The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair
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The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair
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29-03-2018, 10:07 AM
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge. Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
29-03-2018, 10:08 AM
It was a bad batch.....or had special delayed action properties....or wasn't at the home on the doorknob...I find it strange that both of them would have been affected...usually when two people leave a house, only one closes the door....and the length of time it took is just too long...not to mention that even the first symptoms would not make them want to sit and eat a meal - but get medical help FAST. The story doesn't fit. Why would the policeman be at their home?! Did he have dinner with them and thus was available to 'rescue' them from the bench as we were led to believe - though affected himself. We have entered Alice in Wonderland territory with the latest explanations..... And how does one square all the different versions - poison at the restaurant - poison a power in the car ventilation - poison on the door knob or in the home; not to mention the shifting position and 'role' of the policeman.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn "If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass 
29-03-2018, 04:25 PM
David Guyatt Wrote:Only yesterday I pointed out a significant inconsistency with the Skripal story by posting a Daily Telegraph story of 9th March 2018 --- 20 days ago, one day short of 3 weeks - that the Novichok attack took place at the Skripal's home (see above). More balls ups than at a Central Office Christmas bash. What is to be done? I know - promotions all round!
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"
Joseph Fouche
30-03-2018, 10:34 AM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:It was a bad batch.....or had special delayed action properties....or wasn't at the home on the doorknob...I find it strange that both of them would have been affected...usually when two people leave a house, only one closes the door....and the length of time it took is just too long...not to mention that even the first symptoms would not make them want to sit and eat a meal - but get medical help FAST. The story doesn't fit. Why would the policeman be at their home?! Did he have dinner with them and thus was available to 'rescue' them from the bench as we were led to believe - though affected himself. We have entered Alice in Wonderland territory with the latest explanations..... And how does one square all the different versions - poison at the restaurant - poison a power in the car ventilation - poison on the door knob or in the home; not to mention the shifting position and 'role' of the policeman. My precise thoughts too Pete, re contact with the door handle. It doesn't make sense. Ditto the length of time. My best guess is that it happened elsewhere. The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge. Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
30-03-2018, 10:39 AM
Btw, we learn this morning on Sky News (but nowhere else that I can find - tv or print) but in passing only, that the offending front door has now been boarded up, possibly removed. A video-copter flew over the front of the house and showed large parts of the property had been boarded over, in fact, including the front garden.
Is anyone surprised? Not me, for one. The way the details on this story are being released by the authorities to an uncritical and compliant media screams agenda management not criminal investigation. The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge. Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
30-03-2018, 10:49 AM
David Guyatt Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:It was a bad batch.....or had special delayed action properties....or wasn't at the home on the doorknob...I find it strange that both of them would have been affected...usually when two people leave a house, only one closes the door....and the length of time it took is just too long...not to mention that even the first symptoms would not make them want to sit and eat a meal - but get medical help FAST. The story doesn't fit. Why would the policeman be at their home?! Did he have dinner with them and thus was available to 'rescue' them from the bench as we were led to believe - though affected himself. We have entered Alice in Wonderland territory with the latest explanations..... And how does one square all the different versions - poison at the restaurant - poison a power in the car ventilation - poison on the door knob or in the home; not to mention the shifting position and 'role' of the policeman. Well, if they did get some kind of nerve poison and they were found under its effects on the bench, one can be sure that they contacted the agent NOT LONG BEFORE they got to the bench, if not on the bench they contacted it. I have not seen a timeline presented - has anyone else? So, I'd say as they were or just before leaving the restaurant; or between the restaurant and the bench [which I believe is not far from the restaurant]. Usually in such 'capers' one sees a timeline and a diagram of their movements from place to place - none are being provided and I find that suspicious - along with all the variations in events, location of said nerve agent, location of policeman, etc. Now they are reporting that his daughter is getting well and even talking to hospital staff......that will be one for the bio-warfare experts to write about. Few recover normal function after exposure to such agents. Nothing fits here, and the media is not doing its work to point this out....they are simply repeating and printing what 'anonymous officials' are telling them.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn "If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
30-03-2018, 11:26 AM
31-03-2018, 06:08 AM
Another very interesting post on Novichok agents, who built them and who has them - or the ability to create them:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/rus...clean.html
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn "If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
31-03-2018, 06:27 AM
(This post was last modified: 31-03-2018, 06:47 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Some 'great' [sic] myth making on the 'most progressive' of the US MSM outlets. [but the best bits are British interviews]. They have a timeline and show [if a bit quickly] the path from home to park bench the Skripals took. They even question and put to rest the idea that someone else could have made a 'Russian' nerve agent. But given the fact that Skripal's daughter is getting better, one has to wonder if any nerve agent was involved at all.... look for Friday's [31st] Rachel Maddow Show http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn "If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
31-03-2018, 10:48 AM
Paul Rigby Wrote:More balls ups than at a Central Office Christmas bash. What is to be done? Excellent news - promotion means pay rises. I'm off to the pub to celebrate! The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge. Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14 |
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