I think it is going down now. Chertoff on Anti-Semitism

[Carsten Wiethoff]

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index...opic=18037

Of course, if through research it is established beyond doubt that some jews, namely some members of Mossad and the elite are guilty of horrendous crimes, everyone mentioning this is branded anti-semitic.

I, personally, am not anti-semitic, I am anti-crime, anti-lies and anti-dictatorship. And yes, I am anti-Chertoff.

Carsten

[Mark Stapleton]

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index...opic=18037

Of course, if through research it is established beyond doubt that some jews, namely some members of Mossad and the elite are guilty of horrendous crimes, everyone mentioning this is branded anti-semitic.

I, personally, am not anti-semitic, I am anti-crime, anti-lies and anti-dictatorship. And yes, I am anti-Chertoff.

Carsten

Like the blog says, America has been taken over from within. Ironically, only a few shots were required. Half a dozen or so in Dealey Plaza got the ball rolling.

Insidious is the perfect word to describe Zionism. America was always the perfect host for this parasite. Like a chameleon, Zionism can blend perfectly with the prevailing environment, as long as that environment has some resemblance to the parasite. America has greed, religious zeolotry and gun-toting violence in abundance so Zionism has flourished unnoticed and also comfortably escaped any blame for America's near terminal current condition. Only in a society which rewards greed and rejects all egalitarian notions would this be possible. Of course, Zionism has been massively aided by its total ownership of the mainstream media and the pitiful US Congress.

So it looks like the next step in the Orwellian nightmare is to denounce all opposed to the opaque (but traceable) Zionist ethic (neatly disguised as patriotism, security, democracy etc) as enemies of the state (anti-semites, criminals, terrorists etc) and deal with them harshly.

Linking 9/11 truthers with holocaust denial is a familiar first step on that road.

[Carsten Wiethoff]

What is their real relationship? I do not subscribe to the point of view that it started with JFK. Not even in the US.
Is Chertoff a Zionist? Or a Faschist? Or both?

Food for thought.

Carsten

[Mark Stapleton]

What is their real relationship? I do not subscribe to the point of view that it started with JFK. Not even in the US.
Is Chertoff a Zionist? Or a Faschist? Or both?


Carsten

Of course Zionism didn't start in '63. Baron Rothschild began the Jewish settlement program in Palestine in the 1880's.

I'm saying the Zionist capture of US policy dates from Dealey Plaza, with a brief interlude when Jimmy Carter tried to broker an honest peace deal in the late 70's. In saying this, I'm simply relying on the empirical evidence from 1963 to now.

I think Zionism somewhat resembles Nazism. Both shared expansionist aims. Israel has never declared its borders and the aspirations of 'greater Israel' are now well understood throughout the world. Nazis persecuted and committed genocide on Jews. Israel has done the same to the Palestinians. If you substitute 'master race' with 'God's chosen people' you basically get the same result--an elite race which believes it is fully justified in crushing 'lesser races' and stealing their lands through force.

As an ideology, Zionism is near the end of its shelf life now, I think. Support for it in the west is rapidly crumbling. It owes its much greater longevity than Nazism to the fact that Zionists have controlled the western media for the last sixty years or so and have had the generous and unconditional patronage of the world's most powerful nation since November 22, 1963.

[Carsten Wiethoff]

One has to be very careful not to describe Zionism as the only element responsible for the current world situation.
First, certainly most Zionists are not even remotely aware what has been (and is) going on, only a very small number of people sitting at the heart of the octopus are guilty in the sense that they consciously and willingly sold their soul.
The same is true for Christians. And Moslems. And Nihilists. And every other "religious" group.

This inner group has given up and betrayed any religion and humanity.

Then there are a larger number of people, who consciously committed crimes, like paid assassins or Intelligence Officers, who may or may not be religious, but they regarded what they did to be their duty, patriotic or otherwise, or simply did it for a living.
These people are guilty, but in another dimension than the first group.
For this group I can envision a kind of Truth Commission, where by acknowledging a crime, forgiveness can be supplied. It will be painful.

It is essential that the inner core is broken up. If it is allowed to remain intact, as after WWII, the world will be in the same situation again.

More food for thought.

Carsten

[Mark Stapleton]

One has to be very careful not to describe Zionism as the only element responsible for the current world situation.

First, certainly most Zionists are not even remotely aware what has been (and is) going on, only a very small number of people sitting at the heart of the octopus are guilty in the sense that they consciously and willingly sold their soul.
The same is true for Christians. And Moslems. And Nihilists. And every other "religious" group.

I don't think Zionism is responsible for every problem on the globe and I don't think I said that. It is responsible for the situation in the ME however and it has a mortal lock on the US legislature, which will have ramifications for America and the rest of the world, being that America provides Israel with financial, military and diplomatic support.

If Israel was a peaceful nation living harmoniously with its neighbours, who would care about what's going on over there? Not me.

But Zionist Israel is not like that, it has a record like Nazi Germany and the weapons capacity to do far greater damage. 5 or 6 invasions of Lebanon since 1982, regular assaults on Gaza including the latest tragic debacle, targeted assassinations, dead humanitarian and aid workers, an act of war against Iraq in 1982 and rabid supporter of the war in 2003, providing faulty intelligence about WMD's into the bargain.

It goes on endlessly. Israel is the world record holder for the longest illegal occupation. They ignore the UN (with America's help). Gaza is a concentration camp. Ships bringing food and medical supplies are intercepted, crews imprisoned. There's more but this post is getting long. Now Israel wants war with Iran. The region and who knows who else could go up in flames to fulfil some biblical prophesy. To regard Zionism as a threat to global security and stability is an understatement.

While all this goes on, one Government television broadcaster here in Australia, SBS, issues a decree to its news staff a few days ago that the word Palestine must not be used in stories concerning that region.

Apparently its too controversial.