The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair

[Peter Lemkin]

No one doubts that the Novichok type nerve agents [a whole class of them] were first developed in Russia....but once developed and produced (and now that there are even books out with the formulas of them listed exactly ) many could have them or make them. Their synthesis is quite easy for any PhD in Chemistry - however doing so and living to tell about it takes government biowarfare facilities, which many countries have. However, as the policeman and the daughter have 'recovered' from whatever it was - it almost could NOT have been a Novichok agent anyway....so this is now an absurdity wrapped in an impossibility or vice-versa.

It is like saying that because someone was killed by gunpowder that 'the Chinese did it', because they invented it several hundred years ago.

What new lies will they invent to cover up the current ones? Stay tuned - they should be good enough for Monty Python.

I don't see the MSM anywhere holding them accountable very much....the new 'Cold War' suits them just fine.

[David Guyatt]

Clean-up under way. The UK Foreign Office has now deleted it's Tweet that accused Russia of having produced the class of Novichok's used in the attack.

The liars May and Bojo are scuttling and in hiding.

From Craig Murray

The Poison in our Body Politic


4 Apr, 2018


As Porton Down now confirm, here is a straightforward lie from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, a lie that British diplomats around the world have been promoting to foreign governments.




The key point is that the FCO knew it was lying. This was published six days after I was told by an FCO source, and published, that Porton Down scientists were refusing to say the substance came from Russia. The FCO knew this.


I have now received confirmation from a well placed FCO source that Porton Down scientists are not able to identify the nerve agent as being of Russian manufacture, and have been resentful of the pressure being placed on them to do so. Porton Down would only sign up to the formulation "of a type developed by Russia" after a rather difficult meeting where this was agreed as a compromise formulation. 16 March 2018
There has to be some kind of redress for this. If we accept that we live in a society where the public bodies that are supposed to serve us, can lie to us and to the world in order specifically to heat up a cold war, then the future is bleak. This is a direct consequence of the lack of suitable punishment for those involved in the crime of creating lies to wage aggressive war on Iraq, particularly Tony Blair, Richard Dearlove and John Scarlett. As they are not in jail, Boris is confident he will not be either.


We have learned nothing from the Iraq War experience, and what is most disheartening is that officials within the FCO and security services still do not see it as their job to prevent lies rather than to propagate them when asked by a Minister.


Here is a screenshot of a FCO video showing Laurie Bristow, British Ambassador to Russia, in Moscow telling outright lies to gathered diplomats at a briefing there. The subtitle is accurate.


I have long held the opinion that Bristow is a deeply repulsive individual with no morals or scruples. When I was sacked as British Ambassador to Tashkent for criticising Uzbekistan's human rights record and objecting to MI6 use of intelligence from the Uzbek torture chambers, Bristow went to Tashkent after my removal to assure the Uzbeks that the UK had no interest in human rights and wished to continue "intelligence cooperation". That somebody like Bristow can become one of Britain's most senior Ambassadors says all you need to know about the United Kingdom today.

[David Guyatt]

A decent article from Moon of Alabama minutely detailing the latest British government efforts to spin the disasterous claims that Russia produced the Novichol that was used on the Skripal's.

April 04, 2018
"It's The Cover-Up" - UK Foreign Office Deletes Tweet, Posts False Transcript, Issues New Lies


It's Not The Crime, It's The Cover-Up:


When a scandal breaks, the discovery of an attempt to cover up is often regarded as even more reprehensible than the original deeds.
The British government is trying to cover-up the lies it made with its false allegations against Russia. The cover-up necessitates new lies some of which we expose below.


Yesterday the head of the British chemical weapon laboratory in Porton Down stated that the laboratory can not establish that the poison used in the alleged 'Novichok' attack in Salisbury was produced by Russia. This was a severe blow to the British government allegations of Russian involvement in the poisoning of Sergej and Yulia Skripal.


Now the British government tries to hide that it said that the poison used in the Salisbury was 'produced in Russia' and that Porton down had proved that to be the case. The government aligned media are helping to stuff the government lies down the memory hole.


We all need to make sure that the new lies get exposed and that the attempts to change the record fail.


Yesterday the British Foreign Office deleted this from its Twitter account:




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The March 22 tweet was part of a now interrupted thread which summarized a briefing on the UK government's response to the Salisbury incident given by the British Ambassador to Russia, Dr Laurie Bristow, to the international diplomatic community in Moscow.


After the silent scrubbing of the record was publicly questioned the Foreign Office admitted that it deleted the tweet:


After it emerged on Wednesday that the tweet had been deleted, the Foreign Office said the post was removed because it "did not accurately report" the words of Laurie Bristow, the UK's ambassador to Russia, which the tweet was supposed to be quoting.
Hmm - fool me once ...


All the tweets in the thread used quotation marks, but none was a literal reproduction of the ambassador's briefing. Only one of the tweets was deleted. A look at the transcript and video of the briefing shows that all the tweets, including the deleted one, "accurately reported" the speech. The cover-up of the false statement the ambassador made thus includes at least one new lie.


The original tweet said "Analysis by world-leading experts at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down made clear that this was a military-grade Novichok nerve agent produced in Russia. .."


The transcript of the briefing in Moscow - "exactly as it was delivered" - is (still) available at the Foreign Office website.





The ambassador, reading from a prepared script, recapitulates the event and, according to the posted transcript, then says:


Four days later the analysts at Porton Down, the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory in the UK, established and made clear that this was a military-grade chemical weapon. One of the Novichok series; a nerve agent as I said produced in Russia. Porton Down is an Organisation for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons accredited and designated laboratory.
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First, there is no doubt that the weapon used in the attack was the military-grade nerve agent from the Novichok series. This has been confirmed by specialists, our specialists. An Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons mission is in the UK now to independently confirm this analysis.
There is also no doubt that Novichok was produced in Russia by the Russian state.


The last line in the -"exactly as it was delivered" - transcript is false. Here is my transcription from a short Foreign Office video of the briefing (saved copy) which includes the uncut passage of the last two paragraphs quoted above:


... there is no doubt that the weapon used in the attack was the military-grade nerve agent from the Novichok series. This has been confirmed by specialists, our specialists. On Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons mission is in the UK now to independently confirm this analysis.
There is also no doubt that the Novichok was produced in Russia by the Russian state.


The written "exactly as it was delivered" transcript of the briefing says "... that Novichok was produced ...". At 0:20 in the video I clearly hear the ambassador saying "... that the Novichok was produced ...". A tiny but very important difference.


The person who put the official captions on the official Foreign Office video agrees with what I hear and transcribed.




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The ambassador referred to "the Novichok", the Novichok he specifically mentioned earlier in the speech. The Novichok that he said had been detected by Porton Down. The transcript on the Foreign Office website leaves out the definite article "the". It makes it look as if the ambassador referred to some unspecified batch of the substance.


The deleted tweet was a faithful rendition of what the ambassador said, it "accurately reported" it. The transcript the Foreign office posted on its website is false. The ambassador clearly accused Russia of having produced the very batch that Porton Down analyzed.


Three days earlier Bristow's boss, Foreign Minister Boris Johnson, made the same false claim (vid at 5:32) in an interview with DW.


Porton Down has now said that it made no such claim. The ambassador's claim was false. The Foreign Office attempt to cover this up by deleting its tweet and by posting a not-so-exact transcript only amplifies the falsehood of the original claims.


The briefing continued to emphasize the "produced in Russia" meme. The phrase occurs four times.


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Russia's claims that Novichok could have been produced elsewhere have no credibility. We have no information to indicate that this agent could have been produced anywhere else except in Russia. So we have no doubt that the nerve agent was produced in Russia.
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So the fact that the Novichok was produced in Russia, the fact that Russia has a history of state-sponsored assassinations, and the fact that Russia has responded with the usual playbook of disinformation and denial left us with no choice but to conclude that this amounts to an unlawful use of force by the Russian state against the United Kingdom.
The Foreign Office may want to claim that all the above uses of "produced in Russia" were only references to decades old research and development in the Soviet Union, not to the "Skripal" case. The highlighted details shows that this is not the case. Any listener to the briefing surely got the impression that the UK ambassador was talking about the specific batch analysed by Porton Down.


It highlighted paragraph of Ambassador Bristow's briefing includes several other lies. 'Novichok' agents can and have been produced in other countries than Russia.


In 2016 five nerve agents of the 'Novichok' series were synthesized by Iranian scientists in cooperation with the OPCW. Details of their production process were published. In 1998 the US Army's Edgewood Chemical and Biological Center produced and catalogued 'Novichok' agents. It added the data for the substances to the National Institute of Standards and Technology Mass Spectral Library. The data was later removed and U.S. diplomats were ordered to suppress all international discussion about 'Novichok' agents.


The U.S. military chemical weapon laboratories work in close cooperation with Porton Down. Porton Down continues to receive tens of millions of U.S. military research money for its chemical weapon experiments including tests on animals. The UK government surely knew that 'Novichok' agents can and have been produced by other actors than Russia.


British and U.S. media aligned with the ongoing anti-Russia campaign now downplay the earlier claims of the British government.


BBC Radio 4 news at 6:31am today made this comical effort:


"... Russia requested the meeting to address the UK government's suggestion that it was behind the poisoning ..."
The British government did not make a mere "suggestion". Its ambassador and other officials stated outright that Russia was the culprit:


"... the fact that the Novichok was produced in Russia .. left us with no choice but to conclude... "
The New York Times today also uses the "suggestion" wording (one wonders who 'suggested' that):


The British authorities have blamed Russia for the March 4 poisoning, with Foreign Minister Boris Johnson suggesting it was "overwhelmingly likely" that President Vladimir V. Putin had ordered the attack.
On March 16, when the NYT first wrote about Johnson's claims against Russia, it surely did not convey that they were only 'suggestive':


Mr. Johnson's remarks were a significant escalation in the dispute between London and Moscow, directly linking the Russian leader to the poisoning of Sergei V. Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, in the English city of Salisbury.
The British Prime Minster herself went way further than just 'suggesting' that Russia was guilty:


[T]he Government have concluded that it is highly likely that Russia was responsible for the act against Sergei and Yulia Skripal.
Based on that 'conclusion' the British government threw out 23 Russian diplomats from their embassy in London. There was nothing 'suggestive' with that.


Off-Guardian points out that another tactic to divert from the earlier false claims is to now declare Russia guilty of not cooperating with the investigation:


The UK's flagrant hysteria of the last weeks, the war cries and spittle-flecked abuse is all being airbrushed away and being replaced with the idea the UK simply requested Russian co-operation and Russia refused preferring to make nasty insinuations instead.
To claim that Russia did not cooperate is another lie told to cover up for the now debunked ones. The Chemical Weapons Convention, which Britain and Russia have signed, dictates the procedures that must be taken when chemical weapon allegations are made. They foresee the involvement of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).


It was the British government that rejected the involvement of the OPCW in the investigation. It only agreed to do so after Russia insisted on it:


[Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov] added that a case of alleged use of chemical weapons should be handled through the proper channel, being the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) of which both Russia and Britain are members.
"As soon as the rumors came up that the poisoning of Skripal involved a Russia-produced agent, which almost the entire English leadership has been fanning up, we sent an official request for access to this compound so that our experts could test it in accordance with the Chemical Weapons Convention [CWC]," Lavrov said. So far the request has been ignored by the British side, he added.


The request from the British government to the OPCW was sent on March 14, ten days after the incident happened, two days after the Prime Minister made her "highly likely" claims against Russia and one day after Lavrov publicly insisted on OPCW involvement.


It is obviously the British government which at first rejected OPCW involvement and not the Kremlin.


The OPCW is by statute a technical agency, not a court. It will release a technical assessment of the involved agent and not a judgment on responsibility or guilt.


The attempted cover-up by the Foreign Office of the lies the British government spread about the case has already failed. To play down the original strong claims against Russia as mere 'suggestions' is comical. Allegations that Russia was or is holding up a serious international investigation are also false. It was Britain which at first rejected the CWC and OPCW involvement.


The fact that the British government even makes these attempts must be seen as acknowledgement that it has no case and lied in it its official statements to the global public. It now covers its trail with more lies.


What else is the British government lying about?

[David Guyatt]

No one doubts that the Novichok type nerve agents [a whole class of them] were first developed in Russia....but once developed and produced (and now that there are even books out with the formulas of them listed exactly ) many could have them or make them. Their synthesis is quite easy for any PhD in Chemistry - however doing so and living to tell about it takes government biowarfare facilities, which many countries have. However, as the policeman and the daughter have 'recovered' from whatever it was - it almost could NOT have been a Novichok agent anyway....so this is now an absurdity wrapped in an impossibility or vice-versa.

It is like saying that because someone was killed by gunpowder that 'the Chinese did it', because they invented it several hundred years ago.

What new lies will they invent to cover up the current ones? Stay tuned - they should be good enough for Monty Python.

I don't see the MSM anywhere holding them accountable very much....the new 'Cold War' suits them just fine.

Well, the miracles keep on happening. There is no known antidote to Novichok but in the Salisbury case both the cop and Yulia have fully recovered. Yulia is expecting to leave hospital soon and it looks like her father, Sergei, is recovering too.

According to Yulia's telephone conversation with her cousin, Victoria, in Russia, when asked about her Papa she replied saying: "Everyone is getting better", Yulia says (HERE). "Everything thing is normal, he [Papa/Sergei] is resting now, sleeping, everyone's health is normal, no irreversible thing happened".

[David Guyatt]

Craig Murray's last post below.

I will say that listening to television news on this story I almost want to vomit and the idiocy and thoughtless adherence of the group-think of the talking heads and presenters. None adhere in the slightest to the basic principals of journalism.

It's awful to behold how far British journalism has now fallen.

Knobs and Knockers

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5 Apr, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig

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What is left of the government's definitive identification of Russia as the culprit in the Salisbury attack? It is a simple truth that Russia is not the only state that could have made the nerve agent: dozens of them could. It could also have been made by many non-state actors.
Motorola sales agent Gary Aitkenhead inexplicably since January, Chief Executive of Porton Down chemical weapons establishment said in his Sky interview that "probably" only a state actor could create the nerve agent. That is to admit the possibility that a non state actor could. David Collum, Professor of Organo-Chemistry at Cornell University, infinitely more qualified than a Motorola salesman, has stated that his senior students could do it. Professor Collum tweeted me this morning.

The key point in his tweet is, of course "if asked". The state and corporate media has not asked Prof. Collum nor any of the Professors of Organic Chemistry in the UK. There simply is no basic investigative journalism happening around this case.
So given that the weapon itself is not firm evidence it was Russia that did it, what is Boris Johnson's evidence? It turns out that the British government's evidence is no more than the technique of smearing nerve agent on the door handle. All of the UK media have been briefed by "security sources" that the UK has a copy of a secret Russian assassin training manual detailing how to put nerve agent on door handles, and that given the nerve agent was found on the Skripals door handle, this is the clinching evidence which convinced NATO allies of Russia's guilt.
As the Daily Mirror reported in direct quotes of the "security source"

"It amounts to Russia's tradecraft manual on applying poison to door handles. It's the smoking gun. It is strong proof that in the last ten years Russia has researched methods to apply poisons, including by using door handles. The significant detail is that these were the facts that helped persuade allies it could only be Russia that did this."

Precisely the same government briefing is published by the Daily Mail in a bigger splash here, and reflected in numerous other mainstream propaganda outlets.
Two questions arise. How credible is the British government's possession of a Russian secret training manual for using novichok agents, and how credible is it that the Skripals were poisoned by their doorknob.
To take the second question first, I see major problems with the notion that the Skripals were poisoned by their doorknob.
The first is this. After what Dame Sally Davis, Chief Medical officer for England, called "rigorous scientific analysis" of the substance used on the Skripals, the government advised those who may have been in contact to wash their clothes and wipe surfaces with warm water and wet wipes. Suspect locations were hosed down by the fire brigade.
But if the substance was in a form that could be washed away, why was it placed on an external door knob? It was in point of fact raining heavily in Salisbury that day, and indeed had been for some time.
Can somebody explain to me the scenario in which two people both touch the exterior door handle in exiting and closing the door? And if it transferred from one to the other, why did it not also transfer to the doctor who gave extensive aid that brought her in close bodily contact, including with fluids?
The second problem is that the Novichok family of nerve agents are instant acting. There is no such thing as a delayed reaction nerve agent. Remember we have been specifically told by Theresa May that this nerve agent is up to ten times more powerful than VX, the Porton Down developed nerve agent that killed Kim's brother in 15 minutes.
But if it was on the doorknob, the last contact they could possibly have had with the nerve agent was a full three hours before it took effect. Not only that, they were well enough to drive, to walk around a shopping centre, visit a pub, and then and this is the truly unbelievable bit their central nervous systems felt in such good fettle, and their digestive systems so in balance, they were able to sit down and eat a full restaurant meal. Only after all that were they both at precisely the same time despite their substantially different weights suddenly struck down by the nerve agent, which went from no effects at all, to deadly, on an alarm clock basis.
This narrative simply is not remotely credible. Nerve agents above all "military grade nerve agents" were designed as battlefield weapons. They do not leave opponents fighting fit for hours. There is no description in the scientific literature of a nerve agent having this extraordinary time bomb effect. Here another genuine Professor describes their fast action in Scientific American:

Unlike traditional poisons, nerve agents don't need to be added to food and drink to be effective. They are quite volatile, colourless liquids (except VX, said to resemble engine oil). The concentration in the vapour at room temperature is lethal. The symptoms of poisoning come on quickly, and include chest tightening, difficulty in breathing, and very likely asphyxiation. Associated symptoms include vomiting and massive incontinence. Victims of the Tokyo subway attack were reported to be bringing up blood. Kim Jong-nam died in less than 20 minutes. Eventually, you die either through asphyxiation or cardiac arrest.

If the nerve agent was on the door handle and they touched it, the onset of these symptoms would have occurred before they reached the car. They would certainly have not felt like sitting down to a good lunch two hours later. And they would have been dead three weeks ago. We all pray that Sergei also recovers.
The second part of the extraordinarily happy coincidence of the nerve agent being on the door handle, and the British government having a Russian manual on applying nerve agent to door handles, is whether the manual is real. It strikes me this is improbable it rings far too much of the kind of intel they had on Iraqi WMD. It also allegedly dates from the last ten years, so Putin's Russia, not the period of chaos, and the FSB is a pretty tight organisation in this period. MI6 penetration is just not that good.
A key question is of course how long the UK has had this manual, and what was its provenance. Another key question is why Britain failed to produce it to the OPCW and indeed why it does not publish it now, with any identifying marks of the particular copy excluded, given it has widely publicised its existence and possession of it. If Boris Johnson wants to be believed by us, publish the Russian manual.
We also have to consider whether the FSB really publishes its secret assassination techniques in a manual. I attended, as other senior FCO staff, a number of MI6 training courses. One on explosives handling was at Fort Monckton, not too far from Salisbury. One in a very nondescript London office block was on bugging techniques. I recall seeing rigs set up to drill minute holes in walls, turning very slowly indeed. Many hours to get through the wall but almost no noise or vibration. It was where I learnt the government can listen to you through activating the microphone in your mobile phone, even when your phone is switched off. I recall javelin like directional microphones suspended from ceilings to point at distant targets, and a listening device that worked through a beam of infra-red light, but the target could foil by closing the curtains.
The point is that there were of course no manuals for this stuff, no manuals for any other secret MI6 techniques, and these things are not lightly written down.
I would add to this explanation that I lost all faith in the police investigation when it was taken out of the hands of the local police force and given to the highly politicised Metropolitan Police anti-terror squad. I suspect the explanation of the remarkably convenient (but physically impossible) evidence of the door handle method that precisely fits the "Russian manual" may lie there.
These are some of the problems I have with the official account of events. Boris lied about the certainty of the provenance of the nerve agent, and his fall back evidence is at present highly unconvincing. None of which proves it was not the Russian state that was responsible. But there is no convincing proof that it was, and there are several other possibilities. Eventually the glaring problems with the official narrative might be resolved, but what is plain is that Johnson and May have been premature and grossly irresponsible.
I shall post this evening on Johnson's final claim, that only the Russians had motive.
Update: I have just listened to the released alleged phone conversation between Yulia Skripal in Salisbury Hospital and her cousin Viktoria, which deepens the mystery further. I should say that in Russian the conversation sounds perfectly natural to me. My concern is after the 30 seconds mark where Viktoria tells Yulia she is applying for a British visa to come and see Yulia.
Yulia replies "nobody will give you a visa". Viktoria then tells Yulia that if she is asked if she wants Viktoria to visit, she should say yes. Yulia's reply to this is along the lines of "that will not happen in this situation", meaning she would not be allowed by the British to see Viktoria. I apologise my Russian is very rusty for a Kremlinbot, and someone might give a better translation, but this key response from Yulia is missing from all the transcripts I have seen.
What is there about Yulia's situation that makes her feel a meeting between her and her cousin will be prevented by the British government? And why would Yulia believe the British government will not give her cousin a visa in the circumstance of these extreme family illnesses?

The alleged assassination "manual" has as about as much veracity as three people magically recovering - undamaged in any way - from poisoning by the deadly nerve agent in the world.

I think Christopher Steele and his mates at Orbis have their fingerprints all over this dangerous farce. The levels of cock-up, amateurism and emergency patch-up has the same feel as the piss dossier Steele manufactured.

[Peter Lemkin]

Wasn't a 'sample' of said 'agent' given to Porton Down chemists, who said that it was a type of nerve agent developed by the Russians? Unless I have been touching too many door knobs lately, I think yes. If what they were given was in fact tested and was in fact a Novichok nerve agent, then logic would dictate that it was not on a door knob nor on anything that touched the Skripals - aside from the matter of who made it and who put it where. The UN Bioweapon report should be out in a few days, but they too will ONLY state what the chemical they were give is - NOT who made it nor where it was placed. I believe they have the mandate and capability to investigate such matters - but the UK govt. I heard refused to allow them to do so. Wonder why? Anyway, it is probably too late in the matter to do a good investigation now. One wonders what they Skripals were given and when - and by whom? [and what the motive was]. I for one can think of many nations or groups/entitites who might want to do such a thing as a false-flag operation. Could the Russians have done this? Yes. Is there any evidence they did? I've not seen any yet. Could the Brits have done this to blame the Russians? Yes. Is there any evidence they may have? I'd say at this time more than any evidence or circumstantial evidence pointing to Russia or anyone else...but I can think of other players who could have pulled this off too. Sadly, I think like the man who died in his locked flat in a North Face Bag [XXL], this will play on and then be forgotten when another similar matter comes to the fore - and never be resolved. We live in very strange times, and the enemy is made to appear able to strike anyone everywhere; but just may be hiding behind the cloak of the authorities and their 'knights of the round table'. Nothing new in that.

Anyway, isn't it nice to know that some 'deadly instant-acting military-grade organophosphate nerve agents' are past their sell-by date or just duds........::bowtie::

[James Lateer]

Just another thought. Somewhere I read that when you have a double agent you're dealing with, often the only way to end the situation is to murder the unfortunate person. I have read a little on the subject of double agents in two books by Raymond Batvinis about the FBI double agents being run during World War II as well as similar information about the British SOE running double agents during World War II.

I don't remember where I read that double agents were especially likely to be killed after their principals were done with them. And I don't remember the actual reason for this, only that it was a well-known fact in some spy circles. If the victim were a Russian/UK double agent, then you have twice the number of suspects you would have with a single agent.

Could have been the Russians or the UK, in theory.

James Lateer

[David Guyatt]

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Sergei Skripal is now reported by the British media to be recovering well --- following his daughters phone call. Of course, following her phone call what else could they say.

I'm well past the Novichok explanation now. For me personally, it's pure theatre and balls. Something else poison the Skripals and the policeman (presumably) and it wasn't a military grade nerve agent.

[Peter Lemkin]

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Sergei Skripal is now reported by the British media to be recovering well --- following his daughters phone call. Of course, following her phone call what else could they say.

I'm well past the Novichok explanation now. For me personally, it's pure theatre and balls. Something else poison the Skripals and the policeman (presumably) and it wasn't a military grade nerve agent.

Wow! That is some new decapacitation agent someone has - keeps someone unable to do anything for about a month - with apparent full recovery.....sounds like a military man's dream - dose all the 'enemy' soldiers' or 'agents' and walk/sneak into the country unopposed...or pull a false-flag op. Perhaps the UK is planning on taking back their old empire with chemicals - chocolate flavored no less. If this were not so serious, it really would make great Monty Python sketch in the dead parrot genre. "They've been poisoned to death!". 'No they haven't! They'll be fine in a month, just you wait...!" "I want my money back now!" "No you'll have to wait a month and you'll see...they'll come around and be fine!".

[David Guyatt]

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Sergei Skripal is now reported by the British media to be recovering well --- following his daughters phone call. Of course, following her phone call what else could they say.

I'm well past the Novichok explanation now. For me personally, it's pure theatre and balls. Something else poison the Skripals and the policeman (presumably) and it wasn't a military grade nerve agent.

Wow! That is some new decapacitation agent someone has - keeps someone unable to do anything for about a month - with apparent full recovery.....sounds like a military man's dream - dose all the 'enemy' soldiers' or 'agents' and walk/sneak into the country unopposed...or pull a false-flag op. Perhaps the UK is planning on taking back their old empire with chemicals - chocolate flavored no less. If this were not so serious, it really would make great Monty Python sketch in the dead parrot genre. "They've been poisoned to death!". 'No they haven't! They'll be fine in a month, just you wait...!" "I want my money back now!" "No you'll have to wait a month and you'll see...they'll come around and be fine!".

On the other hand, perhaps they were simply drugged in hospital? I appreciate it sounds bizarre, but more bizarre still is 3 people attacked with a military grade Novichok and all 3 of them recovering without harm.