Events In Honduras

[Peter Lemkin]

Well, we can expect no better from the wicked witch of the North. She has always been quite clear where she stands on this matter. Her very good friend Lanny is representing the coupmongers before the US congress and others. If the US really supported 'democracy' she should be offering to return with him on a US military jet and landing at the US military base and escort him back to the palace instead she blames the victim of the criminals for any outcomes.

It is my understanding that previous to his return an emissary went for reconnaissance. There are parts of the military not supporting the coup. The police like most of the country are presently on strike. It is a matter of sorting which parts of the military are on side and which can be won over and which are on the other side and where they are located. Basically everyone else is in support except the oligarchy.

He had a lot of media with him. Personally I think it was a mistake to return to Nicaragua but I am not on the ground there so don't have a clear picture of the event as it happened. I don't think he is suicidal. Nor are the reporters. But the fact that his family and many supporters are now hostages needs to be known far and wide and must be condemned by the US - followed by action against the coup puppets. Nothing else will suffice.

Despite all the rhetoric, I can't remember the last time the USA used its might for something positive. All the USA would have to do is call the Coup-ers and say, Listen you undemocratic thugs, the President will be back in Honduras escorted by the Sec. of State and a squadron of American fighter planes, fully armed, which will land at the US Airfield. Vacate all offices of government or face the consquences....

...instead we get handwringing and monday morning quaterbacking...and calls for 'negotiations'! These people are too transparent. I think the Native Americans had it about correct, when they said the European invaders spoke with a forked tongue!

[Keith Millea]

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/07/25-6


Clinton Calls Zelaya's Return 'Reckless', Rights Groups Respond

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has called a move by ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya to cross the border into his homeland "reckless."

Zelaya briefly crossed the Honduran border on Friday before quickly returning to neighboring Nicaragua to avoid arrest. The incident occurred almost a month after the country's military sent him into exile.

The Honduran military is known to be trained by the US military before Zelaya elected as president in the Latin American state and ended his country's alliance with Washington, its traditional ally, and teamed up with Venezuela, Ecuador and other anti-US leftist leaders in the region.The military has a history of dictating governmental policies and legislations.

Clinton called the act "reckless", adding that it would not help restore democratic and constitutional order in Honduras.

She also stressed the Obama administration's support for the proposal put forth by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias, which includes an 11-point plan to reinstate Zelaya and offer amnesty to the leaders of the coup.

Zelaya, however, said he was forced to act on his own after the US-backed talks failed to reach an agreement with the coup-installed government to reinstate him.

The interim government has vowed to arrest him if he tries to return.

Earlier in the day, security forces fired tear gas at dozens of pro-Zelaya supporters trying to reach the border to greet the president near the coffee town of El Paraiso.

Several people have reportedly been wounded in the clashes.

According to a Press TV report, the Honduran Army has also imposed a curfew on the entire district near the Nicaraguan border crossing.

Meanwhile, Mark Weisbort of the Washington-based Center for Economic and Policy Research told Press TV that Honduras-based human rights groups are worried that the interim government is adopting a repressive policy of selective assassination, similar to the one incorporated in the 1980's.

Some regional leaders believe that the US -- despite its condemnation of the incident -- was actually behind the June 28 military coup against Zelaya in a bid to undermine the new alliance formed by socialist heads-of-state in Latin America.

Hillary and Lanny will soon have warm indigenous blood all over themselves.May their nightmares be eternal...........:banghead:

[Magda Hassan]

Well, aparently Zelaya has once again returned to Honduras. Here is Eva Golinger's latest info on these events:

President Zelaya is at the Honduran border again, reinitiating his attempt to enter the country, which although he passed through briefly yesterday afternoon, his reentry was prevented by military forces under orders from the coup regime. He is hoping to reunite today with his wife and children, who have been detained since yesterday several miles from the border in El Paraíso, Honduras, by police and army forces. There are approximately 3000 police and army forces at the border preventing Zelaya's reentry and interaction with supporters on the Honduran side.

Meanwhile, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Zelaya's behavior "reckless" in statements yesterday afternoon. Her specific statement was, "President Zelaya’s effort to reach the border is reckless. It does not contribute to the broader efforts to restore democratic and constitutional order in the Honduras crisis. So we urge President Zelaya and all other parties to reaffirm their commitment to a negotiated, peaceful solution to the integrity of Honduran democracy and the safety and well-being of the Honduran people. In fact, we urge both parties to accept the proposal put forth by President Arias. It is the basis for a peaceful solution, and that is what the United States supports."

Right, but the coup regime's repression of the Honduran people, political assassinations, tortures, detentions of over 1000 Zelaya supporters, violent kidnapping and forced exile of Zelaya, illegal usurpation of the presidency and executive functions, censoring of media, expulsion of foreign journalists, amongst other crimes, is "good behavior" that "contributes to democracy"??? Because we haven't heard any clear condemnations from Clinton or her spokesmen regarding all of the above. Zero, zip, nothing.

The whole Arias negotiation is a trap to buy time and consolidate the coup regime, or return Zelaya to the presidency with no power. Clinton advisor Kevin Casas-Zamora, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institute (the most influential "democrat" think-tank in Washington) and former Vice President of Costa Rica under President Arias (hmmm, maybe that's why he is the designed negotiator) laid out the terms that Arias/Clinton are trying to impose on Zelaya in an article on July 9, 2009, at least one week before Arias presented his first proposal to resolve the Honduran conflict. Casas-Zamora said,

"First of all that Zelaya should return to the presidency, though not necessarily to power. The presidency and power are two different things. Number two, he has to end his plans to amend the constitution, which won't be much of a problem. Number three, he has to put some distance between himself and Chavez. That's essential. Number four, there has to be some kind of power-sharing agreement, whereby Zelaya remains at the helm of the government but some other people chip-in in the main decisions that are to be made between now and the next election in November. Number five, there has to be some kind of amnesty, for lack of a better word, where everybody turns a blind eye on the pervasive illegal behavior of all the parties involved, because all of them have acted with illegal behavior and have acted with total disregard for the rule of law. Sadly for Honduras, they will have to turn a blind eye to all of that. At this point, no party is in a position to demand accountability from anybody. There's no such thing as high moral ground in Honduras at this point."

So, let the coup regime off the hook and turn Zelaya into a limp president. This is the "smart power" solution of the Obama-Clinton administration. Save the empire's face and its interests too!

Zelaya's "reckless" return to Honduras and his reunification with his people is the only way to restore dignity to the Central American nation.

http://www.chavezcode.com/

[Peter Lemkin]

Well, aparently Zelaya

The whole Arias negotiation is a trap to buy time and consolidate the coup regime, or return Zelaya to the presidency with no power. Clinton advisor Kevin Casas-Zamora, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institute (the most influential "democrat" think-tank in Washington) and former Vice President of Costa Rica under President Arias (hmmm, maybe that's why he is the designed negotiator) laid out the terms that Arias/Clinton are trying to impose on Zelaya in an article on July 9, 2009, at least one week before Arias presented his first proposal to resolve the Honduran conflict. Casas-Zamora said,

"First of all that Zelaya should return to the presidency, though not necessarily to power. The presidency and power are two different things. Number two, he has to end his plans to amend the constitution, which won't be much of a problem. Number three, he has to put some distance between himself and Chavez. That's essential. Number four, there has to be some kind of power-sharing agreement, whereby Zelaya remains at the helm of the government but some other people chip-in in the main decisions that are to be made between now and the next election in November. Number five, there has to be some kind of amnesty, for lack of a better word, where everybody turns a blind eye on the pervasive illegal behavior of all the parties involved, because all of them have acted with illegal behavior and have acted with total disregard for the rule of law. Sadly for Honduras, they will have to turn a blind eye to all of that. At this point, no party is in a position to demand accountability from anybody. There's no such thing as high moral ground in Honduras at this point."


http://www.chavezcode.com/

Good pieice above, but that quote [or is it 'declaration'?] by Casas-Zamora is a sickening, amoral, meddling, arrogant, imperialistic, illegal, pro-Coup, anti-Zamora, anti-Guatemala piece of Monroe Doctrine crap. Its like the bad-old days supporting Apartied S.A. but giving lip-service to rights for the majority non-White polulation there, etc. Business as usual for Chiquita, Corporate expoiters and America.....sick stuff. Some 'change' Mr. Obama! Pillory Hillary!

[Magda Hassan]

Well, it's continuity 'they' can believe in. Chump change for us.

[Magda Hassan]

http://resistenciamorazan.blogspot.com/2...-patriotas-se-ponen-del-lado.html>

Check out the url above to listen to a communique called in by an
anonymous military officer, declaring the existence of a strong and
organized group of lower-ranking officers who are strongly opposed to
the coup and the repression dictated by the General Vasquez and the
current military leadership inside Honduras. The officer was calling
in from El Paraiso, but said his group is national in scope.

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Military in Honduras Backs Plan on Zelaya
By GINGER THOMPSON and BLAKE SCHMIDT
Published: July 25, 2009
WASHINGTON ? The Honduran armed forces issued a communiqu? on
Saturday indicating that they would not stand in the way of an
agreement to return Manuel Zelaya, the country?s ousted president, to
power.

Meanwhile, in Las Manos, a town along the border between Nicaragua
and Honduras, Mr. Zelaya made his second symbolic appearance in two
days, defying calls from foreign leaders to avoid any moves that
might provoke violence in his politically polarized country.

The communiqu? was drafted in Washington after days of talks between
mid-level Honduran officers and American Congressional aides. Posted
on the Honduran Armed Forces Web site, it endorsed the so-called San
Jos? Accord that was forged in Costa Rica by delegates representing
President Zelaya and the man who heads the de facto Honduran
government, Roberto Micheletti.

The accord, supported by most governments in the hemisphere, would
allow Mr. Zelaya to return as president, although with significantly
limited executive powers. Mr. Micheletti has steadfastly rejected Mr.
Zelaya?s return as president.

In its communiqu?, the Honduran military added its support to the
proposal. Officials involved said it was meant to dispel any
perceptions that the military would block civilian efforts to resolve
the crisis.

The officials said the military communiqu? was significant because it
was the first sign of support for the San Jos? Accord by a powerful
sector of the de facto government. And the officials said it could
make it more difficult for the Honduran Congress and Supreme Court to
reject the accord when they consider it.

American officials who met here with the Hondurans said that they
were two colonels who were concerned about the tensions generated by
the political conflict.

Joy Olson, executive director of the Washington Office on Latin
America, a nonprofit human rights group, said she was told that the
officers were showing Congressional aides a recording of the day Mr.
Zelaya was detained, as evidence that no abuses had been committed
against him.

In the meantime, however, thousands of troops had been deployed to
tighten security along the border to prevent Mr. Zelaya from
returning. And thousands of his supporters defied government curfews
and military roadblocks, by abandoning their cars and hiking for
hours to reach the remote border post to see him.

Mr. Zelaya vowed to try a third time to re-enter Honduras. "We are
ready to take this to its final consequences," he told his
supporters. "We are not afraid.?

Ginger Thompson reported from Washington, and Blake Schmidt from Las
Manos, Nicaragua.

[Magda Hassan]

Now we will start to see action. US and German capital is screaming because of the strikes and boycotts. From Bill Conroy:

Letter to Secretary Clinton Regarding Honduras

July 27, 2009

The Honorable Hillary R. Clinton

Secretary of State
2201 C St NW
Washington, DC 20520
Dear Secretary Clinton:
As companies that have products made in Honduras, we are deeply concerned about recent events in that country. We understand that serious disagreements exist between the elected President, Congress and the Supreme Court, but these should be resolved through peaceful, democratic dialogue, rather than through military action.
While we do not and will not support or endorse the position of any party in this internal dispute, we feel it is necessary in this case to join with the President of the United States, the governments of countries throughout the Americas, the Organization of American States, the UN General Assembly and the European Union in calling for the restoration of democracy in Honduras.
We are also very concerned about the continuation of violence if this dispute is not resolved immediately, and with restrictions on civil liberties under the July 1 Emergency Decree. We urge for an immediate resolution to the crisis and that civil liberties, including freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of assembly, and freedom of association be fully respected.
We welcome the participation of the contending parties in mediation talks and are hopeful they will achieve a prompt and just solution to all issues in dispute.
Sincerely,

NIKE, Inc. The adidas Group Gap Inc. Knights Apparel

Copy: Assistant Secretary of State Thomas Shannon
OAS Secretary General Jose Miguel Insulza

[Magda Hassan]

At last something positive, even if for all the wrong reasons, comes from the US State Department.


US Revokes Diplomatic Visas of Honduran Coup Members

Posted by Al Giordano - July 28, 2009 at 11:53 am By Al Giordano

Well, this is a start:

Revocation of Diplomatic Visas

Ian Kelly
Department Spokesman, Office of the Spokesman
BUREAU OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS
Washington, DC
July 28, 2009
The Department of State is currently reviewing the diplomatic (A) visas of individuals who are members of the de facto regime in Honduras, as well as the derivative visas for family members of these individuals. We have already revoked diplomatic visas issued to four such individuals who received their diplomatic visas in connection with positions held prior to June 28 under the Zelaya administration, but who now serve the de facto regime.

Developing...

Update: There was a strange set of contortions in today's State Department press briefing in which spokesman Ian Kelly claimed he couldn't reveal the names of those whose visas were revoked. (I doubt very much he has any legal footing for that argument because immigration laws give zero rights to foreign citizens on US soil.)
Anyway, the New York Times has two of the names of the soon to be dearly deported:

State Department spokesman, Ian Kelly, declined to identify the officials but Honduran officials identified two of them as Tomás Arita, a Supreme Court justice who signed the detention order that led to Mr. Zelaya’s removal by the military, and José Alfredo Saavedra, president of Congress.

If true, that's a hopeful sign, given the centrality of the Supreme Court judge and Micheletti's replacement in Congress to the coup. At first glance, it sounded more like the revocation of visas of lower level functionaries. But these guys are the scum de la scum of the coup and making an example of them is exactly the right move.
Update II: The other shoe that falls with the expulsion of coup collaborators from Washington is that representatives of the legitimate Zelaya government are re-taking the Honduran Embassy. Elizabeth Dickinson of Foreign Policy reports that Zelaya's Communications Minister Enrique Reina has come to Washington to take on the role of Honduran Ambassador to the US:

When Honduras's minister of communications, Enrique Reina, learned that his president had been ousted in a coup, he immediately tried to get to the state television station to send the people a message. He never made it -- but he did make it to the United States, where I spoke to him tonight, and where he has just been nominated to be ambassador of Honduras here in Washington. His predecessor's visa was revoked by the State Department today, due to his having supported the coup.

Update III: Add four major apparel manufacturers with factories in Honduras to the mounting voices that Washington can and should do more to isolate and boycott the coup regime. This Open Letter to Secretary Clinton was signed by Nike, The Gap, Adidas and Knights Apparel. Here's an excerpt:

While we do not and will not support or endorse the position of any party in this internal dispute, we feel it is necessary in this case to join with the President of the United States, the governments of countries throughout the Americas, the Organization of American States, the UN General Assembly and the European Union in calling for the restoration of democracy in Honduras.
We are also very concerned about the continuation of violence if this dispute is not resolved immediately, and with restrictions on civil liberties under the July 1 Emergency Decree. We urge for an immediate resolution to the crisis and that civil liberties, including freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of assembly, and freedom of association be fully respected.

It's interesting that they directed their letter to the Secretary. Clearly, they too can see that Clinton has been the most problematic and double-talking member of the US administration regarding restoration of democracy in Honduras. And over at Foggy Bottom and the rest of Clinton Inc., they're starting to feel the blowback.
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefiel...up-members

[Magda Hassan]

An update.

The curfew remains in place from 6 pm till 6 am in most places except the border regions near Nicaragua where there has been a 24 hour curfew in the last week. This has greatly affected trade and commerce in those areas and caused millions of dollars damage. The curfew has been eased in these areas now.

President Zelaya is meeting with the US ambassador, the Cuban-American Hugo Llorens, and a delegation of US officials, to Honduras in Nicaragua. No details about the meeting as yet. The legitimate First Lady of Honduras, Xiomara Castro has realised that the military were going to expatriate her by taking her to the border and now she and her group have returned to the capital where she will make an announcement tonight. You can listen to it here at Radio Globo: http://www.radioglobohonduras.com/index.html

Coup supporters (los perfumados) arranged to import 2 bus loads of 'locals' from the capital city Tegucigalpa into Zelayas home town to make it look as if there was grass roots support for the coup there. The real locals got wind of it and set up a peaceful road block and the imported 'locals' never made it to Zelayas town.

Thursday was a deadly day in Honduras. There were protests all over the country and there was violent repression in many of those places. Roger Abraham Vallejo Cerrado, 38, secretary of the San Martín high school (below) was shot in the head and died. Twenty five other people were wounded and 88 people arrested at the same protest.


The presidential candidate, Carlos Reyes, was badly beaten by the military which resulted in a broken arm and a bloodied ear for him. Juan Barahona, the national union leader was arrested at the protest. He claimed to Presna Latina that “They treated us like animals,” whilst under arrest. TV crews from Venezolana de Televisión (VTV) were attacked by the police, so I guess the police are no longer on strike as they were a couple of days ago.

Roberto Micheletti, according to multiple press reports, ordered the police and military forces to “put a stop” to the peaceful blockades.
Now seen on much of the money in Honduras:

The military is far from united and more splits are becoming apparent daily. Below is one

PRONUNCIAMIENTO

Nosotros, un Grupo de Oficiales Superiores y Subalternos(no damos nombres por razones obvias y no por cobardía) ante la situación en que los políticos en contubernio con la junta de comandantes han involucrado a las Fuerzas Armadas y que han deteriorado la buena imagen que teníamos ante el pueblo hondureño nos pronunciamos y denunciamos lo siguiente:·

El Señor Jefe del Estado Mayor Conjunto Gral. Vásquez politizó la institución, contraviniendo el mandato constitucional de ser apolíticas.·

El Gral. Vásquez comprometió a las F.F.A.A. en un principio por apoyar al Sr. Mel Zelaya y después cambió de ámbito político en vez de retirar sus tropas a sus respectivos cuarteles y mantenerlos al margen de los políticos que sólo las están usando.·

Se menciona que un grupo de empresarios reunió 30 millones de Lempiras y los repartió a la junta de comandantes, algo que va en contra del decoro y principios del militar, así como también declaramos que las F.F.A.A. no son gendarmes de ningún grupo económico elite, sino que estamos con el pueblo porque la mayoría de sus miembros tanto oficiales como tropa venimos de las entrañas del pueblo, no somos un ejército de casta.·

El General Vásquez hace dos años debe estar de baja, pero el Señor Mel Zelaya lo dejó, infringiendo las leyes vigentes, en aquella ocasión dijo “entendido acepto Sr. Presidente” y ahora porque no le dijo también entendido, infringiendo la Ley como hace dos años, se vendió al mejor postor. Falta de principios como persona, hay algo de traición en su accionar, ha perjudicado a dos promociones en la sucesión de mando.·

Hace dos años cuando el Sr. Zelaya lo reeligió; removió unas semanas antes a varios comandantes que no estaban de acuerdo con el continuismo y cuando Don Mel reunió en Casa Presidencial a todos los Comandantes Militares, el General mandó a misión fuera de Tegucigalpa a unos oficiales que presentía le iban a cuestionar la decisión al Sr. Mel Zelaya.·

El Gral. Vásquez ha desnaturalizado el grado de General ascendiendo a ese grado a oficiales que han tenido una trayectoria negra en la vida militar pero han sido sus aduladores sin ninguna capacidad operativa. Ejemplo:·

Ascendió a un compañero, al Gral. Retirado Gerónimo Pérez, un oficial que en estado de ebriedad deshizo dos carros militares y no se le dedujeron responsabilidades, embarazó a una estudiante alférez de la Academia Militar y él influyó para que la graduaran así, ahora el Gral. Vásquez lo tiene trabajando por contrato en Colegio de Defensa ganando Lps. 30,000.00 mensuales.·

El Gral. Fuentes Gonzales, es un Oficial cleptómano que en una ocasión siendo Comandantes del Batallón los Militares Norteamericanos, haciendo una acción cívica en el occidente del país, dejaron en calidad de depósito una madera y materiales de construcción y cuando regresaron a traerla él ya la había vendido, los norteamericanos recomendaron baja deshonrosa y ahora es un flamante General.·

El General Cuéllar, excelente persona pero como oficial nunca conoció un batallón de frontera, no sabe lo que es patrullar una frontera, sólo ha sido oficinista cosa inaudita, pero es todo un general y no ha sudado fatiga.·

General Padget, un oficial problema desde que es subalterno, se graduó en México y allá dejó mal record, con su faltas al decoro(mejor indaguen ustedes).·

General Cervantes, Prince y contra-Almirante Rodríguez, sin comentarios negativos sobre su vida militar y particular, pero no han tenido carácter como militares para aclarar las cosas con el Sr. Jefe del Estado Mayor Conjunto.Sr. General Vásquez, cuando usted le dijo al Sr. Mel Zelaya que no le cumpliría la orden de la cuarta, allí le hubiera presentado su renuncia, no que cambió de bando político, como si las F.F.A.A. estuvieran para servir a grupos políticos.

Mejor renuncie, está a tiempo, recuerde que también en 1993 conoció las celdas de la P.C. MOSUSU

STATEMENT



We, a group of senior and subaltern officers (we do not give names for obvious reasons, and not due to cowardice) in the face of the situation in which the politicians in collusion with the joint command involved the Armed Forces, and that has eroded the good image that we had before the Honduran people, state and denounce the following:

• The Head of the Joint Chiefs, General Vásquez, politicized the institution, contravening the constitutional mandate to be apolitical.
  

• General Vásquez committed the Armed Forces in the beginning to aid Sr. Mel Zelaya and afterward changed political scope, in place of retiring his troops to their respective barracks and maintaining them on the periphery of the politicians who are only using them.
  

• It is mentioned that a group of businessmen collected 30 million Lempiras and doled it out to the group of commanders, something that goes against the decorum and values of the military, and we declare that the Armed Forces are not gendarmes of any elite economic group, rather we are with the people because the majority of its members, both officers as well as troops come from the entrails of the people, we are not a thoroughbred army.
  

• General Vásquez should have stepped down two years ago, but Sr. Mel Zelaya left him, infringing the laws in force, on that occasion he said "understood I accept Sr. President"; and now because he did not say again "understood", infringing the Law as he did two years ago, he sold to the highest bidder. A lack of principles as a person, there is something of betrayal in his actions, he has prejudiced two promotions in the succession of of command.
  

• Two years ago when Sr. Zelaya re-elected him; some weeks before various commanders were removed who were not in agreement with the continuity and when Don Mel brought together all the Military Commanders in the Casa Presidencial, the General sent some officers that if present were going to question the decision with Sr. Mel Zelaya on a mission outside of Tegucigalpa.
  

• General Vásquez has denaturalized the rank of General, raising to this rank officers that have had a black path in military life, but have been his admirers, without any operational capacity.
  

Example:

Promoting a friend, Retired General Gerónimo Pérez, an officer who in a state of inebriation wrecked two military cars and did not have responsibilities removed, made pregnant a student ensign in the Military Academy and influenced it so that they graduated her, now General Vásquez has him working on contract in the Defense College earning 30,000 Lempiras monthly.



General Fuentes Gonzales is a kleptomaniac officer that on one occasion, there being Commanders of the North American Military battalion, carrying out a civic action in the west of the country, left construction materials and some wood, and when they returned to get it he had already sold it, the North Americans recommended a dishonorable discharge and now he is a brand-new General.



General Cuéllar, an excellent person but as an officer never knew a frontier battalion, doesn't know what it is to patrol a frontier, has only been an invisible clerical worker, but is completely a general and hasn't sweated fatigued.



General Padget, a problem officer since he was a junior officer, graduated in Mexico and left a bad record there, with his failures of decorum (better you investigate).



General Cervantes, Prince, and counter-admiral Rodriguez, without negative commentaries about their private and military life, but they have not had the character as military to clarify things with the Head of the Joint Chiefs.

Sr. General Vásquez, when you said to Sr. Mel Zelaya that you would not carry out the order of the "cuarta" [urna], you should have presented your resignation, not changed your political camp, as if the Armed Forces existed to serve political groups. Better to resign, it is time, remember that in 1993 you also knew the cells of the P. C.
http://hibueras.blogspot.com/2009/07/los...ar-la.html

[Peter Lemkin]

Would I love to see Clinton, Obama and the USA [not to mention the Oligarchs in Honduras and the America corporations behind them!] get a black-eye over this - and soon! We can hope!!!!.....