Is the Assassination of JFK an "unsolved Civil Rights murder case from the 1960s"?

[Ed Jewett]

I am going to make comment and then I am going to vacate the thread forever and stick to my own 'stuff'.

I would hope, trust and implore that the founders of this wonderful forum, resource, tool, community, potentiality not be split by the actions, intrusions and infiltrations of anyone (whether their POV is valid or not). I don't know John B. I have not read his work; it does not inform me or resonate with me. OTOH, many of DPF's founders have communicated with me. We have made contact. Mr. Drago, in particular, has moved me, taught me, enrolled me; I suspect his ire is up because of the challenges to one who taught and moved him. That is simple, honest, sincere, even noble, because -- in the end -- we learn best from those with whom we have connected on a personal level.

I have seen this same thing occur in other forums where newcomers have used hammers and chisels of various design to insert divisiveness, chaos, and more. Civility of conduct is often used as one of the hammers. And while I am all in favor of civil conduct and conversation, sometimes you have to get to the point, as Charles has taught me, that we do no service to anyone -- the other, ourselves, or the silent reader -- if we fail to speak our truth.

We must remain focused on "the prize".

[Peter Lemkin]

Wow....I hadn't looked at this thread until now....:joyman: not good. May I suggest everyone take a few deep breaths and try to relax a bit. JB, if you are still here, I think you have much to offer in terms of research, but should keep it to that; and let others decide for themselves how it fits, if it fits, and what to do with it [conclusions]. I think Charles is correct that you often go off the rails if someone disagrees or ignores [in your mind] your conclusions. I don't think any one has solved the case. Many have made important additions to it, and we all benefit from good research of others (and are led down blind-alleys by poor or misleading research by others). No one of us, dead or alive, is going to get a gold-star for solving the case as in a S. Holmes novel. It is simply too complex a case.

Sorry to see two highly esteemed member-founders seemingly in disagreement. Peace to all. I withdraw.

[John Bevilaqua]

I'm done with you, little man.
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Rather, it's because you are a liar,
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You poor, deranged cretin.
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John Bevilaqua,

I apologize for the rhetoric directed at you in this thread.

DPF staff members are expected to observe the same rules as members. Name calling and verbal abuse is not acceptable. As I said recently in another thread, such abuse is inconsistent with our principles at DPF.

At least I hope it is...

Thank you for pointing this out to everyone. He has always had a tendency towards being ultra hypocritical. Many others warned me about him. I only wish that he would focus on discovering something unique, valuable and original in the case so he would get the attention, recognition and plaudits he so desperately needs. My supposition is that his father may have grossly neglected him or ignored him as a child. Then he would not have to resort to gutter level tactics, very reminiscent of the very McCarthyesque and Gestapo-like tactics employed by those at The John Birch Society in order to silence or shout down those with whom he disagrees. More than ever before I am convinced that the members of The John Birch Society who were on both the American Security Council and The Shickshinny Knights of Malta in particular Robert Morris and Charles Willoughby were the real lynchpins in the JFK murder. And The John Birchers also led the way in floating several successive trial balloons to find the perfect scapegoat until they landed upon their final choice - The Bolsheviks and ComSymps within ONLY the CIA when in fact the patently obvious guilty parties within the CIA were actually Fascists and pro-Nazis with a Eugenics background like James J. Angleton and Ray S. Cline. And I have been saying this for about 15 years now and Richard Condon discovered even this 50+ years ago. And the very gullible and easily swayed among us have fallen for this line concocted by the PsyOps specialists like Angleton (CIA), Morris (ONI) and Willoughby (Army) hook, line and sinker. Angleton was actually a Nazi mole, looking for Communist moles within the CIA. And Willoughby several times before contributed to the start of major wars and conflagrations, first at Pearl Harbor where he was in charge of the Pacific Defense Corridor, then in Korea at the Yalu River, and later during the Bay of Pigs and right after the JFK Assassination in order to create circumstances which would cause the Soviet Union and the United States to engage in a fatal End Game allowing the 3rd or the 4th Reich to emerge as the dominant force in the world. Willoughby's and MacArthur's enmity and hatred for the OSS and the CIA are well documented. And it was these two, along with Morris and Angleton who formulated the plan to assess 100% of the blame for the Assassination of JFK on only the CIA. And this concept seems to have taken a firm hold among the less observant and perspicacious among those in the "JFK research community" many of whom are basically just anti-Government right wing anarchists, insurrectionists and treasonous seditionists, in my honest opinion. How ironic is it that that JFK's killers fell into this same category: anti-Government right wing anarchists, insurrectionists and treasonous seditionists who share a common John Birch inspired mentality.

Those who lump together all the false flag right wing campaigns like the OK Bombing, the Waco Conflagration, the 9/11 Terrorist Attack, and the Lunar Landing Hoax with the JFK Assassination as alleged examples of wide-ranging US Government sponsored efforts have only one goal in mind: The Destruction of our Democracy and obfuscation of the truth about each of these campaigns. This will never happen on my watch.

These John Birch Society Eugenicists and White Supremacists who were part of The Shickshinny Knights of Malta, the MissSovComm and later WACL managed to organize and lead the entire JFK Character Assassination Plot, and when that failed they moved on to the actual JFK Assassination Plot, then they carried out that plot to its conclusion after failing in the first attempt in 1958 in California. And somehow they even managed to usurp the role of actually "solving" the JFK Assassination Mystery and picking the Scapegoats and then served as both the Judge, Jury and Prosecutioners in the Court of Public Opinion. Just an amazing piece of work. Amazing. Their background in PsyOps was PERFECT for this role. Just PERFECT. And when I watch how these John Birch constructed ruses are parroted almost like the members of Raymond Shaw's Company in ManCand by both the old timers on this case and their recently converted younger acolytes and sycophants alike it is really discouraging. Thought Control and Mind Control really works.

"Sgt. Raymond Shaw is one of the bravest and finest men I have ever known and one of the best and most heroic soldiers who I have ever had the privilege to work with." ... or whatever.

But once people realize that these forums are dominated and controlled by
those who have come to believe in and propagate these false flag right wing anti-Government campaigns like the OK Bombing, the Waco Conflagration, the 9/11 Terrorist Attack, the Lunar Landing Hoax and their version of the JFK Assassination hopefully they will come to their senses and choose not to join with them. Their initials for those who have not yet figured it all out yet include JW, PL, DM, PW, BK and LC among many, many others. And when they are exposed after their tactics and methods are elucidated they fly off the handle and just start throwing out insults and accusations in an attempt to drown out any contrary views or opinions. What a Democracy.

These Right Wingers organized the plot, they killed JFK, they picked their scapegoats, they perpetuated the "cover-up" and now they try to rule The Court of Public Opinion after the fact. And very few seem to see right through this thinly veiled subterfuge and have the courage to oppose it given the potential unleashing of the full-force effects of the pathological wrath and the truly diabolical rage of the likes of Chas. Drago and Company. Very few at all. Get a life. Get a wife, play the fife, sheath the knife and avoid all the other options which are apparently rife with strife.

[Charles Drago]

I'm done with you, little man.
...
Rather, it's because you are a liar,
...
You poor, deranged cretin.
...

John Bevilaqua,

I apologize for the rhetoric directed at you in this thread.

DPF staff members are expected to observe the same rules as members. Name calling and verbal abuse is not acceptable. As I said recently in another thread, such abuse is inconsistent with our principles at DPF.

At least I hope it is...

Thank you for pointing this out to everyone. He has always had a tendency towards being ultra hypocritical. Many others warned me about him. I only wish that he would focus on discovering something unique, valuable and original in the case so he would get the attention, recognition and plaudits he so desperately needs. My supposition is that his father may have grossly neglected him or ignored him as a child. Then he would not have to resort to gutter level tactics, very reminiscent of the very McCarthyesque and Gestapo-like tactics employed by those at The John Birch Society in order to silence or shout down those with whom he disagrees.

There you have it, Myra. You opened the sewer, and quess what spilled out?

I'm just all a'twitter waiting for your next apology to this ... haircut.

There. I've just given you something to apologize for.

You made the choice.

You get "Bevilaqua."

[Myra Bronstein]

John,

Please do not get the wrong impression from my previous post. You are not following the forum rules either, and my earlier post was not a permission slip for you to continue to break rules and make personal attacks against another member of the forum.

You are totally out of line. And you have been warned before.