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Orlando, Fla. (home of giant theme parks) has 2 high profile murders in under 24 hours
#21
What if the exact same crime had been carried out by a white Christian fundamentalist gay-hater from South Carolina? The narrative would be totally different. The only mention of "terrorism" would be from the left. The right-wing media would be talking about how a poor, obviously deluded patriot, driven insane by the gay agenda and President Obama, had succumbed to a moment of madness, etc.
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#22
David Guyatt Wrote:Danny Hopsicker is posting some interesting facts on his FB account about this. Apparently, the shooter's father, Seddique Mateen, is linked to the Voice of America. I've tried to translate the link Daniel provided but not a lot of luck so far.

But in a later post, he says that the father is also linked to Pakistani's INI.

If the link to Voice of America is true as Danny says - and I have no doubt it is - then it must rank as highly significant given that Ruslan Tsarni, the uncle of the Boston Bombers, was directly linked to former CIA operative, Graham Fuller by marriage. Coincidences like this simply don't happen.

Hmmmm....maybe starting to look that way. I found the father's rather unemotional explanation that his son's action was due to being offended at homosexuality, not any political/jihadist/terrorist action a bit odd. Like so many other mass shootings there are in the 'official version' glaring contradictions and outright twisting of the truth, not to mention framing of the 'storyline'....but all is forgotten by the next one...which won't be long now.... there have been 173 mass shootings in the USA this year [only half a year so far]....
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#23
Link to Corbett's open source investigation:

https://www.corbettreport.com/the-orland...stigation/


Kevin Ryan's take:

https://digwithin.net/2016/06/13/orlando_g4s/
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#24
From The Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...liban.html


And Zero Hedge:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13...s-accounts
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#25
Hopsicker is now describing the father as a "long-time CIA asset." Where that info is coming from I have no idea.
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#26
Funny how these things work out.

Quote:Hillary Clinton on Monday broke from President Barack Obama in referring to the terrorist attack as "radical Islamism," countering Donald Trump's accusations that both she and Obama are weak on tackling terrorist threats.

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#27
Orlando Shooter Was Reportedly a Regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay Dating App


Gabrielle Bluestone
Today 6:35pm

Early Sunday morning, Omar Mateen shot and killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, perpetrating the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. Mateen, his father explained the next day, had repeatedly been angered by the sight of two men kissing. But according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man on a gay dating app.

Orlando Nightclub Gunman's Father Says Son Was Angry After Seeing Two Men Kissing

An MSNBC staff writer spoke with the father of Omar Mateen, the gunman who shot and killed at least … Read more


"It's the same guy," Chris Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press. "He's been going to this bar for at least three years."

Ty Smith, who also goes by the name Aries, also said he'd seen Mateen being escorted drunk from the club, Pulse, on multiple occasions.
"(He'd get) really, really drunk... He couldn't drink when he was at homearound his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to bitch about it," Smith told the Canadian Press.
"Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," Smith also explained to the Orlando Sentinel, which spoke with at least four clubgoers who remembered seeing Mateen at Pulse at least a dozen times. "We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times... He told us he had a wife and child."
Both Callen and Smith, who are married, tell the Canadian Press they stopped speaking to Mateen after he threatened them with a knife, apparently after someone made a joke about religion.
"He ended up pulling a knife," Callen said. "He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it'll turn out."
Mateen, who was married in 2009, was abusive and unstable, his ex-wife says. They were married for just a few months before her parents rescued her from their home in Florida, leaving most of her belongings behind. It's still unclear if he was married again after their divorce was finalized in 2011.

Ex-Wife of Alleged Orlando Shooter Says He Was Unstable and Abusive

The Washington Post spoke with the ex-wife of suspected Orlando shooter Omar Mateen, who says he… Read more


MSNBC host Chris Hayes also says he spoke to a man who claims both he and a friend received messages from Mateen via a gay dating app. The full story is set to air tonight on Hayes' show, All In.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-re...1781920316
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#28
So this guy really hated a part of himself. That explains a lot. He'd rather be remembered as a terrorist than as a closet homosexual.
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#29
Yes, seems to be the case.
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#30
I don't know if it is another puzzle piece, but have you noticed that the '50 dead' has changed to '49 dead' in the attack. Even police can count up to fifty and it is hard to imagine they had counted some dead body twice. Not sure what it means - perhaps they felt the body of the shooter should not be included [as in 911 where the supposed hijackers are not on any list of dead] - or something else.

Even a reporter for the BBC [not known to veer off the official story line] had a reporter reporting that after talking to many club regulars, the shooter was a regular there over several years and had been there many times, perhaps - and often had anger control problems at the club.

Many witnesses also reported automatic machinegun fire; several also said two or more shooters with automatic weapons.

The father's connections to ISI/CIA media assets and the son's working for G4S [which was involved in 911 and several other mass shootings and other suspicious events], plus his long having been 'watched' by the FBI and even interrogated by them, along with these other facts that do NOT fit the official version and are being ignored in the official investigation make this just one more in the rather endless mass shootings with false or misleading official scenarios. The 49 or 50 dead seems the only thing confirmed. Even the three hour 'standoff' is not explained in the official version - nor have I heard explained about the policeman who was apparently inside from the get-go. Very strange - just like the other mass shootings we have reviewed here.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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