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Chris Macleod Wrote:Tracy Riddle Wrote:Chris, the world isn't run by one group of people. There are numerous groups who sometimes compete, sometimes cooperate, sometimes kill each other. The US alone has several factions among the Elite, though these groups are increasingly multi-national in their operations.
Terms like "New World Order" and "Illuminati" are a kind of shorthand for people who don't want to do deal with the messy complexities of how the world actually works.
in your opinion you mean. with zero evidence supplied. Terms like new world order and illuminati refer to real groups of people who actually exist, of that there is no doubt, the only doubt is the extent of their influence and what their ultimate intentions are. Their existence is a matter of historical record. I don't think you know a great deal about how the world actually works, and to suggest those two groups existence and activities are in any way simple is ridiculous.
OK dude. Why are you here and what exactly is your agenda?
Personally speaking I have had enough of your bs.
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Chris Macleod Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Chris I know you are new here but this is not a kindergarten. There are other forums for that. Maybe more reading and learning before you start using unhelpful phrases like NWO. A better standard of intellectual rigour is expected here and cliches like NWO and illuminati etc won't cut it.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but NWO and illuminati are far from cliches and are infact very very real. since you patronise me I will do the same to you, cliche isn't even the right word there, but anyway they are very real, you might want to ask henry kissinger or john kerry who spoke about them very recently. you want a better standard of intellectual rigour you might want to open your eyes then as ignorance like that will not deliver what you seek.
Do you always piss on the host when first visiting a home?
Dawn
if I am insulted and patronised I respond in kind, especially if the person doing it is talking absolute rubbish
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Chris Macleod Wrote:Tracy Riddle Wrote:Chris, the world isn't run by one group of people. There are numerous groups who sometimes compete, sometimes cooperate, sometimes kill each other. The US alone has several factions among the Elite, though these groups are increasingly multi-national in their operations.
Terms like "New World Order" and "Illuminati" are a kind of shorthand for people who don't want to do deal with the messy complexities of how the world actually works.
in your opinion you mean. with zero evidence supplied. Terms like new world order and illuminati refer to real groups of people who actually exist, of that there is no doubt, the only doubt is the extent of their influence and what their ultimate intentions are. Their existence is a matter of historical record. I don't think you know a great deal about how the world actually works, and to suggest those two groups existence and activities are in any way simple is ridiculous.
OK dude. Why are you here and what exactly is your agenda?
Personally speaking I have had enough of your bs.
Dawn
why would I care what you've had enough of?
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If it acts like a troll, it probably is a troll.
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It's interesting to ponder that the new world order is just the old world order transformed into a new form with different borders and definitions.
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And two very different writing styles.......::facepalm::
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:If it acts like a troll, it probably is a troll.
Agreed.
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Tracy Riddle Wrote:If it acts like a troll, it probably is a troll.
Agreed.
Dawn
I don't know what planet you people are from where a troll means something else, here on earth if someone insults and patronises you like magda or whatever did in her reply to me you are entitled to do it back. here it seems to get you in pre-mod with no explanation or justification and having broke zero rules.
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Problem fixed.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:...more than around the block 'a few times'..... No one group of any name pulled off the JFK Assassination, IMO, after decades of research and reading. It was a coalition of mutual interests and benefits. Such simplistic terms as 'NWO' to explain such a complex event is, just that, simplistic. It is either done out of naivete, or [not saying in this case] similar are often done to discredit a Forum. Beware the 22nd of November is upon us and all sorts of interesting things are coming fore.....
The terms such as 'NWO' are so nebulous, no one has / no one can have any idea[s] as to who [persons or entities] is/are/were involved. Mostly, such nebulous terms are used and spread as disinformation to make real researchers look silly, IMO.
Please, newbees, this is a small and an advanced forum. Newbees are welcome here. Sunstein agents are not. [if you don't know what is meant here, look on the internet or ask]. Take some time to look around at posts on the topic[s] you plan to post upon, and be as specific and instructional as possible - not just plunging in without seeing if there is any 'water' in your 'pool'. I hadn't heard of the NWO before tis thread(not withstanding GHW's quote at the fall of the Soviet Union. But in what way is it a more simplistic notion than "the Sponsors"? Has any one described them other than in nebulous terms?
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