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Al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden 'dead'. Again.
#91
Albert Doyle Wrote:Why would they do something so dumb as make fake pictures obviously taken directly from 10 year old photos of Bin Laden?

Charlotte Iserbyt would know. Most people aren't paying attention, don't dig deeper, don't and can't comprehend, aren't detailed-oriented, don't verify what they've been told, are over-saturated with media propaganda and media diversion, and are simply reacting psychologically with the lower parts of their triune brain. They go along to get along. The ones who don't fit into that category come to web sites like this one to be better discerning, and more sentient, beings; they are often described in pejorative terms and become the focus of the power of the state through surveillance or intimidation or even violence.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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#92
From http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other-wor...e-1.802539

Compound in Pakistan was once a safe house

House was not owned by the government and had been rented by Afghan nationals, intelligence official says
  • By Ashfaq Ahmed, Chief Reporter
  • Published: 00:00 May 3, 2011
[Image: 665601501.jpg]
  • Image Credit: AP
  • Soldiers of Pakistan Army seen near the house in Abbottabad on Tuesday where Osama Bin Laden was believed to have been residing. The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary. It has 12-to-18-foot outer walls, topped with barbed wire fencing.

Dubai: The compound in Abbottabad where Osama Bin Laden was killed was once used as a safe house by Pakistan's premier intelligence agency ISI, Gulf News has learnt.
"This area had been used as ISI's safe house, but it was not under their use any more because they keep on changing their locations," a senior intelligence official confided to Gulf News. However, he did not reveal when and for how long it was used by the ISI operatives. Another official cautiously said "it may not be the same house but the same compound or area used by the ISI".
The official also confirmed that the house was rented out by Afghan nationals and is not owned by the government. The house is located just 800 metres away from the Pakistan Military Academy and some former senior military officials live nearby.
Abbottabad is a garrison town located just 50 kilometres north of Islamabad and it is a popular summer resort, originally built by the British during colonial rule. The city houses a number of upscale educational institutions and religious schools as well.
Secluded affluence
According to the briefing by senior US officials on the killing of Bin Laden, the area is relatively affluent, with lots of retired military staff. It is also insulated from the natural disasters and terrorist attacks that have afflicted other parts of Pakistan an extraordinarily unique compound. The compound sits on a large plot of land in an area that was relatively secluded when it was built. It is roughly eight times larger than nearby homes.
The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary.
It has 12-to-18-foot outer walls, topped with barbed wires. Internal walls sectioned off different portions of the compound to provide extra privacy.
Access to the compound is restricted by two security gates and the residents of the compound burnt their trash, unlike their neighbours, who put the trash out for collection.
The property is valued at approximately $1 million (Dh3.67 million), but has no telephone or Internet connection.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#93
Magda Hassan Wrote:So we get photos of Obama and the gang watching the raid as it unfolded but we don't get to watch it ourselves? The revolution will not be televised.
To me this looks like people watching the high priest sacrifice a virgin, or some such ritualistic murder.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#94
Dawn Meredith Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Dead? Again? I wonder whose body they'll use? Maybe he's been in the deep freezer until needed. Maybe they'll use a double. Maybe they'll have tiny pieces of something. In any case just another side show. :pinkelephant:
Really. They have photos but press is saying they are not recognized as OBL. We're just supposed to believe that they made a DNA match this fast.
This also happened just after they killed an innocent son and grandchildren...
Dawn

Hmmm....Very good point...and one I overlooked....I will check, but I do believe it takes longer to do a DNA match than was possible!!!!! Pirate
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#95
On the internet I see 3-5 days for DNA matching...but even if they did it 'pronto', say 2-3 days...they apparently did it in less than one.....or didn't do it at all [most likely!]
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#96
It turns out Obama, Clinton, and all the other top officials were WATCHING via webcam the murder of OBL in real time on a wall-size screen [with sound]! Think about it..... Hitler SICK!!!!!!!!:joystick: Remember, the instructions were to murder, not capture [and try in Court] OBL...and Obama calls this 'Justice'.....Justice American Style....now....[kill first, ask questions and hold trial later]. Obama has also declared Manning guilty....we can do away with the judicial system now....we just 'do' 'justice' by fiat......the default verdict is guilty, and the most common sentence is summary execution. Pirate The undignified, in fact disgusting and disrespectful, [not to mention suspicious!] disposal of the body shows how coldhearted, arrogant, and hateful the Empire has become.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#97
Here is a link to the TV episode that the warmongers in Washington watched live!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ve-TV.html

Let's just hope that the blowback does not include a nuclear detonation in your neighborhood.
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#98
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:From http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other-wor...e-1.802539

Compound in Pakistan was once a safe house

House was not owned by the government and had been rented by Afghan nationals, intelligence official says
  • By Ashfaq Ahmed, Chief Reporter
  • Published: 00:00 May 3, 2011
[Image: 665601501.jpg]
  • Image Credit: AP
  • Soldiers of Pakistan Army seen near the house in Abbottabad on Tuesday where Osama Bin Laden was believed to have been residing. The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary. It has 12-to-18-foot outer walls, topped with barbed wire fencing.

Dubai: The compound in Abbottabad where Osama Bin Laden was killed was once used as a safe house by Pakistan's premier intelligence agency ISI, Gulf News has learnt.
"This area had been used as ISI's safe house, but it was not under their use any more because they keep on changing their locations," a senior intelligence official confided to Gulf News. However, he did not reveal when and for how long it was used by the ISI operatives. Another official cautiously said "it may not be the same house but the same compound or area used by the ISI".
The official also confirmed that the house was rented out by Afghan nationals and is not owned by the government. The house is located just 800 metres away from the Pakistan Military Academy and some former senior military officials live nearby.
Abbottabad is a garrison town located just 50 kilometres north of Islamabad and it is a popular summer resort, originally built by the British during colonial rule. The city houses a number of upscale educational institutions and religious schools as well.
Secluded affluence
According to the briefing by senior US officials on the killing of Bin Laden, the area is relatively affluent, with lots of retired military staff. It is also insulated from the natural disasters and terrorist attacks that have afflicted other parts of Pakistan an extraordinarily unique compound. The compound sits on a large plot of land in an area that was relatively secluded when it was built. It is roughly eight times larger than nearby homes.
The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary.
It has 12-to-18-foot outer walls, topped with barbed wires. Internal walls sectioned off different portions of the compound to provide extra privacy.
Access to the compound is restricted by two security gates and the residents of the compound burnt their trash, unlike their neighbours, who put the trash out for collection.
The property is valued at approximately $1 million (Dh3.67 million), but has no telephone or Internet connection.

Note the high [3m] walls and barbed-wire on top....more like a prison, than a home. The Pakistani intelligence, which had a HUGE presence in that town and trained many of its operatives just down the street, must have know all along OBL was there....if they didn't put him there themselves. I wonder if we'll ever get a straight story.....doubt it. Why OBL was murdered rather than stand trial is more than obvious - except to most American Sheeple....it would have proven deadly embarrassing to the US and other governments about everything from the resistance to the Soviets in Afghanistan, to the Saudis, to the Bush family, to 911 and so many, many other operations in which the 'terrorist' was our terrorist and had many connections to western and middle-eastern intelligence operations and persons.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#99
The cover-up, or concealment of evidence continues..

[size=12]02 May 2011 - AP - 911blogger
[URL="http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-02/destruction-911-evidence-continues-bin-laden-body-dumped-sea"]Destruction of 9/11 Evidence Continues;
Bin Laden Body Dumped at Sea[/URL]
[/SIZE]
'According to an AP press release and a CNN blog update it is being reported that the body of Usama Bin Laden has been dumped at sea in accordance with Islamic tradition.
The quick disposal of the body of Bin Laden is an amazing display of disregard to the situation, though disposal of evidence and 9/11 seem to be synonymous.'
From the AP:
A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea.
After bin Laden was killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Pakistan, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the U.S. decided to bury him at sea.
The official, who spoke Monday on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive national security matters, did not immediately say where that occurred.
From the CNN blog (12:22 AM ET):
Osama bin Laden's body was buried at sea according to Islamic law because no country was willing or able to take his body for burial on land, senior Defense officials said.
"When there is no land alternative, Islamic law dictates that the body be buried within 24 hours, and that was the basis," one official said. "
A second senior Defense official said there was no country willing or able to accept the body for burial, and U.S. forces "took pains to observe Muslim law."
"Today's religious rites were conducted on the deck of the USS Carl Vinson in the Arabian sea. The ceremony started at 1:10am and finished at 2:10am ET," the second official said. "Procedures for Islamic body were followed. The body was washed and placed in a white sheet. A military official read prepared remarks, which were then translated into Arabic by a native speaker. The body of Osama bin Laden was placed on a flat board, which was then tipped up, and allowed to slide into the sea."
Now lets remember this very important fact:

That report is from 2006. The FBI still has "no evidence" directly linking Bin Laden to 9/11 and that brings up the question, " on what grounds was this operation ordered?"
In his announcement last night of Bin Laden's death, Obama stated that Osama was responsible for nearly 3,000 deaths. This is not the first case of guilty-before-innocent mentality by Obama, as witnessed by a recent question to him about Bradley Manning.
Looking at the FBI webpage today I find that they have updated his profile to "deceased", yet there is still NO mention of 9/11. (Disclaimer: this links to the FBI web-page for Bin Laden)
It is worth noting the 2010 story about the FBI using a Spanish lawmakers web-photo as a "Bin Laden 10 years later" photo. Worth noting so we remember the level of credibilty that officials have in regards to Usama Bin Laden and the war on terror in general.

The news of Bin Laden being killed is unlikely to help or soothe these 9/11 family members:

Videos and more at post:
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-02/de...dumped-sea


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Albert Doyle Wrote:Why would they do something so dumb as make fake pictures obviously taken directly from 10 year old photos of Bin Laden?

It depends on who "they" are. One thing I've noticed about the press lately is that they've gotten really really lazy. One of them digs up a photoshopped image on the net and the rest pile on so as not to be scooped by the other guys. It might be interesting to track where this image first appeared, if someone has a whole lot of time to kill. We might even manage to figure out who "they" are after all.

Something I've also noticed lately is that there is a certain segment of the press that grew up without the internet and still does not understand the ease with which this kind of fraud can be "busted." It's not "dumb" so much as ignorant.
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