The post should have read U.of Calif.,not San Diego State
Gary Severson Wrote:Ed ,you mention there was no very visible ref. to Marxism by your SDS roommate. At North Dakota in the late 60s I had Marxist professors. I spent time short times at Berkeley & U.Calif.@San Diego. Those places were even more steeped in Marxism especially Herbert Marcuse at @ La Jolla. I'm not sure what you mean by your experience, i.e. just because you didn't run across Marxism it didn't exist in the student movement?
"On one crucial point, a powerful Congressional committee seeking ways to reduce the federal budget deficit has managed to produce a rare bipartisan consensus: Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives in and out of Congress say the panel is doing too much of its work in secret."
It's been a year since we last visited this thread? (Well, the smoke has cleared, anyway.) I know that one of our members recently acquired many of the books noted but we'll let more time pass before additional comment, and I'll let that individual speak directly. There is much annotated text to be posted, but I'll refrain for the moment...
Right now, I simply want to post (as reference to yet another member's PM's) a photo of a sinister individual with whom I have crossed paths in the past. We can properly call him a poster boy for the kind of thing you can read about in Levenda's trilogy.
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"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
I have just reviewed the entire thread and will state the following:
I have begun to post the material I have collected which I have labeled "Summon The Magic" online; summonthemagic: Introduction. There are over 30 entries already.
I have placed, into my Amazon cart, the book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.
Based on the information here http://www.julianjaynes.org/bicameralmind.php (the excerpt from the intro at the bottom of the first page), it looks like an interesting read but may differ from the totality of STM because the sources in STM suggest (and I can be specific) that an individual can and must take an active role in understanding, developing and using his own consciousness.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
Oddly synchronistic that you should reference the Jaynes book now.
Tomorrow night I'll have the great pleasure of hearing the most important jazz alto saxophonist currently working -- in my less-than-humble but well-informed opinion.
Bob Mover is appearing with Esperanza Spaulding -- whom he "discovered" in NYC a few years ago -- at the University of Rhode Island.
More to the point of this thread: Bob and I are contemporaries -- brothers from separate mothers, actually. About 25 years ago he and I discovered that we had read Jaynes years before, and that we were "depressed" by his conclusions.
It is high time, if you'll excuse the expression, that I revisit the book.
And yes, by all means find Bob Mover on YouTube; his best work is NOT captured there, alas. But there's enough present to get my point across.
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene
Charles, your opinion on jazz (and other matters) is always welcome. I trust you will take a camcorder and make a product you can post. I shall move to look for Mover.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
Synchronicity is in abundance tonight, so I will post this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifOU_4mobH8 as per CD above, and, keeping on topic with regard to that which has been introduced or discussed in this thread, I offer the goodie below with a specific reference to the book "A Certain Arrogance", its title, theme and essays.
If anyone should doubt the material in the book, here is a memo (courtesy of Cryptome two nnights ago: December 3, 2011 (2.6MB) ) that will lend support. Entitled Central Intelligence Group Directive #15 and dated 1 October 1946, it concerns
"EXPLOITATION OF AMERICAN BUSINESS CONCERNS AND SCIENTIFIC, EDUCATIONAL AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WITH CONNECTIONSABROAD AND AMERICAN RESIDENTS .TRAVELLING ABROAD AS SOURCES OF FOREIGN -INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION .
Memorandum by the Director of Central Intelligence, with the Unanimous Concurrence of the Intelligence Advisory Board including the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
Charles Drago Wrote:More to the point of this thread: Bob and I are contemporaries -- brothers from separate mothers, actually. About 25 years ago he and I discovered that we had read Jaynes years before, and that we were "depressed" by his conclusions.
Yes, Jaynes' bicameral mind hypothesis conjures up sleek black hounds howling on a chill night....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
A most interesting interview that I hadn't seen before. She clearly, I think, was the original source of source of insider material for Antony Sutton's book on the Order. She confirms the direct connection between the Order and Bohemian Grove, and shows the direct transmission of the German Illuminati via Wundt to todays US education system.
About Charlotte Iserbyt - partial extract from Wiki:
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Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt is an American freelance writer who served as the Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first term of U.S. President Ronald Reagan, and staff employee of the U.S. Department of State (South Africa, Belgium, South Korea).[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] She was born in 1930[SUP][4][/SUP] and attended Dana Hall preparatory school and Katharine Gibbs College in New York City, where she studied business.[SUP][4][/SUP] Iserbyt's father and grandfather were Yale University graduates and members of the Skull and Bones secret society.
She is known for writing the book The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. The book reveals that changes gradually brought into the American public education system work to eliminate the influences of a child's parents (religion, morals, national patriotism), and mold the child into a member of the proletariat in preparation for a socialist-collectivist world of the future.[SUP][3][/SUP] She says that these changes originated from plans formulated primarily by the Andrew Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Education and Rockefeller General Education Board, and details the psychological methods used to implement and effect the changes.[SUP][3][/SUP]
In an interview[SUP][2][/SUP] concerning secret societies and the elite agenda she disclosed that in the early 1980s she had a chance to meet with Norman Dodd who had been the chief investigator for the United States House Select Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations commonly known as the B. Carroll Reece Committee. In the video interview she claims that Dodd discussed a 'network' of individuals including Carnegie who planned to bring about world peace by means of rapid changes in society. These changes would be brought about by involving the populace in various wars and military conflicts. She further claimed that Dodd had discussions with Rowan Gaither, the president of the Ford Foundation in which he revealed that directives from the President of the United States compelled foundations related to the Ford Foundation to direct their funding into bringing about the merger of the USA with the Soviet Union.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7]
Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robinson (which Charlotte Iserbyt references in her interview) can be downloaded as a .pdf HERE.
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
I wonder sometimes if the murder of William Morgan shortly before skull & bones was formed, was a manufactured event whose purpose was to cause a great many Masons to flee, creating a vacuum to be filled by others
aSK, yoU'LLBe ONE
Those who must silence others for speaking the truth cannot be innocent.
