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Well, it has begun. Lancer is starting as I write this. COPA tomorrow. I know COPA will be broadcast live; anyone know if Lancer will be at any time available? What about the Wecht Conference - still not available? One wonders if these groups really want to just 'talk shop' or spread the word far and wide......
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It would do my heart good to hear a crowd of 300,000 stormed the Plaza and let the powers that be know what they thought about their little Dealey Plaza members only party.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:It would do my heart good to hear a crowd of 300,000 stormed the Plaza and let the powers that be know what they thought about their little Dealey Plaza members only party.
For those of you who don't know, I'm in very involuntary exile in Europe. What should happen, if there were any sanity and justice in Amerika - though I know there isn't, yet - would be 300,000,000 Americans descending on DP, to take their country BACK!.....but I know and we all know this won't happen...not this year...perhaps not ever...and I think, IMHO, we have only 10 or less years left to do so. Were it to happen, I'd return, as the evolution would have begun........
Hats off to J. Judge who got permission for COPA to be escorted by the DPD to DP at 14:30 for their moment of silence...but, really, there should be the entire country in DP at 12:30 for their 'moment' OF RAGE and OUTRAGE! Without any disrespect to J. Judge and others [who I respect greatly!], this really is a black-face shuffle, [not an upright walk of dignity to honor JFK's memory!] As MLK said, stand up straight, for if your back isn't bent, they can't ride it!
I am the ONLY individual ever to have been granted a parade permit for DP [on the 30th]. It was undermined by DeE. and others...but I went ahead. Marina, who was originally to speak in person, chickened-out, but gave me a very dynamic and important letter to read in her name. Penn Jones spoke at length -and it sadly was the last public speech he ever gave. Others spoke, even though I had been blacklisted by many prominent researchers [who cancelled at the last moment] - primarily due to DeE and others affiliated with him...for reasons unknown, but surely unjust. I paid for the permit and expensive sound system out of my own pocket. We walked the route of the motorcade and then approached the podium and sound system I paid for on the N. GK. Many persons unknown to the research community - ordinary citizens - spoke with passion. I read my 100 questions re: the JFK Assassination and let other speak. At the time I had had my bank accounts frozen and had very little money. The money in those accounts [very substantial] were never to be returned. Too long a story for here and for now. I spent the last of my fortune on that 30th parade permit and event. Then, soon after, I left America for Europe - although I have revisited a few times.
I'm in a state of permanent rage and outrage...it began about the time of Dallas and has only increased since; with 9-11 it went into hyperdrive.
I love my country!
Yet,
I fear and even loathe my [secret] 'government'!
[they killed the best we had at every level - and even at the metaphysical levels]...and they are not done yet! We either stop them; or they destroy us.
It really is THAT simple!
Let America be America Again
LANGSTON HUGHES 1938
Originally published in Esquire and in the International Worker Order pamphlet A New Song (1938)
Let America be America again. Let it be the dream it used to be. Let it be the pioneer on the plain Seeking a home where he himself is free.
(America never was America to me.)
Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed-- Let it be that great strong land of love Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme That any man be crushed by one above.
(It never was America to me.)
O, let my land be a land where Liberty Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath, But opportunity is real, and life is free, Equality is in the air we breathe.
(There's never been equality for me, Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")
Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark? And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?
I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart, I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars. I am the red man driven from the land, I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek-- And finding only the same old stupid plan Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.
I am the young man, full of strength and hope, Tangled in that ancient endless chain Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land! Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need! Of work the men! Of take the pay! Of owning everything for one's own greed!
I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil. I am the worker sold to the machine. I am the Negro, servant to you all. I am the people, humble, hungry, mean-- Hungry yet today despite the dream. Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers! I am the man who never got ahead, The poorest worker bartered through the years.
Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream In the Old World while still a serf of kings, Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true, That even yet its mighty daring sings In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned That's made America the land it has become. O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas In search of what I meant to be my home-- For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore, And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea, And torn from Black Africa's strand I came To build a "homeland of the free."
The free?
Who said the free? Not me? Surely not me? The millions on relief today? The millions shot down when we strike? The millions who have nothing for our pay? For all the dreams we've dreamed And all the songs we've sung And all the hopes we've held And all the flags we've hung, The millions who have nothing for our pay-- Except the dream that's almost dead today.
O, let America be America again-- The land that never has been yet-- And yet must be--the land where every man is free. The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME-- Who made America, Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain, Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain, Must bring back our mighty dream again.
Sure, call me any ugly name you choose-- The steel of freedom does not stain. From those who live like leeches on the people's lives, We must take back our land again, America!
O, yes, I say it plain, America never was America to me, And yet I swear this oath-- America will be!
Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death, The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies, We, the people, must redeem The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers. The mountains and the endless plain-- All, all the stretch of these great green states-- And make America again!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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I know many people don't like him, but Alex Jones is a huge presence in the Plaza today, and will be front and center tomorrow. He has passed out 30,000 posters saying "They killed JFK 50 years ago and they're killing free speech today." Just saw a great interview he did with Robert Groden in the Plaza. He also bull horned the mainstream journalists gathered there, shouting out "we're not going to accept the lie that Oswald killed JFK," and rightly accusing them of being corporate whores. You can catch him live from there today, on his Prison Planet TV, with lots of great footage and interviews.
Just passing this along to those who may be interested.
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Don Jeffries Wrote:I know many people don't like him, but Alex Jones is a huge presence in the Plaza today, and will be front and center tomorrow. He has passed out 30,000 posters saying "They killed JFK 50 years ago and they're killing free speech today." Just saw a great interview he did with Robert Groden in the Plaza. He also bull horned the mainstream journalists gathered there, shouting out "we're not going to accept the lie that Oswald killed JFK," and rightly accusing them of being corporate whores. You can catch him live from there today, on his Prison Planet TV, with lots of great footage and interviews.
Just passing this along to those who may be interested.
I'd call him a 'useful libertarian-idiot' for those true progressives and radicals who know a bit better/more [and more correctly] than he does. He ain't all bad, not at all. If he can help bring down the barricades in DP, my hats off to him....it will take many of us, with differing ideas of what is wrong with America to defeat what is wrong with America. If we can agree that something has long been deadly wrong - and is getting worse and fast.....then I'm all for working with him/her/them, in theory - unless they are neo-fascists.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:It would do my heart good to hear a crowd of 300,000 stormed the Plaza and let the powers that be know what they thought about their little Dealey Plaza members only party.
For those of you who don't know, I'm in very involuntary exile in Europe. What should happen, if there were any sanity and justice in Amerika - though I know there isn't, yet - would be 300,000,000 Americans descending on DP, to take their country BACK!.....but I know and we all know this won't happen...not this year...perhaps not ever...and I think, IMHO, we have only 10 or less years left to do so. Were it to happen, I'd return, as the evolution would have begun........
Hats off to J. Judge who got permission for COPA to be escorted by the DPD to DP at 14:30 for their moment of silence...but, really, there should be the entire country in DP at 12:30 for their 'moment' OF RAGE and OUTRAGE! Without any disrespect to J. Judge and others [who I respect greatly!], this really is a black-face shuffle, [not an upright walk of dignity to honor JFK's memory!] As MLK said, stand up straight, for if your back isn't bent, they can't ride it!
I am the ONLY individual ever to have been granted a parade permit for DP [on the 30th]. It was undermined by DeE. and others...but I went ahead. Marina, who was originally to speak in person, chickened-out, but gave me a very dynamic and important letter to read in her name. Penn Jones spoke at length -and it sadly was the last public speech he ever gave. Others spoke, even though I had been blacklisted by many prominent researchers [who cancelled at the last moment] - primarily due to DeE and others affiliated with him...for reasons unknown, but surely unjust. I paid for the permit and expensive sound system out of my own pocket. We walked the route of the motorcade and then approached the podium and sound system I paid for on the N. GK. Many persons unknown to the research community - ordinary citizens - spoke with passion. I read my 100 questions re: the JFK Assassination and let other speak. At the time I had had my bank accounts frozen and had very little money. The money in those accounts [very substantial] were never to be returned. Too long a story for here and for now. I spent the last of my fortune on that 30th parade permit and event. Then, soon after, I left America for Europe - although I have revisited a few times.
I'm in a state of permanent rage and outrage...it began about the time of Dallas and has only increased since; with 9-11 it went into hyperdrive.
I love my country!
Yet,
I fear and even loathe my [secret] 'government'!
[they killed the best we had at every level - and even at the metaphysical levels]...and they are not done yet! We either stop them; or they destroy us.
It really is THAT simple!
Let America be America Again
LANGSTON HUGHES 1938
Originally published in Esquire and in the International Worker Order pamphlet A New Song (1938)
Let America be America again. Let it be the dream it used to be. Let it be the pioneer on the plain Seeking a home where he himself is free.
(America never was America to me.)
Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed-- Let it be that great strong land of love Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme That any man be crushed by one above.
(It never was America to me.)
O, let my land be a land where Liberty Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath, But opportunity is real, and life is free, Equality is in the air we breathe.
(There's never been equality for me, Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")
Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark? And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?
I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart, I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars. I am the red man driven from the land, I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek-- And finding only the same old stupid plan Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.
I am the young man, full of strength and hope, Tangled in that ancient endless chain Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land! Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need! Of work the men! Of take the pay! Of owning everything for one's own greed!
I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil. I am the worker sold to the machine. I am the Negro, servant to you all. I am the people, humble, hungry, mean-- Hungry yet today despite the dream. Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers! I am the man who never got ahead, The poorest worker bartered through the years.
Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream In the Old World while still a serf of kings, Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true, That even yet its mighty daring sings In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned That's made America the land it has become. O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas In search of what I meant to be my home-- For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore, And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea, And torn from Black Africa's strand I came To build a "homeland of the free."
The free?
Who said the free? Not me? Surely not me? The millions on relief today? The millions shot down when we strike? The millions who have nothing for our pay? For all the dreams we've dreamed And all the songs we've sung And all the hopes we've held And all the flags we've hung, The millions who have nothing for our pay-- Except the dream that's almost dead today.
O, let America be America again-- The land that never has been yet-- And yet must be--the land where every man is free. The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME-- Who made America, Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain, Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain, Must bring back our mighty dream again.
Sure, call me any ugly name you choose-- The steel of freedom does not stain. From those who live like leeches on the people's lives, We must take back our land again, America!
O, yes, I say it plain, America never was America to me, And yet I swear this oath-- America will be!
Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death, The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies, We, the people, must redeem The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers. The mountains and the endless plain-- All, all the stretch of these great green states-- And make America again!
Thank you Peter. So beautiful, so sad, so true.
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Watch these live via internet here
http://politicalassassinations.com/2013/...ence-2013/
FIFTY YEARS IS ENOUGH!
FREE THE FILES FIND THE TRUTH
COPA is currently planning our 20th annual conference in Dallas which will mark the 50th anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy and the 45th anniversaries of the murders of Robert F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King.
Among the confirmed speakers are Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, JD, MD (our founding president), Mark Lane, Peter Dale Scott, Anthony Summers, Richard Belzer and Dr. Ernst Titovets (Oswald's best friend).
Also, Dr. Gary Aguilar, John Armstrong, Robert Groden, Abraham Bolden, William Turner, Dick Russell, Russ Baker, Joan Mellen, Daniel Sheehan, Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, David Montague, PhD (ARRB staff), Rex Bradford, Dr. Joseph Palermo, David Starks, Baba Zak Kondo, Jack Colhoun, Bill Kelly, Bill Simpich, Andrew Kiel, Chris Pike, Greg Burnham, Joseph McBride, Stan Weeber, Wayne Smith, Ben Rogers, Bill Holiday, Mel Barney, Randy Benson. John Judge and others. Please plan to join us for our most important conference to date.
The conference will run from Friday, November 22, 2:00 pm to 1:00 pm Sunday afternoon November 24.
COPA 2013 BROADCAST SCHEDULE
Nov 22, Friday
12:30 pm Moment of Silence, Market and Main Streets
2:30 pm Moment of Silence, Grassy Knoll, Dealey Plaza
COPA SPEAKERS
Friday, November 22
7:00 7:15 pm Introductory remarks John Judge
[B] [B]7:15 10:30 pm KEYNOTE SPEAKERS
Cyril Wecht, JD, MD, Passing the Torch
Mark Lane, Atty., The Secret Service and the Assassination of President Kennedy
Richard Belzer, Hit List: Mysterious Deaths of Witnesses to the JFK Assassination
Anthony Summers, Not in Your Lifetime
Saturday, November 23
9:00 10:15 am History, Evidence, Media
Robert Groden, Absolute Proof: New Photographic Evidence
Dave Starks, 50 Years of US Media Lone Assassin Propaganda
Jack Colhoun, Jack Ruby's Ties to the Tropicana and Gangsterismo in Cuba
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
10:15 11:30 am Oswald, Plot, Records
Ernst Titovets, Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Dick Russell, "The Man Who Knew Too Much," Richard Nagell Revisited
Gary Aguilar, Junk Science in the Kennedy Case
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
11:30 am 12:30 pm LUNCH
12:30 1:45 pm Plot and Suspects
Danny Sheehan, Rulers of the Realm: "The Wise Men" The Assassins of President John F. Kennedy
Bill Simpich, Working Towards the Mexico City Solution
Stan Weeber, The Denton Connection: An Update
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
1:45 3:00 pm Evidence and Suspects
Mel Barney, Jack Ruby's U.S. Government Connection Exposed
Gary Aguilar The Magic Bullet Even More Magical Than We Knew
Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics and the JFK Assassination
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
3:00 4:15 pm Historical Context
Joan Mellen, Updating "A Farewell To Justice" and the Garrison Investigation
Wayne Smith, JAMA Knows Best: Unassailable Facts About the Autopsy
William Turner, The Cuban Connection: Nixon, Castro and the Mob
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
4:15 5:30 pm Plot and Suspects
Greg Burnham, Sabotage at the Bay of Pigs: A Revolution of Mind
Russ Baker, New Clarity on George HW Bush and Dallas
Andrew Kiel, J Edgar Hoover, the FBI, the CIA and the JFK Assassination
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
5:30 pm 7:00 pm DINNER
7:00 8:30 pm Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, Malcolm X
Cynthia McKinney, COINTELPRO
John Judge, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert F. Kennedy History Repeats Itself
Joseph Palermo, Robert F. Kennedy and the Assassination of JFK: A Political Odyssey
Baba Zak Kondo, The Assassination of Malcolm X
20 minutes each, 10 at end for questions
8:30 9:00 pm A testimonial from a former ARRB staffer
David Montague, The importance of the research community in assisting the ARRB
20 minutes, 10 at end for questions
9:00 9:30 pm Educating Youth
Bill Holiday, Teaching the JFK Assassination
20 minutes, 10 at end for questions
9:30 pm Premiere showing of The Searchers, Randy Benson introduction
Sunday, November 24
9:00 10:15 am Records and Archives
Bill Kelly, Air Force One Tapes November 22, 1963
Rex Bradford, JFK Records at 50: The Takeaway. What's in Them and What's Not?
Ben Rogers, What's New in the Poage Library JFK Archives?
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
10:15 11:30 am Other Suspects
Abraham Bolden, Moving Forward JFK and the Secret Service
Joseph McBride, The Murder of Officer J. D. Tippit
John Armstrong, Tippit Shooting, Harvey and Lee (Dawn Meredith)
20 minutes each, 15 at end for questions
11:30 am 12:00 pm Penn Jones
Chris Pike, Penn Jones vs National Media: Amend the First Amendment?
20 minutes, 10 at end for questions
12:00 pm 1:00 pm John Judge Why It Matters and What Must Be Done
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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from the Dallas Morning News website, November 22, 2013:
ENTERTAINMENT
The top 10 non-JFK things to do this weekend
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I have to admit to being a a tad upset that last nights opening COPA talks are not on the internet or the COPA site. I hope the talks today and tomorrow will be live, and that the talks from last night appear soon. : : HERE http://politicalassassinations.com/2013/...ence-2013/
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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