The Hughes Film - Behind the Picket Fence

[Stan Wilbourne]

[video=dailymotion;xeesai]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xeesai_jfk-assassination-films-robert-hugh_news[/video]

[Charles Drago]

Stan,

Our boy's turn is very abrupt, with a quick pause, and may be coordinated to the actions of a man in a suit on the right of the frame in the parking lot.

Our boy looks abruptly to his right, sees the suited man walking off, and then quickly turns and moves away.

[Keith Millea]

Stan,

Our boy's turn is very abrupt, with a quick pause, and may be coordinated to the actions of a man in a suit on the right of the frame in the parking lot.

Our boy looks abruptly to his right, sees the suited man walking off, and then quickly turns and moves away.

Nice catch Charles.....It looks to me like maybe some coordination there.What say others?Study the video frames around 55-60.

[Martin Harris]

Stan:

What about the old woman and man with a hat walking away from Dealey Plaza? (at 51 seconds) Far more suspicious. They walk away as everyone heads to the plaza, Does anyone know who they are? I don't think someone posing as an old woman, no matter how overweight she appears, can be ruled out. I've never heard of any theories in which women are involved. I think an elderly slightly obese woman would be a perfect cover. Has anyone heard or read where a woman might have been on the team that killed JFK?

I can't tell if the two "police officers" if that's what they were are stuffing something into a car. It would seem odd if they were the badge man to do so with an audience as large as appears to be watching them. But, as Charles Drago noted, the guy in the tan jacket appears to fit the criteria of a plausiable doppelganger of LHO. I wasn't able to dect the sadness Charles noted but he does appear to be sinewy.


"The cat, having sat upon a hot stove lid, will not sit upon a hot stove lid again. But he won't sit upon a cold stove lid, either." Mark Twain

[Bernice Moore]

Peter here is one of that pkg lot area after with the dpd, brought out for us by lee forman, i believe it is the same area or within there,very similar..been sometime since this area was looked at, so i am a duh...hutup:.best b ps i think there were two women in the car, jack if you recall, your memory would be appreciated...b

below is from the hughes film showing the area of where the crop that was posted came from up on the left, for some reason i cannot find the same that lee did for us, and i do know i had it, and have seen it of late, within lee's work,i will keep on a looking...b

[Stan Wilbourne]

Martin, good observations. I noticed the man in the hat you spoke of, but did not notice the woman. With this case, anything is possible.

Charles' note about the man in the center I think is spot on (love that term). He fits the description of someone seen on the upper floors of the school book building just before JFK's murder. He also fits some of the descriptions of who was on hand at the Tippet killing and possibly who ducked into the infamous Rambler, as well as who Marion Baker may have encountered upon entering the TSBD.

This man is looking directly at a policeman (who to me looks remarkably like Badge Man) with someone else who looks to me putting something into a car.

Trench Coat Man seems to pay particular attention to him in this short video.

Does he (TCM - and I love those type terms as well; I'm having a good morning) look like the same fella crossing Elm that looks so much like E. Howard Hunt?

And, thanks Bernice for your photos in this thread and for all you do to advance this case. It doesn't go unnoticed.

BTW, I find watching the Hughes Film to be haunting. Watching President Kennedy ride into his death, gets me every time.

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[Charles Drago]

I'm bumping this thread for the simple reason that I regularly think back to it and to Stan Wilbourne's many important contributions to our work.

The .gif -- I think -- of the video in question is accessible as the final of four images on post #9. I recall seeing a longer version, but I can't recall where.

My observation in post #12, I humbly suggest, may be worthy of reconsideration.

Are you out there, Stan?

Any further thoughts on this matter?

[Peter Lemkin]

Agreed, important area and persons - some not innocent in these photos! Stan seems to not be watching. Sadly, Bernice who also has lots of photos and gifs of this area is no longer active here either. But if anyone has a specific request, I can email Bernice.

[Stan Wilbourne]

Hello Charles, I'm still out here, "Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy..."

My contributions to this fine forum are meager in comparison to what some here bring. There are times I tell myself I have to get away - and it's good to take breaks on occasion - but I invariably find my way back to read, what I feel, is the 'cutting edge' stuff as to what happened to President Kennedy.

After awhile there's a construct in my head of all of you. I have an image of "Charles" and "Dawn." "Peter" and "Jan" and "Magda." The posters too. "Jim" and "Greg" and "Phil." "Vasilios" and "Peter." "Adele" and "Nathaniel." "Mark" and "Keith." "David" and "Bill." The illusion of the Internet has made us friends, at least for those of us that read more than we post.

I don't intend to diminish the other sites that contribute effort and understanding of what happened to our last real President. But, this site is the place where I feel the greatest kinship. This is the place I find the biggest minds...and hearts. And, it is always with great appreciation I come here for a visit and to learn about the world where I live.

Many years ago now I set out on a journey to discover the truth of that world, both inside and out. I am convinced at this stage, that journey has no end. And, I'm no longer at all certain the division of the inner and outer has any real substance. But, that's a topic for another day...

I am fascinated by the logistics and machinations of the Kennedy Murder. I can read about it endlessly and discuss it the same. The number of shooters in the plaza. Where they were stationed and the number of shots. Doppelgangers. Body swaps. Film alteration. All of that.

At one stage in my search I wanted names. Real names, dammit. Not "The Military Industrial Complex" or the "American Corporatocracy." Who were the men in the shadows that could kill a president in broad daylight of an American city and get away with it? And, after years of search, those names - at least to some limited extent - began to surface. I began to feel that although I knew I would never completely understand how the whole machinery of the assassination worked, I at least had a broad outline of it, who was behind it and why.

I feel I have some knowledge now of how the American political system really works, the disgrace of it. The utter lack of compassion that comes from this system. But, all systems fail in the end, do they not? Even the once noble ones.

I saw the movie "Lincoln" a few days ago. In no way have I ever been a Steven Spielberg fan, but this movie knocked my socks off. Mainly because it showed Lincoln as a human being who felt a calling beyond the time of his life, with an urgency to get something done before he departed this mortal coil, with nothing taken for granted.

That got me to wondering. What if there was one man like Lincoln or Kennedy in a position of real power in the world? Could he effect change? One man to see that there is nothing really to be gained in the reach for control and/or power; one man to see that we all die. We all share the same experience, as JFK said in his American University speech. This life is ours, and when one is diminished we all are.

What if David or Nelson were more like Jack and Bobby, instead of suffering from an out of control daddy complex? Would the world be a different place?

Recently I've re-discovered some stuff that interested me when I was a younger man: Dr. David Bohm and his holographic view of how the universe works. I know this is not the specific place for this topic, but not long ago I came upon a question that Bohm asked in one of his seminars before he died:

"Does the thinker create thought, or does thought create the thinker?"

Much like some of my discoveries in the murder of President Kennedy, this simple question has turned my world upside down. If thought creates the thinker, as Bohm suggests, the world cracks open and nothing is as it seems.

There is a great mystery that goes on all around us. Most of the time, most of us are asleep to it. I think there's a fear even in the consideration of simple questions that we will be jarred from the comfort of our slumber. For me, one of those basic questions was about the murder of President Kennedy. The consideration of it I have carried for almost three decades now.

And, I know up ahead and around the bend, the road will curve and continue much farther than I can currently imagine or see.

Thanks Charles for remembering me and to all those that have helped make this forum what it is, administrators and posters alike.

"My, Crash. You do love to make speeches..."

"It's been quite a party, ain't it, Woodrow?"

[Michael Griffin]

Hi All.

About a year ago on the Education Forum, Thomas Graves posted another .gif of a brief portion of the parking lot activity as seen in the Hughes Film. He had cropped the film so as to focus on 'tan jacket man' and 'blue coated guy." When viewed in that manner, it appeared to many, including myself, that as 'tan jacket man' spins to his right and brushes past 'blue coated guy,' he is surreptitiously using his left hand to pass something to 'blue coated guy.' I wish I had the computer know-how to just post that . gif, but being technologically challenged, providing a link to that thread and .gif is the best I can do.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18446&hl="tan+jacket+man"

In addition to post #1, please also notice the excellent, larger .gif provided by Greg Burnham in post #25.

BTW, to Charles and the others who make this forum possible, I don't post as often as I maybe should, but I really appreciate this forum.

Mike