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Why the second floor lunch room encounter could not have happened
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Here is Barker's full interview, " we immediately turned around and went up the stairs."

I don't understand what the argument is all about, bottom line is, Baker after hearing the second shot says he entered the TSBD. They couldn't get the service elevator to work, then after hearing the third shot he turned and immediately went up the stairs to the second floor, there's no way in hell Oswald could beat Baker running down the sixth floor to the sceond and not be suspicious of just shooting at the president no one is that good not to show any signs of just firing at the president.

In the Zfilm it shows sometime between the second and third shot, so how others come up with those shots happening simultaneously is beyond me.

https://youtu.be/Yg0tnlUE1BU

The DPD Motorcycle Officer Marion Baker interview referred to was posted by someone named "LoneGunman", and like many other video's posted by said "LoneGunman", observation comments have been dis-allowed. And, "LoneGunman" indicated that DPD Officer M Baker is a liar, and the LHO lunchroom encounter did not happen, so "LoneGuman" comments, but does not allow observers to do the same.

Larry
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I think "LoneGunman" is Bart Kamp Larry.



In any case Roy Truly went home that night and told his wife of the lunchroom encounter.


No matter what anyone tells you the motive for this challenging of the lunchroom encounter is to confirm Murphy's Prayer Man theory and place Oswald on the front steps just like Cinque and Fetzer.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:I think "LoneGunman" is Bart Kamp, Larry.



In any case Roy Truly went home that night and told his wife of the lunchroom encounter.


No matter what anyone tells you the motive for this challenging of the lunchroom encounter is to confirm Murphy's Prayer Man theory and place Oswald on the front steps just like Cinque and Fetzer.

I do wonder, as I wander, why "LooneGunman" does not allow comments, pray tell?

Larry
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LR Trotter Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Here is Barker's full interview, " we immediately turned around and went up the stairs."

I don't understand what the argument is all about, bottom line is, Baker after hearing the second shot says he entered the TSBD. They couldn't get the service elevator to work, then after hearing the third shot he turned and immediately went up the stairs to the second floor, there's no way in hell Oswald could beat Baker running down the sixth floor to the sceond and not be suspicious of just shooting at the president no one is that good not to show any signs of just firing at the president.

In the Zfilm it shows sometime between the second and third shot, so how others come up with those shots happening simultaneously is beyond me.

https://youtu.be/Yg0tnlUE1BU

The DPD Motorcycle Officer Marion Baker interview referred to was posted by someone named "LoneGunman", and like many other video's posted by said "LoneGunman", observation comments have been dis-allowed. And, "LoneGunman" indicated that DPD Officer M Baker is a liar, and the LHO lunchroom encounter did not happen, so "LoneGuman" comments, but does not allow observers to do the same.

He can rant and rave, cry, pout, jump up and down, bottom line is, what proof does he have the second floor encounter never happened, if he's going to give nothing but his theories I can go to any forum and read theories all day long, are there any real smart attorneys on this board? Ask them if there's a huge difference between theories, circumstantial evidence and evidence. I will accept the latter two.
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Like much of the evidence, or circumstantial evidence I've already presented.

http://study.com/academy/lesson/circumst...mples.html
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Kamp's sole purpose is to bend the evidence towards Prayer Man. It is as amazing to me that Kamp has cowed otherwise intelligent people into this bullshit as it is that Ralph Cinque has many intelligent members of the assassination research community as members on his crank Doorway Man website.


The Assassination research community is currently being hijacked by these Murphy zealots and better analysts are being shunned for very childish reasons.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Kamp's sole purpose is to bend the evidence towards Prayer Man. It is as amazing to me that Kamp has cowed otherwise intelligent people into this bullshit as it is that Ralph Cinque has many intelligent members of the assassination research community as members on his crank Doorway Man website.


The Assassination research community is currently being hijacked by these Murphy zealots and better analysts are being shunned for very childish reasons.

Agreed!
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Ray Mitcham is over on the Education Forum saying Baker's 1st day affidavit eliminates the lunchroom encounter. However he never mentions or responds to Truly's telling his wife of the lunchroom encounter that evening. The ROKC zealots just ignore evidence that counters their bs. While calling my efforts "infesting" DiEugenio never once responded to my mention of Truly confirming the lunchroom encounter the night it happened to his wife or how it affects the ROKC 'research' he credits.

Ray is a fool yet he is allowed to post regressive crap freely.
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Anti-lunchroom encounter posters are getting away with saying "Out Front With Shelley" conclusively means Oswald was out front during the shooting. These people are liars because they damned well know the context of Fritz's notes places Oswald on the 1st or 2nd floor lunchroom during the shots. The same place Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald minutes earlier.
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For the record, a couple of posters mentioned by Albert is another good reason, at least for me, to not join the EF. I try to maintain politeness, but their postings, unfortunately among others as well, would make that said politeness very unlikely maintained. The ganging up on BillMiller is troubling, and difficult to ignore, but I cannot justify participating among certain posters.
Hopefully, being exposed to a "forum firing squad", and learning some "forum cold hard facts of life" has taught some usable lessons.

Larry
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