Chemtrails

[Jack White]

Yesterday's 6:30 a.m. chemtrail over Fort Worth was of the newer SAWTOOTH variety...see original and
detail photos below. The "sawtooth" feature seems to be a new feature to cause the chemtrails to have
a more natural cirrus-like appearance when they disperse.

Jack

[Keith Millea]

Jack,
I did see that sawtooth pattern also,but I can't say all were that defined.The ones I saw yesterday(many)were coming North to South.They were basically flying down the I-5 corridor,where almost all the States population are located.I don't know about flight patterns,but there are only two major commercial airports that are North of here.Portland and Seattle,with Portland being 200 miles away.They were all heading South maybe going to California.

One question for you Jack.Have you ever heard of any electrical disruptions from these trails.I say this because I left my computer on when I went into town,in it's low power (sleep) mode.When I returned and logged on,it was weird.My AOL screen didn't show the usual number of emails that I have,and when I opened my email,it had a new email from my son.When I clicked it,it knocked me off the internet.I called my son,but he said he didn't send any email.We figured out that the email was in the "old email" box and was sent back on the 15th.This has never happened before.I hope you can figure out what I'm trying to explain.STRANGE.....:dontknow:

[Jack White]

Jack,
I did see that sawtooth pattern also,but I can't say all were that defined.The ones I saw yesterday(many)were coming North to South.They were basically flying down the I-5 corridor,where almost all the States population are located.I don't know about flight patterns,but there are only two major commercial airports that are North of here.Portland and Seattle,with Portland being 200 miles away.They were all heading South maybe going to California.

One question for you Jack.Have you ever heard of any electrical disruptions from these trails.I say this because I left my computer on when I went into town,in it's low power (sleep) mode.When I returned and logged on,it was weird.My AOL screen didn't show the usual number of emails that I have,and when I opened my email,it had a new email from my son.When I clicked it,it knocked me off the internet.I called my son,but he said he didn't send any email.We figured out that the email was in the "old email" box and was sent back on the 15th.This has never happened before.I hope you can figure out what I'm trying to explain.STRANGE.....:dontknow:

Odd coincidence...my computer did have problems yesterday.
Cut itself off. When I rebooted, it has a humming noise.

The sawtooth chemtrails are a recent development. I think is
has to do with making them more "cloudlike".

Jack

[Ed Jewett]

There's no such things as chemtrails, right?

People who believe in them are kooks, right?

No one's been up on the air night and day spraying thousands of square miles of air space around the world.

If they were, the government and the news media would have told us and explained it all to us, right?

Uh...maybe not. Look at this...

Video: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/899.html

[Matthew Lewis]

There's no such things as chemtrails, right?

People who believe in them are kooks, right?

No one's been up on the air night and day spraying thousands of square miles of air space around the world.

If they were, the government and the news media would have told us and explained it all to us, right?

Uh...maybe not. Look at this...

Video: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/899.html

The people that made that video came out a few days later saying they made it to make fun of "chemtrail" believers.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost....stcount=71

What is pointed to as "nozzles" are the flap jack screw housings. The mechanism to lower and raise the flaps are inside. They are seen on every KC-10 and the civilian DC-10
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.se...sc&q=dc-10
Other large aircraft have similar structures.

What is seen is an aerodynamic contrail forming over the top of the wing and around the flap mechanism. Not as common as those from engines but it happens and was described nearly 70 years ago.
http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/repo...-l-474.pdf
Seen on all types of aircraft
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.se...c+contrail

It "turns off and on" as the plane flys through nonuniform air.

This all says nothing about whether or not there is a worldwide spraying program but this isn't it.

[Jack White]

Lewis' assignment is to monitor any internet mention
of chemtrails and show up to debunk it. He is a member
of the USAF. If he is here long, we will hear all chemtrails
called "persistent contrails". He will challenge EVERY posting
on Chemtrails.

Jack

[Matthew Lewis]

Lewis' assignment is to monitor any internet mention
of chemtrails and show up to debunk it. He is a member
of the USAF. If he is here long, we will hear all chemtrails
called "persistent contrails". He will challenge EVERY posting
on Chemtrails.

Jack

Any evidence for your accusation? Yes, I am in the USAF. I don't believe I've ever hidden that fact. But as I have said MULTIPLE times on the other forum, I am NOT paid or in any way compensated to post here or anywhere else. My views come from my own research. Can you respect that people can have different opinions than you?

Any evidence I will "challenge EVERY posting on Chemtrails"? I've been a member here for more than a year now. I have seen previous postings on the subject and yet today was my first post. I just felt like commenting on this video because I saw it mentioned on a different forum and saw that it was an admitted hoax. So it seems you are WRONG that I will "challenge EVERY posting on Chemtrails".

Also, as I have said before, if the "chemtrail" supporters could take a sample directly from a trail and have it tested and actually find something that is not part of jet exhaust, I'll believe them. I'd become one of their biggest supporters. They have been promising to do this for more than 10 years now. Where are the results? Why instead are people content to assume a sample taken at ground level has anything to do with something 30,000 feet in the air?

While you're here, can you point to anything I said about the video that was wrong or are you just here to poison the well?

[Myra Bronstein]

Lewis' assignment is to monitor any internet mention
of chemtrails and show up to debunk it. He is a member
of the USAF. If he is here long, we will hear all chemtrails
called "persistent contrails". He will challenge EVERY posting
on Chemtrails.

Jack

Jack,

Please review our forum rules here:
http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=58

Specifically:

"14. Our fundamental objective is for DPF to be an arena where research can be seriously discussed, and thoroughly refuted if appropriate, without name-calling or member abuse. It is acceptable to be robust and even dismissive of the arguments of other members, if analysis and evidence are provided. It is acceptable to state that a particular argument serves the agenda of the powerful, again if analysis and evidence are provided. However, since DPF is primarily intended as an arena where serious informed research can be developed and debated, it is not acceptable to describe another member as, for instance, an agent provocateur."

It is not ok to call someone a troll or an agent provocateur, or to hint that's what they are. Please debate the subject and don't attack the person.

[Jack White]

Lewis' assignment is to monitor any internet mention
of chemtrails and show up to debunk it. He is a member
of the USAF. If he is here long, we will hear all chemtrails
called "persistent contrails". He will challenge EVERY posting
on Chemtrails.

Jack

Jack,

Please review our forum rules here:
http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=58

Specifically:

"14. Our fundamental objective is for DPF to be an arena where research can be seriously discussed, and thoroughly refuted if appropriate, without name-calling or member abuse. It is acceptable to be robust and even dismissive of the arguments of other members, if analysis and evidence are provided. It is acceptable to state that a particular argument serves the agenda of the powerful, again if analysis and evidence are provided. However, since DPF is primarily intended as an arena where serious informed research can be developed and debated, it is not acceptable to describe another member as, for instance, an agent provocateur."

It is not ok to call someone a troll or an agent provocateur, or to hint that's what they are. Please debate the subject and don't attack the person.

I have merely described what Lewis does. I have not called him anything.

He replies to EVERY posting on any forum regarding Chemtrails. He
is (was?) stationed at an AF base in Georgia.

I have not violated any forum rule.

Jack

[Myra Bronstein]

Lewis' assignment is to monitor any internet mention
of chemtrails and show up to debunk it. He is a member
of the USAF. If he is here long, we will hear all chemtrails
called "persistent contrails". He will challenge EVERY posting
on Chemtrails.

Jack

Jack,

Please review our forum rules here:
http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=58

Specifically:

"14. Our fundamental objective is for DPF to be an arena where research can be seriously discussed, and thoroughly refuted if appropriate, without name-calling or member abuse. It is acceptable to be robust and even dismissive of the arguments of other members, if analysis and evidence are provided. It is acceptable to state that a particular argument serves the agenda of the powerful, again if analysis and evidence are provided. However, since DPF is primarily intended as an arena where serious informed research can be developed and debated, it is not acceptable to describe another member as, for instance, an agent provocateur."

It is not ok to call someone a troll or an agent provocateur, or to hint that's what they are. Please debate the subject and don't attack the person.

I have merely described what Lewis does. I have not called him anything.

He replies to EVERY posting on any forum regarding Chemtrails. He
is (was?) stationed at an AF base in Georgia.

I have not violated any forum rule.

Jack

Hafta call bullshit here Jack. You have violated a forum rule. Specifically rule #14. Please don't play word games; whether it's a verb or a noun it's still a violation.