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Michael Piper and Final Judgment
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Greg Burnham Wrote:Claiming that Israelis assassinated Kennedy is like claiming Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated Kennedy. Can you spell patsy, Mark? I knew you could.



No, that's too easy Greg. There's a reason why DiEugenio did a harsh review of Mary's Mosaic but never touched Final Judgment, and it isn't because Piper's sources and facts weren't credible.



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The reason I did not review that book is because in those days we did not review books at Probe, which was a paper magazine at the time.

But even if we did do reviews back then I would not review it since the book is anti Semitic nonsense that is about as credible as Angleton and the Majestic Papers.

And IMO, Rago's mission is to try and indoctrinate enough people with this nonsense to make us look like fools next year.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:And IMO, Rago's mission is to try and indoctrinate enough people with this nonsense to make us look like fools next year.

Yup.
Charles Drago Wrote:
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:And IMO, Rago's mission is to try and indoctrinate enough people with this nonsense to make us look like fools next year.

Yup.

Yep.
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"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
But even if we did do reviews back then I would not review it since the book is anti Semitic nonsense that is about as credible as Angleton and the Majestic Papers.

And IMO, Rago's mission is to try and indoctrinate enough people with this nonsense to make us look like fools next year.

Morrow continues the work of Zirbel, McClellan, Nelson and now North--look over there! It's Lyndon Johnson!

Rago, Piper et al do the same for Israel, Zionists, Mossad, et cetera.

To distract and disrupt, to disinform and demean, and most importantly, to reduce the stature of persistent seekers of truth.

To continue, Hersh and the Larry Flynt contingent are joined by the new generation focusing on Mary Meyer (sex, drugs and detente), Marilyn Monroe (everyone's favorite), Exner-as-Giancana-conduit, in sum, we puritans are happy the witch was burned; case closed.

And so on and so forth--

--but (that little word)--

--I posit they don't get away with it.

In the confluence of Occupy and Tea Party, in the mad-as-hell Network, the fiftieth cruises by with a flash of knowing signs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rrsj_auEKs


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It's like an echo chamber in here. No, heaven forbid Israel would never do that. It's just anti-semitic nonsense etc etc.

Give me a break please. We all know what Israel has been doing for decades: dispossession and genocide, murder of humanitarian aid workers, covert assassinations, numerous invasions and air strikes on their neighbours, attacking and murdering the occupants of foreign vessels like the Liberty and the Mavi Mara, trade in body parts, illegal development of nuclear weapons, theft of nuclear materials, poisoning Palestinians' water supply, the longest illegal occupation in modern history, corruption and capture of Western Governments (most notably the US), control of the western media. I could go on for hours.

But God forbid anyone dare accuse Israel of participating in JFK's murder. That's outrageous, preposterous, absurd, anti-semitic etc etc. Anyone who dares to mention Israel's name in connection with Dealey Plaza is branded a lunatic, a quack, a fraud, a Nazi, an evil troll. The sanctimonious indignation would be funny if it wasn't so sad. The Spanish inquisition has nothing on some of you 'researchers'.

And the evidence barely warrants a passing glance.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Give me a break please. We all know what Israel has been doing for decades: dispossession and genocide, murder of humanitarian aid workers, covert assassinations, numerous invasions and air strikes on their neighbours, attacking and murdering the occupants of foreign vessels like the Liberty and the Mavi Mara, trade in body parts, illegal development of nuclear weapons, theft of nuclear materials, poisoning Palestinians' water supply, the longest illegal occupation in modern history, corruption ....
Yep. Yep. Totally agree. And who let's this continue? And who doesn't let others even get started?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Give me a break please. We all know what Israel has been doing for decades: dispossession and genocide, murder of humanitarian aid workers, covert assassinations, numerous invasions and air strikes on their neighbours, attacking and murdering the occupants of foreign vessels like the Liberty and the Mavi Mara, trade in body parts, illegal development of nuclear weapons, theft of nuclear materials, poisoning Palestinians' water supply, the longest illegal occupation in modern history, corruption ....
Yep. Yep. Totally agree. And who let's this continue? And who doesn't let others even get started?

So, if I'm reading your post right, you know Israel has done all these things but you want to blame.....somebody else.

Is that it?
Here's "Rago" opening the kimono:

"Yes I do think that Oswald was a 'patsy' and an assassin. He probably thought that he was the only assassin. I think he was a willing participant. I do not think that he knew about the other assassins."

"Rago" is a self-admitted ignoramus ("he" celebrates the claim that "he" does not read literary analyses of the assassination). "His" techniques of flooding Internet forums with confrontational -- as opposed to informational -- material, hiding behind aliases, and attempting to establish credentials as a bona fide researcher and then putting forward outlandish theories so as to impugn the minds and motives of the larger research community are those of the agent provocateur.

Are you so desperate, Mark, to find support for your own hypotheses that you run to the arms of the likes of "Rago"?

Who's next? Robert "The Wondrous Wanker" Morrow?
[quote=Charles Drago]Here's "Rago" opening the kimono:

"Yes I do think that Oswald was a 'patsy' and an assassin. He probably thought that he was the only assassin. I think he was a willing participant. I do not think that he knew about the other assassins."

"Rago" is a self-admitted ignoramus ("he" celebrates the claim that "he" does not read literary analyses of the assassination). "His" techniques of flooding Internet forums with confrontational -- as opposed to informational -- material, hiding behind aliases, and attempting to establish credentials as a bona fide researcher and then putting forward outlandish theories so as to impugn the minds and motives of the larger research community are those of the agent provocateur.

Are you so desperate, Mark, to find support for your own hypotheses that you run to the arms of the likes of "Rago"?

Who's next? Robert "The Wondrous Wanker" Morrow? Ralph "Kitchen" Cinque? Philip "Master(mind)bater" Nelson?
Charles Drago Wrote:[quote=Charles Drago]Here's "Rago" opening the kimono:

"Yes I do think that Oswald was a 'patsy' and an assassin. He probably thought that he was the only assassin. I think he was a willing participant. I do not think that he knew about the other assassin

I can see someone new to the JFK case saying that. Maybe he was drunk.

I still think he makes some good posts.


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