U.S. Agent Ruby Killed U.S. Agent Oswald

[Peter Lemkin]

Also, this interesting document http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=100 suggesting that the NSA was watching Ruby, Oswald and others connected before Dallas. {also another reminder of how every 'investigation' was compromised} ::trenchcoatspy::

page 3 of a September 23, 1975 memo from Dan Dwyer and Ed Greissing of the Senate Select Committee to Paul Wallach...........

II. It has been determined by the military task force, as a result of the NSA - watch list case study, that Oswald, Jack Ruby and Earl C. Ruby, Jack's brother, were targeted. An NSA spokesman reported that Oswald's name "appeared" in the rhyming dictionary on the day of the President's assassination. The following lines of inquiry should be considered:

A. The dates of which Oswald and the Ruby brothers names were placed on the list.

B. The amount of product.

C. The information contained in the product.

D. A determination if the product was forwarded to the FBI and CIA and how these agencies might have used the product in the investigation of the President's assassination.

[Herbert Blenner]

Also, this interesting document http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=100 suggesting that the NSA was watching Ruby, Oswald and others connected before Dallas. {also another reminder of how every 'investigation' was compromised} ::trenchcoatspy::

page 3 of a September 23, 1975 memo from Dan Dwyer and Ed Greissing of the Senate Select Committee to Paul Wallach...........

II. It has been determined by the military task force, as a result of the NSA - watch list case study, that Oswald, Jack Ruby and Earl C. Ruby, Jack's brother, were targeted. An NSA spokesman reported that Oswald's name "appeared" in the rhyming dictionary on the day of the President's assassination. The following lines of inquiry should be considered:

A. The dates of which Oswald and the Ruby brothers names were placed on the list.

B. The amount of product.

C. The information contained in the product.

D. A determination if the product was forwarded to the FBI and CIA and how these agencies might have used the product in the investigation of the President's assassination.

Finding a document that places Jack Ruby on a NSA watch list is surprising. However, his appearance on the list is not unexpected since unforseen events of November 22, 1963 exposed his dirty little company in Dallas.

http://hdblenner.com/dirtylittlecompany.htm

[Peter Lemkin]

Ferrie was known to use an alias of "Farris" on occasions. Jim Garrison claimed that Jack Ruby's address book contained the name of "Farris.".........and there are other claims of Ruby knowing Ferrie, and those associated with him.

[Jim Hargrove]

Thanks again to all for the informative follow-up posts.

The evidence as a whole seems to show, at minimum, that:

1. Ruby worked with Rep. Richard Nixon's staff as far back as 1947.

2. He had a U.S. Security Clearance, at least in 1961, allowing
him aboard flights demonstrating ground terrain hugging
flight instrumentation with clear Intelligence benefits.

3. Although there are numerous, credible reports linking Ruby
to the illegal Cuban armaments trade, he was apparently protected
from arrest and prosecution.

4. He had insider's knowledge of at least some aspects of the
Oswald saga, at least once correcting Dallas DA Henry Wade.

5. He silenced Oswald for no apparent reason whatsoever.

6. The U.S. government stonewalled his true biography during
four investigations, just like it did for "Oswald."

There are some real similarities here between the USG's treatment of Ruby
and Oswald. Consider this sworn testimony before the ARRB from Robert
Tanenbaum, who served as Chief Counsel to the HSCA's subcommittee on
the Assassination of JFK:

But with respect to the investigation, the executive committee transfer (sic, should be "transcript") for example of approximately January 20th, 23rd, 27th, in that period of time when the Attorney General of Texas, Henry Wade the District Attorney and Leon Jaworsky counsel to the Attorney General, on the transcript spoke to the Chief Justice and said in substance, as I recall, that they had information from unimpeachable sources that Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the CIA and the FBI. And the Chief Justice said well we'll investigate that. And yet in substance on the record Allen Dulles says not so fast. What do you mean says the Chief Justice, to which Allen Dulles replies, well if you ask J. Edgar Hoover whether or not Oswald was an employee of the FBI he's simply going to say, no. To which the Chief Justice responded, do you mean to tell me if I were to call an agent in here under oath he would not tell the truth? And Dulles said, if he were a good agent. The Chief Justice said, well, who will he tell the truth to? And Dulles replied, maybe the President.

And... maybe not. Thanks again!

[R.K. Locke]

I think Ruby's relationship with Hoffa and his high level associates is probably the key to his intelligence connections, though there may well be more to him than that.

The Hoffa connection, of course, also leads back to Nixon.


Here are some other bits and pieces of info to add to the overall picture:



http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=17...18,5464992


https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...ruth/page3


http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=19...87,2209850


http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....topic=6011



JFK: The Ruby Connection, Gary Mack's Follies - Part One
By James DiEugenio

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One of the problems with this show is that its very title is deceptive. Because there is simply no exploration of who Jack Ruby was and what his connections to the John F. Kennedy case were or may have been. I say "may have been" because, as with Oswald, the Warren Commission's exploration of Ruby's actual background was, to be kind, cursory. To be unkind, today it looks humorous. For instance, the Commission famously wrote that Ruby had no significant link to organized crime. (Jim Marrs, Crossfire, p. 389) Yet the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) listed a series of phone calls made by Ruby in the month leading up to the murder of Kennedy. It clearly exposes that assertion as dubious. In fact, the House Select Committee specifically criticized both the Warren Commission and the FBI for "failing to analyze systematically ... the data in those records. " (Vol. V, p. 188) Ruby's phone usage went up by a factor of 300% in November of 1963. (ibid p. 190) At this time, Ruby was in phone contact with the likes of Irwin Wiener, Barney Baker, Nofio Pecora, Lewis McWillie, and Dusty Miller, all of who had ties to organized crime. (ibid pgs. 193-195) And as Jim Marrs writes in Crossfire, "the record shows his involvement in a number of criminal activities including gambling, narcotics, prostitution, and gun running." (Marrs, p. 389) But, as the quote above shows, these activities were not done only with the Mafia.


Ruby's gun running was at least partly done with former CIA agent Thomas Eli Davis. (Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt, pgs 401-405) And Davis' connections reportedly went all the way up to the CIA assassin famously code named QJ/WIN. Davis had a slight resemblance to Oswald and he used the name Oswald at times in his work. (ibid, p. 402) In fact, Ruby was so close to Davis that, after he shot Oswald, Ruby actually volunteered Davis' name to his attorneys. Incredibly, Ruby said that if he beat the Oswald rap he wanted to go back into the gun running business with Davis. (ibid) Both Davis and Ruby had been involved with another gun runner named Robert McKeown. (ibid) McKeown had run guns to Castro and during one of Ruby's contacts with McKeown, Ruby offered him 25,000 dollars for a letter of introduction to the Cuban dictator. (Hurt p. 177) Where Ruby would get that kind of money and why he himself needed to contact Fidel so badly is something that we will mention later, but which Gary Mack never brings up in this show that supposedly tells the viewer about Ruby's connections to the JFK case.


Neither does Mack explain another interesting riddle. Less than three weeks after the assassination, Davis was attempting to sell guns in Morocco. He was arrested. While he was searched, the authorities found a strange handwritten letter on him referring to "Oswald" and the assassination. (ibid p. 403) In fact, there is evidence that on the day of Kennedy's murder, Davis was in Algiers for gun-running activities, and was released with the help of QJ/WIN himself. (ibid p. 404) Geez, those are interesting Ruby connections to the JFK case: Castro, the Mafia, the CIA, and the usage of Oswald's name. They aren't on this program though.


Ruby also lied about how many times he had been to Cuba. He said he had been there only once, in August of 1959. (ibid, p. 178) Yet there is evidence Ruby was there two times just in that same year. Again, it appears the Commission tried to cover up this fact about Ruby. How? By blending the two trips, which took place in August and September, into one. (Warren Report, p. 370, p. 802, WC Vol. XXII p. 859) Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel of the HSCA, once wrote that it was "...established beyond doubt that Ruby lied repeatedly and willfully to the FBI and the Warren Commission about the number of trips he made to Cuba and their duration ... Their purpose, was to courier something, probably money, into or out of Cuba." (Marrs, p. 394)


The man who Ruby was closest to in Havana was the mob associated gambler, Lewis McWillie. Elaine Mynier, a girlfriend of McWillie, described the two men. She said McWillie was "...a big time gambler, who has always been in the big money and operated top gambling establishments in the United States and Cuba. He always had a torpedo (a bodyguard) living with him for protection." She went on to say that Ruby was "a small time character who would do anything for McWillie ... (Marrs, p. 393, italics added) The Commission had to have known that McWillie was a gambler and killer who Ruby idolized. (WC Vol. V, p. 201, Vol. XXIII, p. 166) While managing the Tropicana in Havana, McWillie became associated with some of the Mob's top leaders like Santo Trafficante and Meyer Lansky, who were part owners. (FBI Memo of 3/26/64) It was Trafficante's association with McWillie that has led some commentators to relate one of Ruby's visits to McKeown as a favor for McWillie. In early 1959, McWillie's boss Trafficante was arrested and jailed outside of Havana by Castro. Just a few days later, Ruby got in contact with McKeown. He told McKeown that he represented Las Vegas interests who were seeking the release of three prisoners in Cuba. Ruby told him that he would offer him five thousand dollars per prisoner for his help. McKeown said he wanted to see the money first. (Marrs, p. 396)


McWillie was also a former employee of a main power inside the Delois Green gang Benny Binion who had moved to Las Vegas. Binion also worked at the Tropicana in Havana in 1959. (See CD 1193, WC Vol. XXIII p. 163) Binion probably knew Frank Sturgis since Sturgis was Castro's supervisor of gambling concessions in 1959. Further, Ruby was reportedly involved in gun running with Miami arms dealer Eddie Browder. Browder was also involved with Sturgis. (Marrs, p. 392) Frank Sturgis, of course, was connected to the CIA, Castro, and the Mafia.


There was also the testimony of Ruby employee Nancy Perrin Rich to attest to Ruby's intelligence ties and his gun running activities. She testified that she had moved to Dallas in 1962 to reconcile with her husband Robert. Once they did so, two local detectives who knew Robert had helped her find a job. It was tending bar for Jack Ruby. But she said she didn't like Ruby because of his overbearing manner and temper. So she quit.


She said that later her husband Robert had met with a military officer about getting some anti-Castro Cubans out of Cuba and into Miami. This meeting in Dallas was presided over by a U.S. Army colonel. The colonel suggested a cash payment of ten grand. A few nights later, the Perrins met again with the colonel but this time there were a couple of Cubans in attendance. At this second meeting the assignment was more well-defined. They were not just going to get refugees out; they were also running guns into Cuba. When they heard this, the Perrins wanted more money. The implication made by the Cubans and colonel was that the money would be arriving soon via a bagman. Rich then told the Commission: "I had the shock of my life ... A knock comes on the door and who walks in but my little friend Jack Ruby ... and everybody looks like ... here comes the savior." The Commission did not mention any of Rich's testimony in their report. Further, in 1966, Nancy Rich told Mark Lane that the Commission had eliminated the telling detail that, outside of the apartment house where the second meeting took place, was a cache of military armaments. (Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, pgs 287-297, Marrs, p. 397)


In fact, this aspect of Ruby's life his relations to CIA-Mafia activities in Cuba was obvious to even Commission staffers. Warren Commission attorneys Leon Hubert and Burt Griffin, who ran the Ruby investigation, wrote a memo to Chief Counsel J. Lee Rankin in March of 1964. They wrote that, "The most promising links between Jack Ruby and the assassination of President Kennedy are established through underworld figures and anti-Castro Cubans and extreme right-wing Americans." (John Armstrong, Harvey and Lee, p. 948) Two months later, they wrote another memo: "We believe that a reasonable possibility exists that Ruby has maintained a close interest in Cuban affairs to the extent necessary to participate in gun sales and smuggling ... Neither Oswald's Cuban interests in Dallas nor Ruby's Cuban activities have been adequately explored ... We believe the possibility exists, based on evidence already available, that Ruby was involved in illegal dealings with Cuban elements who might have had contact with Oswald. The existence of such dealings can only be surmised since the present investigation has not focused on that area." (WC Memorandum to J. Lee Rankin, 5/14/64) In other words, Griffin and Hubert were saying that the connection between the two men very likely existed in these Cuban matters. But since the FBI was not interested in it, they couldn't really discover if it was there.


On Thomas Eli Davis III:


According to Anthony Summers, in Conspiracy, Thomas Eli Davis III was
an anti-Castro gun-runner associated with Jack Ruby. Ruby told his first
attorney, Tom Howard, that it would be a problem if Davis name came up.
Seth Kantor finally identified Davis (the Warren Commission had only the
last name) as a former Texas bank robber.
At the time of the assassination, he was in North Africa. Within a
month, he was in jail in Tangier. Morroccan police detained him after
finding "a letter in his handwriting which referred in passing to Oswald
and the Kennedy assassination." The letter was addressed to a New York
attorney. CIA operative QJ/WIN sprung Davis from jail. QJ/WIN was the key
agent in the Staff D (William Harvey) executive action program. Steve
Rivele identified QJ/WIN as Jose Mankel, a Luxembourg-based smuggler.
Tom Davis wsa kiolled in 1973, electrocuted while cutting a power
line in the course of an apparent robbery. His wife said he had worked as
a soldier of fortune in Indochina, Indonesia, Algeria and Cuba, and she
suspected that he also had worked for the Mafia.
Henry Hurt, in Reasonable Doubt, published a photo of Davis, a
devoted part of a chapter to him, including a summary biography. In
January 1963, Davis got a passport in New Orleans. He became involved in
mercenary activities, and was arrested in Tangier for trying to sell guns.
He spoke fluent Spanish and vaguely resembled Oswald. He admitted using
the name Oswald in his activities. He had approached Ruby about making a
pornographic movie using some of Ruby's strippers. Both were involved with
Robert Ray McKeown in gun-running. He was a professional deep-sea diver,
and trained anti-Castro units in Florida and South America. During 1963,
he was in California and Lousiana. He resembles Silvia Odio's description
of "Oswald." On August 8-10, 1963, "T.E. Davis" was registered at the
Hotel LaSalle in New Orleans (Oswald was arrested August 9 after the
street dispute with Carlos Bringuier).
Davis and his wife left the U.S. on November 2, arrived in Tangiers
November 28, and he was arrested ten days later. Upon his arrest, the
letter was discovered. The NY lawyer was Thomas G. Proctor. On November
22, he was allegedly in jail briefly in Algiers, gotten out by QJ/WIN.
Davis told a reporter in 1964 that, while in Algeria, he used the name
Oswald. He told his third and last wife that he knew who killed President
Kennedy. He died trying to steal copper wire from a quarry.
Files: the CIA denied having a file on Davis; the FBI had 200
pages, but refused to release it on "national security" grounds; the Army
file had been destroyed along with Oswald's in the 1973 file destructions
mandated after exposure of Army domestic surveillance.


And from Nathaniel Heidenheimer on the EF:

Also involved in Pawlwy-Cooke escapade was M. Preston Goodfellow, former publisher of the Brooklyn Eagle and Donovan's liason with Garland Williams, to William Keswick and the British SOE in 1942. Later in the war Goodfellow managed sensitive opperations in Burma and China, and formed close ties to Generl Tai Li and drug smuggler Du Yue-sheng. According to... Bruce Cummings, Goodfellow made a fortune by combining business ties with right wing regimes in Asia, with interests in Central America" Pawley's collusion with Cooke, Donavan, Goodfellow, Bullitt, and Hunt is a textbook example of how Establishment privateers run the secret government. And naturally the mission dovetailed with Federal narcotics activites. In January 1950, Goodfellow traveled to Taipei with Cooke, and in April Bullitt's bagman arrived. Soon thereafter a "Colonel Williams introduced the bagman to Satiris Fassoulis, "who gave him $500,000 for a PR campaign on Taiwan" (p. 78, The Strength of The Wolf, Valentine)

Valentine thinks that this was Garland Williams, a top aide to FBN director Anslinger. In 1936 this Williams negotiated a treaty with Mexican President Cardenas that allowed FBN agents to cross the border, and do thier work inside Mexico. Later Valentine speculates about another link between Mexico and the old OSS connections in Asia, when writing about Hyman Ruby, Jacks utterly unconnected brother:

Klein was luckier than Ruby's next partner, Paul Roland Jones. In October, 1947, Hyman betrayed Jones to FBN agents in Chicago. According to White's diary, Hyman had been his informant since July 1946. Jack followed in big brother's footsteps and served White in 1950, when he briefed the Kefauver Committee about organized crime in Chicago-- although his attorney, Louis Kutner agreed to allow him to testify only "on the condition the the K. Comm. stay away from Dallas" That raises the question of whether the Committee investigated George White, who undoubtedly brought Ruby to Kefauver's attention. concurred with this request. If so, why would White want to keep the Committee out of Dallas? Wa it to defect attention from the Pawley-Cooke mission in Taiwan, which was funded by Ultra Texas oilmen like H.L. Hunt, and which, in 1951 was facilitating the CIA-Kuomintang drug smuggling operation that entered the US by crossing the Mexican border at Laredo, Texas? (p.309)

Valentine notes that there has been an "utter absence of references to the FBN in any official investigation of the JFK asassination, despite the fact that Bureau informer jack Ruby killed Oswald and that, as the HSCA consluded, Ruby had "direct contact" with associates of Marcello and Trafficante"

Perhaps the forum could recruit Mr. Valentine. He is certainly well qualified to fill in blanks related to drug running aspects of the investigation.

[Dawn Meredith]

In the same way that the CIA, the FBI and four government investigations covered up the intelligence ties of Lee Harvey Oswald, they also buried the less obvious but now increasingly compelling evidence that Jack Ruby was also, at the very least, a U.S. Intelligence asset for at least a decade prior to the assassination of JFK.


While feeding the public a tale of a low-level organized crime character who operated a few strip clubs, the real Jack Ruby/Jacob Rubenstein was much more than that. Along with Fidel Castro's personal friend Robert McKeown and former Cuban President Carlos Prio Socarra, Ruby was a major supplier of armaments to Cuba, both in support of the Castro insurgency and, surprisingly soon after Castro took power, in opposition to his regime.


For their efforts to supply guns to Cuba, both McKeown and Prio were arrested by U.S. authorities, prosecuted and convicted. Although he was just as active in the weapons for Cuba market, Ruby was never arrested, never prosecuted and, of course, never convicted of arms smuggling.


Why?


Most probably because he was protected. This protection is the first major clue that Jack Ruby was a U.S. intelligence asset, possibly an agent. There is more that is being worked on now by John Armstrong for inclusion in the coming weeks on HarveyandLee.net.


The purpose of this post is not to present John's evidence, which is still being assembled, but to pose the question, Has anyone here ever thought that Jack Ruby worked for the CIA?


Spy vs. Spy in the Kennedy Assassination!

John called me to discuss this just before I went on vacation. I actually had not considered it, primarily because the Mob story is a strong one. And also CIA agents never talk. Ruby spilled his guts to Warren and Gerry Ford. And of course to Dorothy K. As usual I found John's thinking persuasive.

Dawn

[Drew Phipps]

I think its a bit too trusting(?) of the government's supposed adherence to its own rules to jump from point A: "Ruby rode on a secret plane" to B: "Ruby had a security clearance". There's also the possibility of blackmail, or bribery, or someone just doing a favor for the local pimp to get a bit of "face time" with a dancer. TI might have been interested in marketing thier system to smugglers in the event a government contract didn't work out. Or perhaps even if it did.

Also, the correct name of the FPCC was publicly known and could have been obtained from any number of sources which I listed above. '

Don't oversell your case.

[Jim Hargrove]

Is it possible that Ruby was allowed several times on a defense/intelligence sensitive flight without the required security clearance because he blinded the men in charge with a sexy girl or two? Sure, but is that the most likely explanation, considering, say, Ruby's apparently uncanny success getting away with shipping arms illegally to Cuba? Do you suppose the CIA monitored US-Cuban arms traffic kind of carefully? Something or someone compelled Ruby to kill Oswald, and I doubt it was his concern for Jackie. Why undersell the case?

Also, for thread continuity, elsewhere we were discussing Oswald's finances for the trip to Moscow. Is it likely that Oswald would have saved virtually all his money from his time stationed in CA for the marines, then use all our most of it for a multi-city U.S. trip, stops in several European countries before going to Moscow. And if he was clever enough to do all that, and locate the express-visa-service Soviet Embassy in Helsinki, is it likely he would not know or ignore that fact that he would surely have little or nothing left to begin a new life in a foreign country? And after that "thought experiment" fell apart, would he than travel back to the U.S., escape prosecution, surround himself with virulent anti-Castro operatives and pose as a pro-Castro provocateur all because he was "a spy in his own mind?" To me, at least, there is a much more logical explanation.

[Drew Phipps]

You didn't NEED money to start a new life once in Russia. That was the "beauty" of communism. The State would house you and feed you, at least as long as you worked.

[Jim Hargrove]

I think Ruby showed up at the hotel where Hunt was paying-off the Miami crew before the assassination.

Missed this originally. Can you elaborate a bit?