with JA's and many others' research indicating Sturgis was a stone cold killer. John believes many of the suspicious deaths around the time of the assassination, the WC and the HSCA were carried out by Sturgis. There is a picture somewhere of the SOB himself with his boot on a bunch of dead bodies looking pretty pleased with himself.
When Marita Lorenz testified that she had seen "Lee Harvey Oswald" in the South Florida Everglades training with anti-Castro operatives, the HSCA's Fithian threatened her with a charge of perjury--and she still stuck to her story. She claimed CIA photographer Alex Rorke had taken pictures of Oswald in the camps, and of course, the HSCA made no effort I'm aware of to find them.
Thanks Jim, some folks don't get it. Probably never will, perhaps, it's because they are more into something more important? Themselves? The grave you're talking about was a mound of Batista's dead soldiers.
I don't just blame Frank for my father's death, but I also blame Richard Poyle, and I expose everything in my update. These folks who are too busy attacking me on these public forums never had a parent killed under these circumstances, how am I to expect ignorance too understand?
In-fact, I have recently sent all my evidence to the Miami Beach police department, I've done a more thorough investigation into the death of my father then the police, CIA or FBI has done, and the only reason they will not re-open the case even with what I submitted is because of the Coroner's report. I must first get the Coroner to change his report from accident to murder. I will not give up.
So, the only other way to expose my information is through my update, as well as expose how our government is able to conceal, cover-up, and get away with murder.
Just to further project this imagine. If the HSCA wasn't interested in making any effort to look for those photos, that's because Alex who was an acquaintance of my father and friend to Frank Sturgis also disappeared. Frank's friends never hung around for too long.
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Just to further project this imagine. If the HSCA wasn't interested in making any effort to look for those photos, that's because Alex who was an acquaintance of my father and friend to Frank Sturgis also disappeared. Frank's friends never hung around for too long.
Makes perfect sense! What's your take on Alex Rorke's death?
Here's what JA says:
NOTE: Rorke died in a plane crash in Mexico in May 1964, along with Hugh Ward,
DeLesseps Morrison (former Mayor of New Orleans), his 7-year-o/d son Christopher
Vengerdrift, 47-year-o/d Daleigh Pellegrin, and 59-year-old Ovide Genae. [SUP]SEP, 63-11[/SUP]
John also included this clip on the CD accompanying the book:
I re-published this info a couple of years ago, and the push-back was WAY harder than I'm accustomed to. Struck me as strange at the time.
Scott Kaiser Wrote:In-fact, I have recently sent all my evidence to the Miami Beach police department...
I hope these were copies Scott and not the originals. They may just go into a black hole never to be seen again.
Scott Kaiser Wrote:So, the only other way to expose my information is through my update, as well as expose how our government is able to conceal, cover-up, and get away with murder.
They are very experienced at cover ups and getting away with things. But keep putting the information out there. It is need to be out there for all sorts of reasons and who knows, things may eventually be picked up and progress made. If the information is not there no one will ever know. Didn't some one say that the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Scott, I believe I heard you mention long ago that you had been in contact with T. Plumlee. I hope so. He knew a lot of the people you are talking about and knew the camps in the Everglades et al. He knows a whole lot more than he'll discuss publicly, but likely would help you with your research privately.
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Scott Kaiser Wrote:In-fact, I have recently sent all my evidence to the Miami Beach police department...
I hope these were copies Scott and not the originals. They may just go into a black hole never to be seen again.
Scott Kaiser Wrote:So, the only other way to expose my information is through my update, as well as expose how our government is able to conceal, cover-up, and get away with murder.
They are very experienced at cover ups and getting away with things. But keep putting the information out there. It is need to be out there for all sorts of reasons and who knows, things may eventually be picked up and progress made. If the information is not there no one will ever know. Didn't some one say that the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice.
Hi Magda,
I would never give away any originals, over the pass year while moving my mother back to Florida I discovered more things including photos, now, I've put them all in my update, so the evidence becomes more credible.
Hi Peter,
Here's a conversation I had with Tosh if you haven't already heard it.
When Tosh mentioned a "sick monkey" I reacted the way I did because my father brought home a sick monkey in the early 70s, the monkey was epileptic and had a seizure in our backyard. My mother witnessed this monkey having the seizure and made my father give it back to whoever he got the monkey from. Just a coincidence?
I completely forgot to tell Tosh this in our conversation.
For some reason, I have a mountain of coincidences.
I'm not sure what to make of your post. Below are some notes I copied from Harvey and Lee
that might have some relevance to your research. Does anything below ring a bell with you?
11/21/63 - Shortly after 2:00 am (November 21) CIA asset Marita Lorenz said she saw Frank
Fiorini Sturgis, E. Howard Hunt, Jack Ruby, and "Ozzie" (Lee Oswald) in a Dallas
motel room .
November 22, Miami - In Miami CIA agent Frank (Fiorini) Sturgis (a future Watergate burglar,
along with E. Howard Hunt and Bernard Barker) was busy disseminating rumors which linked
Oswald to Cuba. Sturgis provided the press with reports that Oswald was a communist,
had recently been to Cuba, and had met with Castro.
The A.I.P. (Agencia de lnformaciones Periodisticas), a CIA backed "news ser*-
vice" in Miami, reported that Oswald had worked for Cuban intelligence. The FBI soon
traced this story to Frank (Fiorini) Sturgis and John Martino.46
Nixon - Without Johnson and Kennedy, former Vice-President Richard Nixon finally
managed to become the 37th President of the United States, with no serious opposition.
After taking office Nixon discussed the Warren Report with aides H.R. Haldeman and
Charles Colson and said, "It was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated." 2
The new President soon created a "dirty tricks" department to harass political
opponents that included CIA veterans E. Howard Hunt, Frank Fiorini Sturgis, Bernard
Barker, James McCord, G. Gordon Liddy, and many anti-Castro Cubans from Miami.
Their job was to create situations and fabricate documents to embarrass and humiliate
those who opposed Nixon and his policies. Their targets were the most prominent
democratic leaders of the late 1960's and included Senator Edward Kennedy, and Presi*
dential hopefuls Edmund Muskie and George McGovern.
1962 - By late summer DeMohrenschildt heard through his small circle of friends that
Lee Harvey and Marina Oswald recently arrived from Russia, and he wanted to meet
them. George and his friend Colonel Lawrence Orlof drove to Fort Worth and located
the Oswald's apartment on Mercedes. W hen Marina answered the door the two men
gave the name of George Bouhe as a reference and she invited them in. Oswald soon
arrived home from work and visited with the two men-first in English and then in
Russian. DeMohrenschildt noticed, "Lee spoke it (Russian) very well, with only a slight
accent ..... he had remarkable fluency in Russian."93
Christmas, 1962 - On Christmas Day, Mr. and Mrs. John (Elena) Hall visited the Oswalds at their
apartment on Elsbeth Street.166 Three days later, on Friday, December 28, Mrs. Declan
(Katya) Ford held a post-Christmas party gathering at her house in Dallas. At the request
of Jeanne DeMohrenschildt. who Mrs. Ford had known for 14 years. she invited the
Oswalds to her party.167 This was the third and last time Katya Ford would see either
of the Oswald's.
The party was attended by Lev Aronson, Thomas and Natalie Ray, Mr. and Mrs.
Daniel F. Sullivan, George Bouhe, Anna and Teofil Meller, Tatiana Biggers, Samuel
Ballen, Lydia Dymitruk, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Harris, George and Jeanne
DeMohrenschildt, and Yaeko Okui. Nearly all of these people were either Russian or
married to a former Russian national. George Bouhe remembered, "Late in the evening
George DeMohrenschildt and his wife appeared, accompanied by Lee Harvey and
Marina. I could almost hear a gasp among some of the people who were around me. We
were especially astounded that after having a couple of drinks and without seeing
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W/respect to Nixon, don't forget RFK. Nixon would have had no chance if Bobby had been alive, well, and running.
Quote:"It was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated." 2 The new President soon created a "dirty tricks" department to harass political opponents that included CIA veterans E. Howard Hunt, Frank Fiorini Sturgis, Bernard Barker, James McCord, G. Gordon Liddy, and many anti-Castro Cubans from Miami. Their job was to create situations and fabricate documents to embarrass and humiliate those who opposed Nixon and his policies.
