2 Japanese carrying $134 bil worth of U.S. bonds detained in Italy

[Peter Lemkin]

Half-ass Wiki entry on this matter/affair......but add to it and make it better! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiasso_fin...gling_case

[Peter Lemkin]

Well it goes from bizarre to a joke. It turns-out that the the SS had an office they participated in in Rome during this saga, and they [at least publicly] didn't move their asses to look at the Bonds; The Treasury in the USA just looked at the same internet pictures we saw and declared them fakes. What a joke......do they take us for fools? Yes. :flute:

U.S. and Europe Jointly Establish Cyber-Crime Force

By JENNIFER CLARK
ROME -- The U.S. Secret Service plans to unveil Tuesday plans for a pan-European task force charged with preventing identity theft, computer hacking and other computer-based crime.

The unit will be based in Rome, teaming up with an Italian anti-cyber-crime police unit and the Italian post office Poste Italiane SpA, which has developed software that can track electronic payments as it moves beyond traditional mail delivery.

The European Electronic Crime Task Force's main job will group together the cyber-crime efforts of the European Union nations and the U.S., bolstering defenses against computer attacks on embassies and other government sites that host sensitive computer systems such as air-traffic control. It will also monitor computer networks for threats, as well as deal with attacks once they happen.

"The transnational nature of cyber attacks requires international collaboration and expertise, as exemplified by this joint professional partnership," said Robert Gombar, a special agent in charge of the Secret Service's Rome field office, which coordinates its activities in southern Europe and the Mediterranean.

Under the terms of the agreement, the new task force will monitor computer networks across Europe using software designed by Poste Italiane. The software could comb through money transfers performed over the Internet for suspicious signs, such as an account being opened by the same person in several different places, according to Poste Italiane Chief Executive Massimo Sarmi.

In recent years many Italians, as well as newly arrived immigrants, have begun to use Poste Italiane's 14,000-branch postal system as a bank to deposit their paychecks and pay their bills. Poste Italiane users can also make payments online. Poste Italiane now makes more money from banking and insurance services than it does from sending letters and packages. Of the €50 billion ($70 billion) that crosses Poste Italiane's electronic network each month, total theft amounts to "a few hundred thousand euros" per month, said Mr. Sarmi.

Write to Jennifer Clark at jennifer.clark@dowjones.com

[David Guyatt]

The SS has had an office in Italy (not necessarily in Rome though - I think it was Naples) for a long time Pete, with a lot of their non-domestic effort on fraudulent financial instruments and FUSD (fake UD dollars) being centred there.

[Peter Lemkin]

The SS has had an office in Italy (not necessarily in Rome though - I think it was Naples) for a long time Pete, with a lot of their non-domestic effort on fraudulent financial instruments and FUSD (fake UD dollars) being centred there.

Napoli is a short drive to where these 2 whatever were stopped with their 'Bonds'!...so even more suspicious...or predicatable - maybe those are the same thing. :hmmmm2:

[Peter Lemkin]

I think David was correct. Everyone wanted this story to just melt away. Apparently, the men 'caught' were released; the Bonds were not destroyed and their whereabouts are unknown; the SS didn't send anyone to look at them and everyone just acted as if it were monopoly money and not worth the trouble. I'll bet there were some big deals being made behind the scenes - but likely not the original one planned. There have been mumblings of the Bonds being 'fake', but the legal follow-up for fakes were not followed. None of the media nor governments nor agencies involved are doing follow-up or reporting on this. It never happened. Go back to sleep. Everything is OK.

[Peter Lemkin]

As many predicted, the story was 'allowed' to and 'encouraged' to just die...no follow-up; no conclusions; no legal action; nothing....oh, there was SOMETHING - HUGE - but all done in secret and will be kept that way. One wonders how much of the financial iceberg is visible and how much under the radar....?!

[Carsten Wiethoff]

This whole bond thing has died, methinks. Fake or not, who cares? 134.5 Billion $US is just not enough to warrant a single serious stetement by any authorities, US, Italian or Japanese.

BUT
Now everybody can be a billionaire!
See http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/USA-1000000000-1998-KENNEDY-APOLLO11-SPACE-ROCKET-UNC_W0QQitemZ200302722477QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea2f8fdad&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14&_trkparms=|293%3A1|294%3A30
More of this stuff from this seller: http://stores.ebay.com.sg/WORLD-BANKNOTE...NS-GALLERY
The only problem is: Billions of WHATEVER!?!
And now look carefully at the original report from 4th June:
http://www.agenziadogane.it/wps/wcm/conn...OD=AJPERES
To my knowledge this is the only place where the „Kennedy Bonds“ have been pictured, in really bad quality. The ebay picture is much clearer.
But clearly, these are originals. Even with certificate.

Still stunned about all this, but finally beginning to laugh…:thefinger:
Carsten

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[Peter Lemkin]

E 'un international intrigue. The mystery of 134.5 billion dollars seized in Chiasso on 3 June is increasingly alarming and would have originated in the Japanese financial crisis of 1998.
Circulating bills of one billion dollars but not one issued by the Fed A history of finance in parallel with the U.S. secret services (and our) results. The two stopped at Chiasso has a name: Mitsuyoshi Watanabe and Akihiko Yamaguchi, characters already thoroughly "burned" in the international financial field and involved (in 2004) in the case of an unauthorized release of the Japanese bond (so-called Japanese Bond Series 57 - Securities exclusively used in intergovernmental transactions) worth 500 billion yen each. A transaction where you suspect there has been the zampino CIA. Yamaguchi was also indicated by confidential sources as manager of the Japanese Ministry of Finance and brother of Toshiro Muto. A name that carries so far and at the top by understanding why, after a month and a half, yet it was not issued a single official.



United States Japan and Italy

United States, Japan and Italy appear to varying degrees embarrassed by a scandal protagonists of state. The day after the G8 summit would come dell'Aquila confirmation that a special committee would be arriving from the States to determine finally whether the evidence seized, amounting to scale to the fourth place spot in the ranking of the largest creditors of the U.S., after Russia and prior of England, whether true or false. In any case it is the largest traffic rate in history. But the arrival of "experts" Americans unnecessarily since the fabled days following the seizure of Como.

Abnormal traffic status

True or false? It has no great importance: it is a figure that can affect currency assets of the dollar. One possibility that has set in the secret services fibrillation and central banks around the world. The Bank of Italy did not wish to make comments by returning the ball to the Ministry of Economy where anonymous sources have confirmed that in this case the rate is the most worrying. In this issue there are too many things that do not work. For starters, those seized in Como securities are excluded from the normal trading since the amounts and denominations used in transactions and relationships between states and governments and is not credible that they have been put into service for an attempted fraud. The fact is that June 3 Como financiers are sure to blow, according to sources in the Il Giornale, imbeccati by the CIA that in early May would have warned us of the possible arrival in Italy of a flood of bonds in the U.S. that "the North Korean government was trying to convert into euros. Our services thus alerted the Guardia di Finanza and titles, for an amount that North Korea has never possessed, arrive punctually at Chiasso, transported by two expected regularly to the eastern gate.

The titles and the track Americana

These 249 titles. 10 Kennedy Notes from a billion dollars each and 239 U.S. Treasury securities by $ 500 million each. Notes from its Kennedy arrives bandol to start intricatissima unravel this skein. It is not good for the Treasury but real paper currency. Yes, sir, this is business one billion dollars each. The fact is however that the release of the State ticket was, until the seizure of Como, if not secret, at least not in the public domain. Obviously it is very unlikely that a forger plays with absolute perfection (for the Guardia di Finanza is indistinguishable from the original title) a ticket is not in circulation and which is not known to exist. The super-notes were issued in 1998 and are not guaranteed by the Federal Reserve that, in fact, has already officially declared that he never issued securities for the par value of one billion dollars.

The Fed does not mind

The super-tickets would be part of a special issue made in the order 11110 executive, signed on 4 June 1963 by President John Kennedy who had returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without the involvement of Congress, secured by stocks Federal silver, and without going through the Fed after the assassination of President Kennedy 11110 executive order fell into disuse and banknotes issued by the government were withdrawn from the market. But the fact is that the Executive Order 11110 has never been formally repealed. It is estimated that in 1998 99% of banknotes in circulation were "Banknotes of the Federal Reserves' while 1% were" Banknotes of the United States. " Need to know, to understand something, that the press of the two types of notes is almost identical except that one says "banknote of the Federal Reserve" and the other "banknote of the United States." Moreover, those of the Federal Reserve have brand and serial number green, the U.S. brand and serial number red. Just look at the photo spread by the Guardia di Finanza di Como to realize that the notes of a billion dollars seized in Chiasso were made by the Treasury, not the U.S. Fed

The advisers to Obama and the Crisis of 1998

Dates back to 1998 the great crisis of the yen, the Japanese economy on the brink of bankruptcy and the risk of a collapse of financial markets similar to what we are experiencing today.
One possibility then avoided by the U.S. government decided to support the weight of the yen rate in free fall. No one remembers more than one crisis but personally intervened at the Rubin, the Treasury minister, and his deputy Larry Summers, now economic adviser to Barak Obama and at the special envoy to Washington in the countries in trouble, in Tokyo on precipitatosi June 18 1998 to meet with Finance Minister Hikaru Matsunaga and his deputy, Eisuke Sakakibara, the man known on the markets as "Mr. Yen".

A novel trap

Now the really interesting fact is that the two Japanese arrested in Chiasso, with the mammoth amount of 134.5 billion dollars, the characters are thoroughly "burned" they were involved in an earlier traffic miliardiario securities counterfeit yen. In more precautions taken by the two to cross the Italian-Swiss border is now the investigators appeared totally inadequate to the traffic put in place. An inconsistent with the naivety of the two curriculum couriers Japanese who have previous trades by financial professionals of the highest quality. Yamaguchi in particular seems the most interesting and around which could begin to close the circle of the mysteries on the "treasure of Chiasso" if it were confirmed that this is a former senior official of the Japanese Ministry of the Treasury and if his name actually brings Toshiro Muto to the accounts could begin to return. Toshiro Muto was until recently vice governor of the Bank of Japan but also in 1998 contestatissimo Director of the Secretariat of the Ministry of Finance of Hikaru Matsunaga and Eisuke Sakakibara, the protagonists, with Summers and Rubin, of " rescue the yen "in 1998. Sakakibara until recently was also among the strongest sponsor of the nomination of Muto to governor of the Central Bank of Japan. Everything suggests that the titles of the "treasure of Chiasso" are authentic and that they represent an acute sore stomach for the entourage of government financial Obama more than for the Japanese. In short, pulls air from low blows.

Luigi Grimaldi
Source: http://www.liberazione.it/
14/07/2009


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5YxQusWdzU
Here is the Italian official declaration :
http://www.agenziadogane.it/wps/wcm/...df?MOD=AJPERES
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15505&size=A
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15588
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15648

Now if you read this article dated on March 27 2007:

http://www.reuters.com/article/reute...45129420070327

you'll find :

..... U.S. TIC data show that during the 12 months ending January 2007, Japanese investors bought just $18.2 billion in Treasury coupons, or approximately $1.5 billion a month, a sharp contrast from the 12 months ending January 2005 when Japanese investors purchased $134.5 billion of U.S. government debt, McCarthy noted.....

These US Treasury Checks have a five years validity which bring us to the 2010 deadline, we are right in.
To have an example of the validity here is a similar sample :
http://etleboro.com/documents/copy-title.pdf

If you put together :
- that one japanese arrested is Tuneo Yamauchi, brother-in-la of Toshiro Muto, who was until recently Deputy Governor of the Bank of Japan
- that following the executive order 11110 issue by J.F. Kennedy :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3026543/Executive-Order-11110
the Kennedy's notes could have been issued any time by the Treasury (red serial numbers and mentioned United states of America)
- that these two men have been liberated within few days, (if fakes they should be in jail, if not the long arm of power is behind)
- that the figures strangely fit with the 2005 Japanese bonds buys, with five years validity
- that only the BIS in Switzerland could have recieved these notes
- that a total blackout is surrounding the story

the most logical conclusion is these papers aren't fakes and the case should spread all over the medias. The Japanese are trying to get rid off their bond and cash them.

[all from an interesting discussion on this at http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread....post112006 ]

[Carsten Wiethoff]

Peter, <sigh>
I agree with the stuff you have quoted, and until last week this would have been my position, but I have to say, you obviously have not really read what I have written.
I will make it a little clearer.
There is a seller on ebay, from Singapore, who sells AUTHENTIC notes with Kennedy on one side and a space shuttle on the other, and the words “commemorative one billion” written on it.
You can see for yourself, and actually you can buy them, at least one, I just bought the other available piece for $24,99 plus shipping and handling.
One thing to immediately notice: This is not money or equivalent, nor does it claim to be. It is colourful paper, commemorating the moon flight and the Kennedy Space Center. I’m not sure if it originates from the Kennedy Space Center or from some printing press in Singapore, it does not actually matter.

One thing matters very much: It looks EXACTLY like the very bad photos on the original press release from 4th June. Some phote experts here to verify that?
And now I ask anybody with half a brain: How long did it take you to realize, when looking at the ebay picture http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/2d/7b/42bf_1.JPG that this is not money, fake or otherwise?
How long did it take you to realize that there is no currency printed on the paper?
How long did it take you to realize that people at the Guardia di Finanza di Como are either braindead or complicit in a setup. I don’t think for a second that only crooks work there. But it must be really embarassing.
And, Mr. Meyerhardt, if you can hear me, I have to disagree with your verdict. Based on pictures that I can see on the internet, at least the 10 “Kennedy Bonds” worth “One Billion whatever” are definitely authentic.
Smile:ciao:
Carsten

[Peter Lemkin]

Peter, <sigh>
I agree with the stuff you have quoted, and until last week this would have been my position, but I have to say, you obviously have not really read what I have written.
I will make it a little clearer.
There is a seller on ebay, from Singapore, who sells AUTHENTIC notes with Kennedy on one side and a space shuttle on the other, and the words “commemorative one billion” written on it.
You can see for yourself, and actually you can buy them, at least one, I just bought the other available piece for $24,99 plus shipping and handling.
One thing to immediately notice: This is not money or equivalent, nor does it claim to be. It is colourful paper, commemorating the moon flight and the Kennedy Space Center. I’m not sure if it originates from the Kennedy Space Center or from some printing press in Singapore, it does not actually matter.

One thing matters very much: It looks EXACTLY like the very bad photos on the original press release from 4th June. Some phote experts here to verify that?
And now I ask anybody with half a brain: How long did it take you to realize, when looking at the ebay picture http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/2d/7b/42bf_1.JPG that this is not money, fake or otherwise?
How long did it take you to realize that there is no currency printed on the paper?
How long did it take you to realize that people at the Guardia di Finanza di Como are either braindead or complicit in a setup. I don’t think for a second that only crooks work there. But it must be really embarassing.
And, Mr. Meyerhardt, if you can hear me, I have to disagree with your verdict. Based on pictures that I can see on the internet, at least the 10 “Kennedy Bonds” worth “One Billion whatever” are definitely authentic.
Smile:ciao:
Carsten

Look at this Exectutive order executive order 11110 issue by J.F. Kennedy :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3026543/Executive-Order-11110
the Kennedy's notes could have been issued any time by the Treasury (red serial numbers and mentioned United states of America). Also, an esteemed member here [now apparently on vacation] is aware of these - real ones. There has been quite a lot of secret, yet real, bond issues by the USA, it seems. If they were 'monopoly money' it makes no sense the men were released and the bonds negotiated for by the USG - plus all hushed-up. Sorry. This has all the hallmarkes of a Deep Political/Finacial Op - not an eBay monopoly game, IMO.