Michael Shermer: JFK assassination=Alien abductions

[Jim DiEugenio]

http://www.ctka.net/reviews/shermer_illusion.html

THis guy has been on the horizon for months. He is now at the new MSM, that is Huffington Post.

I don't know what is worse, Shermer or what Huffpo is fast becoming.

[Magda Hassan]

:coffeescreen:
James Randii is very suspect. And Shermer looks like he is cut from the same cloth. Amazing that this apparently solved case is still such a hot potato for TPTB that they have to regularly wheel these sort of guys out to do their magic. :curtain:

[Jim DiEugenio]

Magda:

I think Frank says they both work at Skeptic together.

[Magda Hassan]

Says it all really. I'm pretty sure that CSICOP is some sort of front too. And Randii's other little group the False Memory Syndrome Foundation I am convinced is a front.

[Jim DiEugenio]

They are pulling out all the stops for the 50th.

Shermer is prepping a documentary for the CBC.

[Robert Morrow]

Says it all really. I'm pretty sure that CSICOP is some sort of front too. And Randii's other little group the False Memory Syndrome Foundation I am convinced is a front.

The False Memory Syndrome Foundation???

YOU BET IT IS A CIA FRONT!!! It was created to do damage control for the CIA's mind control experiments abuse and also elements of the CIA's participation in pedophilia. Seriously. The FMSF is hardcore CIA damage control front.

The founders of it were CIA foundation funded freaks. Nick Bryant, author of the Franklin Scandal www.franklinscandal.com knows all about these guys: http://educate-yourself.org/mc/falsememo...1996.shtml

Now read this: http://www.whale.to/b/fms_q.html

"The CIA created a front group called The False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) to debunk, ridicule, and defame victims (and their advocates) of Satanic Ritual Abuse, pedophilic sexual abuse, and CIA cult mind control activities. The board members of FMSF reads like a Who's Who of CIA contractors and 'consultants'. Incredibly, Peter and Pamela Freyd , executive directors of the FMSF along with FMSF founder, Dr. Ralph Underwager, have fallen from public grace because they, themselves, have been involved in the very abuse that they claim is a result of 'false' memory on the part of the child."--Ken Adachi

And this http://wemustknow.net/2010/08/the-false-...rome-hoax/

[Dawn Meredith]

They are pulling out all the stops for the 50th.

Shermer is prepping a documentary for the CBC.

I agree that MSM will be pulling out ALL the stops for the 50th. I have some ideas myself. DId Bill Kelly ever come back here? I would like to talk with him. And CD and Jim D. We need to plan big. Bigger than our opposition.

Dawn

[Dawn Meredith]

Says it all really. I'm pretty sure that CSICOP is some sort of front too. And Randii's other little group the False Memory Syndrome Foundation I am convinced is a front.

The False Memory Syndrome Foundation???

YOU BET IT IS A CIA FRONT!!! It was created to do damage control for the CIA's mind control experiments abuse and also elements of the CIA's participation in pedophilia. Seriously. The FMSF is hardcore CIA damage control front.

The founders of it were CIA foundation funded freaks. Nick Bryant, author of the Franklin Scandal www.franklinscandal.com knows all about these guys: http://educate-yourself.org/mc/falsememo...1996.shtml

Now read this: http://www.whale.to/b/fms_q.html

"The CIA created a front group called The False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) to debunk, ridicule, and defame victims (and their advocates) of Satanic Ritual Abuse, pedophilic sexual abuse, and CIA cult mind control activities. The board members of FMSF reads like a Who's Who of CIA contractors and 'consultants'. Incredibly, Peter and Pamela Freyd , executive directors of the FMSF along with FMSF founder, Dr. Ralph Underwager, have fallen from public grace because they, themselves, have been involved in the very abuse that they claim is a result of 'false' memory on the part of the child."--Ken Adachi

And this http://wemustknow.net/2010/08/the-false-...rome-hoax/

Robert: At last something we all agree on. Were you in Austin by chance when the Fran's Day Care case was going on? That was prior to the FMSF creeps.

Dawn

[Bill Kelly]

They are pulling out all the stops for the 50th.

Shermer is prepping a documentary for the CBC.

I agree that MSM will be pulling out ALL the stops for the 50th. I have some ideas myself. DId Bill Kelly ever come back here? I would like to talk with him. And CD and Jim D. We need to plan big. Bigger than our opposition.

Dawn

Hi Dawn,

I'm still here.

I always thought that it would take an organized connection bigger and more powerful that those who killed JFK to figure it out.

It's no secret that my modus operandi is geared towards my well placed goals of getting Congressional Oversight Hearings on the JFK Act and a grand jury investigation into the crimes related to the related assassinations and murders.

A Task Force is what is necessary to obtain the proper evidence.

I already have a pretty nice pose of people, incliuding two active and two retired federal prosecutors to help make the grand jury case, but the Congressional Oversight Hearings must come first in order to properly set the stage.

Besides the epic Hawaiian conference that is expected to garner support, strategies and tactics that will play out over the next three years, efforts are already underway to generate public actions over Martin Luther King Day later this month, an event marking the assassintion of Malcolm X in February, and a week long series of activities over mid-March duinrg Sunshine Week, especially in Washington DC, where the concentration of thought should be focused - as DC is the home of the NARA, the evidence on record, Congress and the courts that will rule on Open Government, Joannidies/Morley v. CIA, and other issues over the next few years.

There has been much discussion about the need to counter the HBO-Bugliosi-Tom Hanks production, but I think it shouldn't be so much to stop the production, as the worst thing that could happen is for them to cancel it - and ruin the opportunity for us to respond to it and/or come up with a more compelling, truthfull and more accurate produciton of our own.

One of the things that will be necssary, in my view, is to garner the attention and support of the mainstream, ordinary people, and one of the strengths of the Open Government - Free The Files - Who Killed JFK? movement is that it is non-denominational, non-partisan, neither libearl nor conservative, Republican nor Democrt, and that is a real posiitive plus in DC where they are looking for issues that everyone agrees on.

And as far as I can see, there are few opponents to Morley v. CIA, or Congressional Oversight of JFK Act, and freeing the JFK files and all secret records should be a cornerstone of the new bi-partisan cooperation that the Republicans have claimed to be their new mantra in the new Congress.

One way that I thought would garner general public interest is to hold an assassination film festival, and even give high school and college credit to those who participate and qualify. One of the first big conferences that started the ball rolling to free the files was a Cinema and Politics symposium at American University that was covered by CSPAN that helped begin the movement to free the JFK files and passage of the JFK Act. That vast public audience has to be retapped - and their numbers and influence brought back into the battle to convince this congress to free the files now - or in 2013 instead of 2017 or never.

Of course there are a lot of other ideas as to how to respond and prepare for the expcted unprecidented media and public interest in the JFK assassination, as it builds up to the 50th anniversary, but I think that that Congressional Oversight and Grand Jury are the two avenues that are possible and worthy of pursuit.

I'd like to hear from others about these ideas, because they are certainly not mine alone, especially Dawn, JD and CD,.....

Bill Kelly

[Magda Hassan]

That Hawaii conference is looking fantastic :cheer: and I'm very jealous of everyone who will be able to go. Wish I could.

And I know that you've long wanted to re-open the murder case Bill, and it is encouraging to see some progress there too. I hope there will be more to come. I'm interested to know the decisions and legislation that was passed because of Kennedy. Much of which laid the ground work for the later civil rights brought in by LBJ and much of which would have brought about better relations with other countries to counter the Chomsky's of this world who still maintain that he was a hawk. As a corollary it would be interesting to compare what legislation was never implemented or undone by LBJ and how that effected the direction of the US. Might give some clues as to who's behind the curtain too.

I think it is fine if the Hanks HBO series is canceled but it would be better for it be canceled because it is agreed that the story is fiction and not because the sponsors are worried.

What's happening to the Joannides files? I don't think the agency has heard about this bi-partisan support for opening the files. Either that or they're still definitely partisan to secrecy and cover up.