Core of Corruption series cancelled

[Magda Hassan]

Thanks for this Anthony. Most interesting and I do hope that Jonathan can make more available in good time.

[David Guyatt]

I quite understand Anthony. If and when you can proceed, I'd be interested in hearing it.

That clip, for my money, was one of the finest of the entire film. On a par with Sutherland's "Mr. X" segment.

I have to be cryptic here for the moment. Jonathan Elinoff posted a short while ago on Facebook (after the above) that he was preparing to upload a video detailing Sullivan's crimes. I'm hoping that will appear sometime across the next week or so, or sooner. Equally, Jonathan mentioned to me that he had a book in preparation, and I'm curious to what extent this, and the video, will cover the various bits and pieces that he told me. Because if Jonathan takes the public conversation into certain areas in either the video, or the book, I can assume a safe light to discuss some additional info that he told me. Also, however, vice versa. His recommendations were very clear.

All that said it's very funny David has brought the conversation round to this area. In fact, when I saw the brief snippet of Dave's post, and Magda's reply, in the activity stream on the DPF main page, it brought me up short. Insofar in that I've wondered more than once if the conversation would go in this direction.

That said, this is a situation a little bit beyond the norm, and I can't be anything more than unhelpful for the time being. Elinoff is no Joe Pesci, but when I remember the phone call I had with him - long, lucid, naming names, the facts and assertions pouring out in a torrent, and long buried puzzle pieces hinting, hauntingly, at other deeper puzzles - the clip below comes to mind for a great many reasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ema7lfEAMk

[David Guyatt]

And in the interim - this is the 15 minute trailer for the abandoned ECHOES OF TREASON. It was marked as private two years ago, but is now back up. It highlights news footage, but not the newly shot material and interviews that Jonathan onetime posted screenshots of on his Facebook page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GReHupXbYiY

I've not seen this before so I found it very useful. Particularly the clip of the guy who revealed on camera that he knew "the guy who went into his broker in San Diego and said cash me out it's going down tomorrow" - then added, absolutely damningly I thought: "his brother works in the White House".

That says it all...

For what little it adds - not a lot - but prior to 911 I had been conducting a heck of a lot of research on a whole wad of documents and financial papers that I had been given by Peter Gosling, a former South African spook - and quite likely a double agent who had previously worked for General Marcus Wolff of the Stasi. Peter had somehow got into the private files of one Riian Stander formerly of Sth. African intelligence and latterly a freelancer working with a number of other former Sth. African spooks (Rolf van Rooyen for example), all of whom worked for "The Palace Group" of companies associated with Britain's leading private military contractors (MI6 cutouts). The documents, around 100-150 or so formed a segment of my Project Hammer research on so called High Yield Investment Programmes, which universally were said to be fake/scam financial activities, and which are accompanied by dire warnings from various authorities. I had reason to doubt the warnings - at least in some regards, and so set out investigating the subject over many years.

Amongst the Gosling papers were some that related to a San Diego broker named Gregory Serras who headed an outfit called Vanguard Capital that was conducting high yield programmes (an Argentinian "private placement) with Morgan Stanley & Co. Vanguard had also at one time been associated with Alex Brown who was then headed by Buzzy Krongard. And that really is how I came to check out Krongard, Alex Brown, Bankers Trust etc., as I tried to fit all these disparate pieces of this giant jigsaw puzzle together.

Then 911 and the put option story began to break. I told a a fairly small circle of people (what was then the cia-drugs-list run by Kris Millegan, now the publisher of Trine Day), about my finding as they related to the put options, Krongard and his move to No. 3 man at the Agency. It was from this information that Mike Ruppert wrote his piece about Krongard and the CIA/Alex Brown nexus. I contacted Mike and told him he had no right taking credit for my research (this was back in the day when I cared about such things) and that he should have done the right thing.

In any event, I was at the same time in contact with Leo Wanta for the information he had that appeared to relate to these High Yield Programmes, only later to learn he was an FBI and Treasury paid informant.

Additionally, there were some very interesting additional connections in the Gosling paperwork that related to a Saudi company called Saudifin (Saudi Finance) that was headquartered in Geneva and which, in turn, owned a controlling interest in Banque Al Saoudi via the Paris based holding company Saudi Arab Finance Company. As 911 aficionados will know, Banque Al Saoudi was the principal international financing vehicle of the Bin Laden family (according to a PBS Online "Frontline" story of 1999). Bq Al Saoudi would've collapsed into bankruptcy had it not been for the French central bank arranging for it to be rescued by Banque Indosuez (of which I can also write about quite a lot - but as with the foregoing, the significant Indosuez connection are in my Project Hammer Reloaded story). Both Bq. Al Saoudi and Indosuez were also jointly involved in a variety of middle eastern arms deals during the 1970's and 1980's.

For 911 follow the money, I say. And researchers might benefit from following South African trials too. It was at that time hidden to world view because of the sanctions imposed upon it, and nothing is more appealing to some that a black hole in which to work their dark wizardry.

As Joe Pesci said, it is a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma.

[David Guyatt]

The 'missing trailer taken offline was composed entirely of clips from the movie. It was sombre, enticing, and quite gripping. A link to that 'missing' trailer is still present at the bottom of the following link (it's the Youtube clip with a listed running time of 15 minutes, and features a shot of a religious ceremony at Ground Zero) but clicking on it marks it as private and unwatchable.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com.au/2012...eason.html

Anthony, I was absent for much of this debate and have come to it late, so please forgive me for this tardy interest.

I think the religious ceremony you refer to above is more of an occult ceremony and the people filing form the Eye of Horus don't they?

[David Guyatt]

Oaky, I've briefly got up to date on this thread. The entire thing stinks and reeks horribly.

VIP's blackmailed, maybe including Poppy Bush, paedophilia and child sex trafficking, drug trafficking and use and abuse, money, money and money scams and schemes all over the place. And if the hint about the religious ceremony at the 911 site is, as I am sure it is, an occult ceremony forming the Eye of Horus on the sacrificial ground, then the ushering in of a new aeon of utter darkness.

[David Guyatt]

I've previously posted elsewhere on this forum the below Youtube footage about the 911 religious ceremony, but am posting again for completeness:

[Lauren Johnson]

As much as S.K. Bain's book seems to be overdone, this video really clinches it for me. It certainly was an occult sacrifice.

[Drew Phipps]

I'm no expert on occult sacrifices, but didn't this even occur well after the tragedy of 9/11?
Wouldn't some sort of occult dedication of the event occur prior to, or contemporaneously with 9/11?


Seems this would have the same "religious" effect of, say, finding some roadkill and then wrapping it up and presenting it to your girlfriend.

[Lauren Johnson]

I'm no expert on occult sacrifices, but didn't this even occur well after the tragedy of 9/11?
Wouldn't some sort of occult dedication of the event occur prior to, or contemporaneously with 9/11?

This ritual takes place on 9/11/12.

Wouldn't some sort of occult dedication of the event occur prior to, or contemporaneously with 9/11?

Probably. S.K. Bain would say the construction of much of the WTC site would be the architectural preparation.

Seems this would have the same "religious" effect of, say, finding some roadkill and then wrapping it up and presenting it to your girlfriend.

Certainly. But even more it would be more like killing your daughter's pet kitten that she loves and doing it in front of her, and then celebrating the anniversary. I suspect that the occult meaning would be even worse -- a statement about the present and the future.

David, one more thing about your Eye of Horus comment which you probably intended, the people who can arrange something like this are not some goofy Satan worshipers. These people have the power to arrange something like this -- and to have GWB be reading My Pet Goat.

[Anthony Thorne]

I've not seen this before so I found it very useful. Particularly the clip of the guy who revealed on camera that he knew "the guy who went into his broker in San Diego and said cash me out it's going down tomorrow" - then added, absolutely damningly I thought: "his brother works in the White House".

The guy talking in the clip is Robert Baer, who is himself a former CIA case officer. Baer has also discussed the cheering Israeli onlookers (with the white van) in other clips online, but tends to then mix these assertions with possibly true but unverifiable commentary about Bin Laden dealing pre 9/11 with Iranian intelligence, so Baer's position is a little hard to parse. He has criticised the 9/11 report in print though, and his comments seem to have grown more critical of the official 9/11 story over the years.

VIP's blackmailed, maybe including Poppy Bush, paedophilia and child sex trafficking, drug trafficking and use and abuse, money, money and money scams and schemes all over the place. And if the hint about the religious ceremony at the 911 site is, as I am sure it is, an occult ceremony forming the Eye of Horus on the sacrificial ground, then the ushering in of a new aeon of utter darkness.

There seems to have been a lot of VIP blackmail in Colorado, some linked to a labyrinthine escort agency blackmail ring which received much print and radio coverage in the State, and which included a federal judge. Jonathan linked that escort agency scandal (and I'll dig up the specific names and links for that later- it came up a number of times in radio interviews) to Sullivan's own ring of child trafficking, and suggested they were all part of the same ongoing activity. Jonathan's interviews with former victims (some of whom are now drifters or drug addicts in the Colorado area) made it clear that organised child abuse had been going on for many, many years. Jonathan became very emotional describing one such person he'd interviewed - a mentally retarded man who had suffered further brain damage years earlier from receiving systemic dosages of a date rape drug as a young teenager, presumably given to him by Sullivan or a cohort.

Speaking of Sullivan, from early 2002.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=126460

"On the tape, played in part this morning on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America, an Arapahoe County, Colo., sheriff's deputy seems to give an account of 15-year-old Daniel Rohrbough's death that is at odds with the long-standing official police version and a new police statement released Monday.

Arapahoe County Sheriff Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. whose department was one of several that responded to the April 20, 1999, shootings at the high school in Littleton in Jefferson County denied knowing of any cover-up. He said he has placed Deputy Jim Taylor on administrative leave while he investigates the differences between the comments on the tape and a statement Taylor gave to investigators.

"I firmly believe there is no cover-up in the Columbine investigation," Sullivan said today. "I am deeply troubled by the comments of Jim Taylor that could have misled the Rohrboughs, and we're investigating the contents of the tape and Taylor's role at Columbine."

And from 2011:

http://gazette.com/town-hall-bad-sheriff...cle/129831

"Sullivan served as the most formidable foe of gun rights for decades. He rose to national prominence in 1989 when he rescued a wounded deputy during a standoff. Sullivan exploited the incident to promote gun control, holding up a semiautomatic weapon and demanding more gun restrictions. Sullivan used the Columbine tragedy to advocate gun control."

And from 2012:

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/201...59592.html

"Are forced druggings, indefinite psychiatric detentions, and mysterious deaths part of a plot to cover up police rape being the cause of the Columbine shootings?"