Countering Hillary's Coup With a Counter Coup - or Not?

[Lauren Johnson]

Is it possible the recent counter coup announced by Steve Pieczenik, a former official in numerous Republican administrations, is actually part of a much larger dominant social theme designed to reinforce positive perceptions regarding the most secretive and powerful government agencies?

Global Research, one of the very best alternative websites, does us the favor of providing "a video presentation by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State." It has also provided us with a transcript of Pieczenik's remarks.

Pieczenik "has served as foreign policy expert in several US administrations including Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush."
More:

[FONT=&amp]The analysis and focus presented below must be taken very seriously. It sheds light on the ongoing political crisis in the US and the opposition which is developing from within the US intelligence community against the Clinton crime cabal.
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According to Pieczenik, "Hillary and Bill Clinton are attempting a takeover of the United States and will stop at nothing. A coup d'état of this magnitude has never been affected in such a subtly calculated way."

Pieczenik goes on to explain how the FBI, CIA, Pentagon and other official military-industrial agencies have gotten together silently to fight the silent "coup" of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Basically the argument is that "pay-to-play" has been created by the Clinton Foundation, which is apparently under substantive investigation.

Hillary and Bill would use their contacts and influence to push the US government into taking action in ways which enhanced the interests and profits of certain countries and individuals if they contributed to the Clinton Foundation.
The Foundation is evidently a government-in-waiting for the Clintons and having such a large entity as their disposal enhances their power considerably.

But both Hillary and Bill Clinton don't seem to be very stable people. Hillary has a horrible temper and is evidently contemptuous of those beneath her. Bill Clinton has been the subject of rape accusations and organized, international drug dealing - and Hillary has evidently abetted some of his worst behavior.

Yet it is certainly possible that neither Bill nor Hillary are fully aware of the scale of the manipulation in which they are enmeshed, nor its timeline. Are they now part of a rapidly unfolding psyop that has its roots decades ago?

Maybe Pieczenik, Julian Assange and others are indeed true heroes for countering the Clinton's emergent authoritarianism, as they appear to be. This is certainly an incredibly admirable and deserved perspective. But there are other interpretations.

Our primary purpose is to analyze elite dominant social themes and that's why we are raising these questions, hypothetical as they may be. Hillary Clinton is an apparent threat to the what's left of the liberties of the USA but there is a possibility, perhaps a slim one, that this new "coup" narrative is not what it seems.

Regardless of the status of the US corporation, democracy, republic the US functions, day-to-day, with a certain expectation of freedom. This is why those on "right" libertarian or conservative are evidently shocked (on videos and in print) when the US government and those behind it take actions that one would not expect to take place in a "republic."

Now we are informed that this sentiment is an animating force in parts of the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, etc. The counter-argument, of course, is that the FBI, CIA and Pentagon have not usually been seen as guardians of "freedom."

The FBI has put hundreds if not thousands of people in jail because of flawed fingerprint and hair analysis that some in the bureau knew to be false all along. To the best of our knowledge, a lot of the damage was never properly addressed.

The CIA is responsible for the deaths, injuries and miserable lives of millions, even billions, around the world because it represses freedom in favor of elite control of countries and their governments.

Constitutionally speaking, the FBI and CIA probably should not exist, let alone be spread around the world. The Pentagon, which recently mislaid $8 trillion, supports CIA covert intel actions with its own more overt military activities.

It is wonderful that people within them are supportive of freedom. But the CIA, FBI, Pentagon, etc., don't actually work for the people in the US. At the top levels, they seem to work for the private banking interests that have installed and organized them and are pursuing a greater globalism that likely includes the destruction of the US.

Today there is considerable conflict between private banking interests and the alternative Net media, and the people it represents. One way to reduce this conflict would be to make it clear to people who value a culture of freedom that the most authoritarian agencies in the US are secretly aligned with them. (See also our skeptical comments regarding the Brexit vote in our "populism vs. globalism articles.")

This seems beyond the pale and ludicrous but these banking interests are both subtle and powerful. One way or another, they evidently control the central banks of the world and thus hundreds of trillions of dollars. They may even have propagated a kind of nuclear myth, as we have pointed out here in the past, that has affected people's sentiments and priorities for decades.

They tend to work through the dominant social themes we analyze because they are absolutely determined that people are to back their globalist plans on a voluntary basis without knowing they are doing so.

In the Internet era, these "memes" have begun to founder in critical ways. But those creating them continue to try. They are abetted by millions (and more), who are aligned with them professionally or emotionally some because they don't know any better.

At the very top, everyone else is likely disposable (except for a handful of owners) and apt to be manipulated as necessary.

This is probably an article that many may react to emotionally and even negatively. But we are certainly not trying to support Hillary's campaign, only to point out that in this world not everything is at it seems, especially when it comes to authoritarian agents of the state.

Conclusion: Your first priority is to take care of yourself and your family. Politics, especially today, seems to offer the hope of greater freedom but usually does not. For more on the issues we've raised, please use a search engine to find "TheDailyBell" and "populism versus globalism" (here, here and elsewhere). These issues may be tied to an an even larger propaganda campaign.

Via The Daily Bell

[Cliff Varnell]

My comments in red.

Is it possible the recent counter coup announced by Steve Pieczenik, a former official in numerous Republican administrations, is actually part of a much larger dominant social theme designed to reinforce positive perceptions regarding the most secretive and powerful government agencies?

Global Research, one of the very best alternative websites, does us the favor of providing "a video presentation by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State." It has also provided us with a transcript of Pieczenik's remarks.

Pieczenik "has served as foreign policy expert in several US administrations including Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush."
More:

[FONT=&amp]The analysis and focus presented below must be taken very seriously. It sheds light on the ongoing political crisis in the US and the opposition which is developing from within the US intelligence community against the Clinton crime cabal.
[/FONT]
According to Pieczenik, "Hillary and Bill Clinton are attempting a takeover of the United States and will stop at nothing.

Translation: Blacks, Hispanics, and Asian-Americans supported Clinton in the primaries, and heavily support her in the general election. This means there is a "coup" by non-whites.

A coup d'état of this magnitude has never been affected in such a subtly calculated way."

Translation: Never before have non-whites constituted such a large percentage of the electorate -- 30%+.

Pieczenik goes on to explain how the FBI, CIA, Pentagon and other official military-industrial agencies have gotten together silently to fight the silent "coup" of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Translation: All the white guy bible-thumpers are gonna make America great again.

Basically the argument is that "pay-to-play" has been created by the Clinton Foundation, which is apparently under substantive investigation.

Pure unadulterated bullshit pushed by the alt.right.

Hillary and Bill would use their contacts and influence to push the US government into taking action in ways which enhanced the interests and profits of certain countries and individuals if they contributed to the Clinton Foundation.

Cenk Uygar did an analysis of Podesta's e-mails and found the Clintons peddling access to Dow Chemical.

There was no quid pro quo cited, only access.

I'm still waiting for a definite quid pro quo...Uranium deals signed off by 9 agencies?

That dog don't hunt.

Arm sales to the Saudis which have been going on for decades?

Spare me.

But it certainly is shocking -- shocking! -- that an American politician would sell access...gee, that never happens.::bowtie::

The Foundation is evidently a government-in-waiting for the Clintons and having such a large entity as their disposal enhances their power considerably.

Right. The Clinton Foundation is bigger than the Presidency. Who knew?

But both Hillary and Bill Clinton don't seem to be very stable people. Hillary has a horrible temper and is evidently contemptuous of those beneath her. Bill Clinton has been the subject of rape accusations and organized, international drug dealing - and Hillary has evidently abetted some of his worst behavior.

After all, when a husband misbehaves it's always his wife's fault.

Yet it is certainly possible that neither Bill nor Hillary are fully aware of the scale of the manipulation in which they are enmeshed, nor its timeline. Are they now part of a rapidly unfolding psyop that has its roots decades ago?

They are card-carrying members of the Globalist Proto-Autocracy and need to be challenged and battled on a number of issues involving foreign policy, food safety, and criminal justice.

A better scenario than the one offered by the bible-thumping Dominionist Proto-Autocracy headed by Trump.

Maybe Pieczenik, Julian Assange and others are indeed true heroes for countering the Clinton's emergent authoritarianism, as they appear to be.

Or maybe they're true scumbags for supporting the candidacy of an emotionally deformed Neo-Nazi.

This is certainly an incredibly admirable and deserved perspective. But there are other interpretations.

Our primary purpose is to analyze elite dominant social themes and that's why we are raising these questions, hypothetical as they may be. Hillary Clinton is an apparent threat to the what's left of the liberties of the USA

How so?

Is she going to deprive millions of people the right to vote with Voter ID Laws which disenfranchise the elderly poor and college kids?

Is she going to restrict polling locations in minority neighborhoods?

Is she going to undo Obama's designation of the internet as a utility, which preserves "net neutrality"?

Is she going to de-regulate the health insurance industry and kick 20 million people off health insurance?

Is she going to put a justice on the Supreme Court who will rule that a woman's reproductive capacity is property of the State?

Will she privatize Social Security and voucherize Medicare -- effectively crippling the two programs most responsible for the senior middle class?

Will she enforce stop and frisk policies in the inner cities?

Attack unions with "right to work" laws?

Round 11 million undocumented workers and deport them en mass?

Will she tear up the Iranian nuke deal and prepare the US to join Israel in an attack on Iran?

Hillary is the threat to American freedoms?

What incredible bullshit...

but there is a possibility, perhaps a slim one, that this new "coup" narrative is not what it seems.

Regardless of the status of the US corporation, democracy, republic the US functions, day-to-day, with a certain expectation of freedom. This is why those on "right" libertarian or conservative are evidently shocked (on videos and in print) when the US government and those behind it take actions that one would not expect to take place in a "republic."

Like allowing black and brown people to vote? The horror!

These are the same traitors who try to restrict voting to only white people as much as possible.

Now we are informed that this sentiment is an animating force in parts of the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, etc. The counter-argument, of course, is that the FBI, CIA and Pentagon have not usually been seen as guardians of "freedom."

Ya think?

The FBI has put hundreds if not thousands of people in jail because of flawed fingerprint and hair analysis that some in the bureau knew to be false all along. To the best of our knowledge, a lot of the damage was never properly addressed.

The CIA is responsible for the deaths, injuries and miserable lives of millions, even billions, around the world because it represses freedom in favor of elite control of countries and their governments.

Constitutionally speaking, the FBI and CIA probably should not exist, let alone be spread around the world. The Pentagon, which recently mislaid $8 trillion, supports CIA covert intel actions with its own more overt military activities.

It is wonderful that people within them are supportive of freedom.

...Mind-boggling. Right wingers only support freedoms for white males.

Period.

But the CIA, FBI, Pentagon, etc., don't actually work for the people in the US. At the top levels, they seem to work for the private banking interests that have installed and organized them and are pursuing a greater globalism that likely includes the destruction of the US.

They also serve the bible-thumping billionaires who want a Kaucasian Khristian Kaliphate to save white folks from The Other.

Today there is considerable conflict between private banking interests and the alternative Net media, and the people it represents. One way to reduce this conflict would be to make it clear to people who value a culture of freedom that the most authoritarian agencies in the US are secretly aligned with them. (See also our skeptical comments regarding the Brexit vote in our "populism vs. globalism articles.")

"People who value a culture of freedom" in this context are the people who think women's organs are State property.

People who think non-whites should have a hard time voting.

Who think the Bible should be taught in public schools.

Who think the US needs to attack Iran asap.

Real freedom lovers, those right wingers.

This seems beyond the pale and ludicrous but these banking interests are both subtle and powerful. One way or another, they evidently control the central banks of the world and thus hundreds of trillions of dollars. They may even have propagated a kind of nuclear myth, as we have pointed out here in the past, that has affected people's sentiments and priorities for decades.

If the ruling elites were hegemonic there would be no "net neutrality," no Iranian nuke deal, no removal of chemical weapons from Syria, no diplomatic opening to Cuba, no restrictions on Wall St. speculation a la Dodd-Frank.

They tend to work through the dominant social themes we analyze because they are absolutely determined that people are to back their globalist plans on a voluntary basis without knowing they are doing so.

There are dueling Proto-Autocracies -- the Globalists and the Dominionists.

I'd rather deal with Globalists, myself.

In the Internet era, these "memes" have begun to founder in critical ways. But those creating them continue to try. They are abetted by millions (and more), who are aligned with them professionally or emotionally some because they don't know any better.

At the very top, everyone else is likely disposable (except for a handful of owners) and apt to be manipulated as necessary.

This is probably an article that many may react to emotionally and even negatively. But we are certainly not trying to support Hillary's campaign, only to point out that in this world not everything is at it seems, especially when it comes to authoritarian agents of the state.

Conclusion: Your first priority is to take care of yourself and your family. Politics, especially today, seems to offer the hope of greater freedom but usually does not. For more on the issues we've raised, please use a search engine to find "TheDailyBell" and "populism versus globalism" (here, here and elsewhere). These issues may be tied to an an even larger propaganda campaign.

Via The Daily Bell

[Peter Lemkin]

Evan McMullin, possible U.S. President?
(image by Evan McMullin)

Well-respected stock-picker Louis Navillier had some interesting things to say about the election in his latest investor's update (emphasis added):

The outcome of the Presidential election is more uncertain now. The possibility of "recounts" in close states is growing more and more likely due to recent events. There's also a strong possibility that Evan McMullin may win Utah, which could deny Clinton and Donald Trump the 270 Electoral College votes necessary to win the election. If that happens, then the House of Representatives would pick the next President.
So the national soap opera may not be over with next Tuesday's vote.

OMG (Oh, My Government!), will it never end??!!
President McMullin, anyone? If he wins even one state, he is theoretically eligible to be picked as a compromise less controversial candidate by the House. If Hillary is recommended for indictment by the FBI a few weeks from now, and Trump is just seen as impossible to deal with even by his own party - and expect the Trump accusations to fly if there's any kind of close contest - beleaguered House representatives might see McMullin as a no-drama choice.

ABC news agrees (with video) and adds:

But anti-Trump conservative independent Evan McMullin has thrown a curveball into the 2016 election, with the possibility that his winning even just one state could throw the presidential race into chaos and extend the election season into January.The former CIA agent's longshot White House odds rest on attracting the support of Mormon voters in Utah, who have been reluctant to throw their support behind Trump.




McMullin's strategy is to block both Trump and Clinton from hitting the 270 electoral vote threshold to win, which would send the tiebreaker election to the House of Representatives. An election hasn't been decided by the House since 1824.
Still, this path is very unlikely as it would require a precise set of circumstances. Utah has only six electoral votes -- so a surprise win there wouldn't guarantee that Clinton or Trump don't hit 270 anyway. And a third-party candidate hasn't won electoral votes since 1968.

At one point, this was the scenario for a win by Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, but Johnson's poll numbers have slipped to 5% in the latest Real Clear Politics match-up (Green Party Jill Stein's are around 3%) and he is not expected to win in any state. Without at least one electoral college delegate, Johnson can't be considered by the House if neither major party candidate gets the required 270 electoral college delegates. Of course, a delegate could defy the will of the voters and nominate Johnson, but in some states such a vote would be voided, though this would mean an even lower count for the two major nominees. And Johnson is seen as too ignorant by many based on his recent flubs to questions about Aleppo and which national leader he admires. Johnson's star is fading fast, but not so McMullin who appeals to his fellow Mormons in the state dominated by them.
Progressives will be disappointed in conservative McMullin's positions. He is pro-life and vows to appoint justices to the Supreme Court that will overturn Roe v. Wade. He seeks to enable "competition" in Medicare (read: privatize). He wants to boost military responsiveness, though not necessarily their budget, and favors cost-cutting over new spending. National security is the first item on his website's list of issues. He wants to deregulate and lower taxes, presumably mostly on the rich who pay the most.
Although his running mate, Mindy Finn, is a woman, he can hardly be called a feminist. However, he will be a big relief to woman-bashing, misogynist Donald Trump, even to Republicans. It's conceivable, however, that in a House floor fight, Democrats may only be persuaded to vote for McMullin if they are allowed to substitute moderate Tim Kaine in the V.P. slot. This may be less likely if disgruntled pro-Hillary supporters see their opportunity for a woman president being taken away with no realistic possibility for at least another 4 years. They may demand a "heartbeat away" in exchange for a "lost historic opportunity" even if that replacing heart beats in a conservative chest. And McMullin is wasting no time in c alling out Trump for his sexism, boosting his chances in Utah.
The election: anything can happen! Aren't you proud to be an American?
*** UPDATE ***
A careful reader pointed out to me that it is actually the Senate who picks the Vice President if the V.P. choice does not have the required majority - 270 electoral votes in this case too. The Senate is also Republican held, but not so heavily, and it includes the Democrat current V.P. in case of a tie. So it may be more likely that V.P. designee Tim Kaine might get chosen in that case.

[Magda Hassan]

So it may be more likely that V.P. designee Tim Kaine might get chosen in that case.

Tim Kaine's policy positions are very reactionary and neo-con. He is just more of the same and no solution. Both Pence and Kaine are dreadful.

[Peter Lemkin]

So it may be more likely that V.P. designee Tim Kaine might get chosen in that case.

Tim Kaine's policy positions are very reactionary and neo-con. He is just more of the same and no solution. Both Pence and Kaine are dreadful.

ALL combinations and permutations are HORRIBLE. Nothing good or even passable can or will come out of this 'election'. The problem is at the 'front end' where good people with a variety of political viewpoints much wider than the 'A through B' spread of the Dumbocraps & Repugnacans simply can not run for high offices in a manner where they can debate the Unitary American Business-As-Usual Party, be seen in the media and not have dirty tricks or even arrests when they try to debate perpetrated upon them. The entire system stinks. The US Ship of State has long been sinking, but now with this election I think it is finally going down for the last time.

[David Guyatt]

So it may be more likely that V.P. designee Tim Kaine might get chosen in that case.

Tim Kaine's policy positions are very reactionary and neo-con. He is just more of the same and no solution. Both Pence and Kaine are dreadful.

ALL combinations and permutations are HORRIBLE. Nothing good or even passable can or will come out of this 'election'. The problem is at the 'front end' where good people with a variety of political viewpoints much wider than the 'A through B' spread of the Dumbocraps & Repugnacans simply can not run for high offices in a manner where they can debate the Unitary American Business-As-Usual Party, be seen in the media and not have dirty tricks or even arrests when they try to debate perpetrated upon them. The entire system stinks. The US Ship of State has long been sinking, but now with this election I think it is finally going down for the last time.

Three cheers and good riddance, I say.

[David Guyatt]

Is it possible the recent counter coup announced by Steve Pieczenik, a former official in numerous Republican administrations, is actually part of a much larger dominant social theme designed to reinforce positive perceptions regarding the most secretive and powerful government agencies?

Global Research, one of the very best alternative websites, does us the favor of providing "a video presentation by Dr. Steve Pieczenik, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State." It has also provided us with a transcript of Pieczenik's remarks.

Pieczenik "has served as foreign policy expert in several US administrations including Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush."
More:

[FONT=&amp]The analysis and focus presented below must be taken very seriously. It sheds light on the ongoing political crisis in the US and the opposition which is developing from within the US intelligence community against the Clinton crime cabal.
[/FONT]
According to Pieczenik, "Hillary and Bill Clinton are attempting a takeover of the United States and will stop at nothing. A coup d'état of this magnitude has never been affected in such a subtly calculated way."

Pieczenik goes on to explain how the FBI, CIA, Pentagon and other official military-industrial agencies have gotten together silently to fight the silent "coup" of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Basically the argument is that "pay-to-play" has been created by the Clinton Foundation, which is apparently under substantive investigation.

Hillary and Bill would use their contacts and influence to push the US government into taking action in ways which enhanced the interests and profits of certain countries and individuals if they contributed to the Clinton Foundation.
The Foundation is evidently a government-in-waiting for the Clintons and having such a large entity as their disposal enhances their power considerably.

But both Hillary and Bill Clinton don't seem to be very stable people. Hillary has a horrible temper and is evidently contemptuous of those beneath her. Bill Clinton has been the subject of rape accusations and organized, international drug dealing - and Hillary has evidently abetted some of his worst behavior.

Yet it is certainly possible that neither Bill nor Hillary are fully aware of the scale of the manipulation in which they are enmeshed, nor its timeline. Are they now part of a rapidly unfolding psyop that has its roots decades ago?

Maybe Pieczenik, Julian Assange and others are indeed true heroes for countering the Clinton's emergent authoritarianism, as they appear to be. This is certainly an incredibly admirable and deserved perspective. But there are other interpretations.

Our primary purpose is to analyze elite dominant social themes and that's why we are raising these questions, hypothetical as they may be. Hillary Clinton is an apparent threat to the what's left of the liberties of the USA but there is a possibility, perhaps a slim one, that this new "coup" narrative is not what it seems.

Regardless of the status of the US corporation, democracy, republic the US functions, day-to-day, with a certain expectation of freedom. This is why those on "right" libertarian or conservative are evidently shocked (on videos and in print) when the US government and those behind it take actions that one would not expect to take place in a "republic."

Now we are informed that this sentiment is an animating force in parts of the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, etc. The counter-argument, of course, is that the FBI, CIA and Pentagon have not usually been seen as guardians of "freedom."

The FBI has put hundreds if not thousands of people in jail because of flawed fingerprint and hair analysis that some in the bureau knew to be false all along. To the best of our knowledge, a lot of the damage was never properly addressed.

The CIA is responsible for the deaths, injuries and miserable lives of millions, even billions, around the world because it represses freedom in favor of elite control of countries and their governments.

Constitutionally speaking, the FBI and CIA probably should not exist, let alone be spread around the world. The Pentagon, which recently mislaid $8 trillion, supports CIA covert intel actions with its own more overt military activities.

It is wonderful that people within them are supportive of freedom. But the CIA, FBI, Pentagon, etc., don't actually work for the people in the US. At the top levels, they seem to work for the private banking interests that have installed and organized them and are pursuing a greater globalism that likely includes the destruction of the US.

Today there is considerable conflict between private banking interests and the alternative Net media, and the people it represents. One way to reduce this conflict would be to make it clear to people who value a culture of freedom that the most authoritarian agencies in the US are secretly aligned with them. (See also our skeptical comments regarding the Brexit vote in our "populism vs. globalism articles.")

This seems beyond the pale and ludicrous but these banking interests are both subtle and powerful. One way or another, they evidently control the central banks of the world and thus hundreds of trillions of dollars. They may even have propagated a kind of nuclear myth, as we have pointed out here in the past, that has affected people's sentiments and priorities for decades.

They tend to work through the dominant social themes we analyze because they are absolutely determined that people are to back their globalist plans on a voluntary basis without knowing they are doing so.

In the Internet era, these "memes" have begun to founder in critical ways. But those creating them continue to try. They are abetted by millions (and more), who are aligned with them professionally or emotionally some because they don't know any better.

At the very top, everyone else is likely disposable (except for a handful of owners) and apt to be manipulated as necessary.

This is probably an article that many may react to emotionally and even negatively. But we are certainly not trying to support Hillary's campaign, only to point out that in this world not everything is at it seems, especially when it comes to authoritarian agents of the state.

Conclusion: Your first priority is to take care of yourself and your family. Politics, especially today, seems to offer the hope of greater freedom but usually does not. For more on the issues we've raised, please use a search engine to find "TheDailyBell" and "populism versus globalism" (here, here and elsewhere). These issues may be tied to an an even larger propaganda campaign.

Via The Daily Bell

Forgive me for going off the reserve on this one, but one of the linked "here's" was an opinion piece about Brexit.

I found that article rather typical in its conclusions and written from a typically myopic liberal position, namely the "Europe good, Brexit bad" equation. This is the usual conclusion bleated out across the media the world over.

For me, and I suspect for a great many Brits, voting for Brexit was a requirement simply because the European Union was, and is, a US military and corporate intrusion into the heart of Europe.

It was put there beginning in the 1950's to support US hegemony during the cold war and remains there to further US financial, economic and military interests today.

Let an example suffice:

Jean-Claude Juncker, today's President of the EU, likes to gets royally pissed at lunch and then meets dignitaries in a back-slapping, idiotic grin cum alcoholic daze. He probably learned this trait as the former prime minister of Luxembourg when he was forced to resign for his involvement in a massive scandal when it was publicly discovered that Luxembourg's tiny spy agency and military were involved in a series of bombings on behalf of NATO's Operation Gladio (HERE).

Gladio was embedded Europe wide with secret units in every European nation. All were run from the NATO headquarters in Brussels, Belgium (and CIA HQ in Langley, Virginia) - a nation that is now infamous for the deeply toxic Dutroux paedophile case --- that featured at least one Gladio agent in its awful mixture of child murder, rape, molestation and the most hideous and gratuitous torture imaginable.

Okay, 'nuff said. Rant over.

[David Guyatt]

So it may be more likely that V.P. designee Tim Kaine might get chosen in that case.

Tim Kaine's policy positions are very reactionary and neo-con. He is just more of the same and no solution. Both Pence and Kaine are dreadful.

And therefore precisely the sort of VP candidates the elite would insist on having in the wings in case things go wrong.

The fixed roulette wheel just keeps spinning...

[Lauren Johnson]

Forgive me for going off the reserve on this one, but one of the linked "here's" was an opinion piece about Brexit.

This site is nuts. There's another link that says the US never dropped atom bombs in Japan. The whole nuclear thing is yet another hoax.

[Cliff Varnell]

So it may be more likely that V.P. designee Tim Kaine might get chosen in that case.

Tim Kaine's policy positions are very reactionary and neo-con. He is just more of the same and no solution. Both Pence and Kaine are dreadful.

ALL combinations and permutations are HORRIBLE. Nothing good or even passable can or will come out of this 'election'. The problem is at the 'front end' where good people with a variety of political viewpoints much wider than the 'A through B' spread of the Dumbocraps & Repugnacans simply can not run for high offices in a manner where they can debate the Unitary American Business-As-Usual Party, be seen in the media and not have dirty tricks or even arrests when they try to debate perpetrated upon them. The entire system stinks. The US Ship of State has long been sinking, but now with this election I think it is finally going down for the last time.

Three cheers and good riddance, I say.

Replaced by what?

An overtly fascist autocracy?

Folks seem to think the US of A couldn't behave worse on the world stage than it already does.

Dangerous naivety.