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Boris Nemstov killed one day before his political rally
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Paul Rigby Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:I assume this harrowing photograph was taken somewhere up the Bosphorus, but I could be wrong:

Better that then up the Khyber.

Carry on.

As the Tefft of Nulandastan remarked in that seminal study of imperialism, "Get rid of this idiot! Bring on the dancing girls!"

I am happy to oblige:

[video=youtube_share;OepTlt-Qzmk]http://youtu.be/OepTlt-Qzmk[/video]

And in the words of the Khasi of Kalabar: "May the benevolence of the god Shivoo bring blessings on your house."

The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:I assume this harrowing photograph was taken somewhere up the Bosphorus, but I could be wrong:

Better that then up the Khyber.

Carry on.

As the Tefft of Nulandastan remarked in that seminal study of imperialism, "Get rid of this idiot! Bring on the dancing girls!"

I am happy to oblige:

[video=youtube_share;OepTlt-Qzmk]http://youtu.be/OepTlt-Qzmk[/video]

And in the words of the Khasi of Kalabar: "May the benevolence of the god Shivoo bring blessings on your house."


And the benevolence of Langley on the house of Nematode. Which reminds me, were these the poor chap's last words?

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"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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#23
Paul Rigby Wrote:Аnna Durizkaja, meanwhile, appears to have suffered a tremendously convenient memory loss. How very sensible.

Model Anna Duritskaya announced a partial loss of memory

http://lifenews.ru/news/150568

Nemtsov spent his last day under close surveillance by the killers

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/n...close.html

3/3/2015

Quote:The investigators have reconstructed the big picture of Nemtsov's murder

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

While the investigators are working on theories concerning possible organizers of the murder, the investigation was able to reconstruct the full picture of the murder. The preparations took an entire day, during which Nemtsov was trailed by several cars. Nemtsov was likely able to see the face of the killer, who came out of hiding in front of both Nemtsov and Duritskaya, then turned around and opened fire once the two passed him.

Law enforcement sources say that the surveillance was conducted by three cars who have exchanged places six times during the day at various stages of Nemtsov's and Duritskaya's travel. The investigation was able to establish this using the Potok surveillance camera system video.

Nemtsov picked up Duritskaya at the Sheremetyevo airport around 11 a.m. on February 27. Already then their Range Rover was being followed by a Chevrolet. It followed Nemtsov's car almost until Moscow, where it was replaced by the next car. The second car followed Nemtsov almost to his home on Malaya Ordinka.

In the evening, the criminals "accompanied" Nemtsov to the GUM where they saw him dismiss his chauffeur. Then it became clear that he would be returning on foot to his apartment on Malaya Ordynka. The external surveillance established over Nemtsov then gave the killer group to occupy their positions when Boris and Anna left Bosco Café around 23:22.

The car in which both the killer and his driver were sitting was parked on a side street. It made a U-turn around 23:29 under the Bolshoy Moskvoretskiy bridge, slowly approached the stairs, where the killer got out of the car. By that time Nemtsov and Duritskaya were already on the bridge. The killer waited for them on the stairs. He came out in front of them, pass them, then turned around and at 23:31 he shot Nemtsov in the back six times. Four of the bullets struck him, one of them struck Nemtsov's heart and killed him.

By that time the car which was supposed to pick up the killer had already reached the crime scene. The killer only had to run out into the street and sit in the front passenger seat. Part of the killer's vehicle route after departing the crime scene was reconstructed using video surveillance recordings.

J.Hawk's Comment: So it would seem the operation involved at least three cars and at least six individuals (counting the surveillance team that kept tabs on Nemtsov at the GUM). It really seems like too much of a coincidence that Duritskaya came to see him just when he was clearly being targeted for assassination which evidently was supposed to have happened on that or next day, and preferably somewhere close to the Kremlin. The description of the surveillance does suggest the people in question knew what they were doing.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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#24
Popular Russian Political Activist: Who Killed Boris Nemtsov and Why?

Nikolai Starikov deconstructs the Boris Nemtsov murder

http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/05/4111

Quote:In each story there is always a beneficiary. In politics, nothing happens "just like that". And even more so, no political assassinations happen "just like that".

In order to understand who would benefit from the death of Boris Nemtsov we need to analyse two things - known details of the`crime and the history of similar late incidents in Russia.

Then everything will become clear. We'll start with the details.

On February 27, 2015 Boris Nemtsov was shot dead in Moscow.

Here are the known details of the crime.

1. On the eve when opposition march scheduled for March 1, one of its organizers gets killed.

2. Nemtsov was killed right besides Kremlin.

3. He was murdered cynically - in front of witnesses. However, the girl he was with was not killed and was left as a witness.

4. The girl is from Ukraine.

5. The murder takes place February 27 - two days before the president of Russia proclaimed this day as the celebration "Day of special operations forces." People start call this "the day of polite people."

6. On the other side of the bridge, where Nemtsov was shot, there is Bolotnaya - area where the strongest opposition protests of 2011-2012 took place.

7. All of the Western and Russian liberal media is filled with photos of a dead body and place of his death "in colour". Kremlin towers at the background.

Let's summarize: it would be difficult for Kremlin to come up with more unfortunate place, time and the murder scenario should Kremlin be considered the initiator of the tragedy.

There is no answer to the question: why "bloody regime" would kill Nemtsov. Nemtsov's political rating was sharply negative. He has consistently failed all federal elections he participated in throughout his political career. He also lost his Sochi Mayor campaign. His only achievement - electoral victory in Yaroslavl regional Duma. Yaroslavl deputy parliament (with all due respect to this glorious city) for the politician of the federal scale is not a victory, rather an honorable pension, just as for Yavlinsky his work at St. Petersburg marriage registry office.

Now let us remember our recent history. (I wrote about it in 2009).

The events that happened back then are very similar to the circumstances of the murder of Boris Nemtsov. Several mysterious deaths of the "opposition" leaders took place one after another, for which Western media and our "freedom fighters" instantly accused Russia and Vladimir Putin personally. First mystery in this series of deaths was the death of Alexander Litvinenko in London, ostensibly from "polonium poisoning".

The murder was committed in a manner that no sane criminal would apply. Polonium "path" leads directly to Alexander Lugovoi, whose extradition was requested by the United Kingdoms in violation of Russian Constitution. UK receives denial and in turn flatly refuses to provide the investigation materials to Russia in order to prosecute suspect in Russian Federation if need be. The second part of the show - the ritual murder of Politkovskaya on Putin's birthday.

Yet again, we see an amazing thing - Litvinenko, who could no longer speak, suddenly whispered to his lawyer that Putin is guilty of his death. In Politkovskaya's case, from the media coverage it immediately becomes apparent to all "progressive democratic community" here and there that poor woman was killed as per Putin's order.

Almost six years passed since then - there is still no single evidence of the Russian authorities involvement in Litvinenko's death. Neither there is trial, nor sentencing. All the information was limited to hysteria and unsubstantiated allegations. Throughout 2009-2010, all liberals and all the Western media were simply screaming of Russia's and its President's quilt in the death of Litvinenko. And Politkovskaya, too.

In order to completely understand the death of Nemtsov, we also have to recall the circumstances of the death that nearly happened around the same time in 2009 ... Yegor Gaidar.

Let me remind you: that very day after the death of Alexander Litvinenko in London took place, in a close proximity, in Ireland, Yegor Gaidar suddenly fell ill from an unexplained disease. The symptoms of the disease that struck him looked like a classic poisoning: severe vomiting and nose bleeding for 35 minutes.

Yet another crime of "bloody regime" there, right? But something went wrong - the victim survived. Where the ex-prime minister should find himself afterwards? After what happened to Litvinenko? Of course in the best hospital of the United Kingdom, under heavy guard of incorruptible British police. But Gaidar knows better. Barely recovering himself, the very next morning (!) he demanded to be sent home immediately. He instantly left for Moscow, not even waiting for the results of his medical tests.

If we assume, like Western media did, that it was an assassination attempt by Russian secret service, then Gaidar's actions are close to idiocy. Instead of staying in a democratic country, where he supposedly would be protected, rather then staying in the first-class London clinic, Yegor fled to Russia, closer to the very "bloody regime" that has just supposedly organized his poisoning. Why? To minimize his supposed killers' efforts?

Should we continue to consider Western media version, then Gaidar's behavior would seem totally strange to us. And vice versa - it all becomes logical and reasonable if we give up on it. Gaidar was well aware that a campaign to discredit Russia had launched and adding his name to the list of the mysteriously dead "freedom fighters" was not in his plans. To him it was absolutely clear that once he goes to a wonderful London or Dublin hospital, he would never exit it alive. That's exactly why he left to get his treatment in Moscow so quickly and decisively. He knew that only so-called "bloody regime" will keep him perfectly safe.

Upon his arrival to Moscow, Gaidar immediately made a statement that Kremlin had nothing to do with his health problems. Exactly the same statement was made by Anatoly Chubais. There were no other health problems with "Russian reformer". There is no any mystical explanation of what happened to him in Ireland - Gaidar died his natural death much later.

So who needs the death of Russian opposition leaders? For Russian authorities it only brings harm, direct damage. Informational campaigning, allegations, rallying the enemies of the Kremlin, the opportunity for the West to blame and demand, spoiled our image worldwide. Same with the case of Nemtsov's murder. Poroshenko has already accused Russia in the death of "the best friend of Ukraine" in his interview to Ukrainian TV.

Why would Russian authorities do it if Nemtsov himself is not dangerous, his party has negative rating and opposition event scheduled for March 1 in Moscow has clearly exhausted even prior its start? After all, the other two main "opposition locomotive leaders" are definitely missing the event. Navalnyi is detained for 15 days, Khodorkovsky stays by Geneva Lake and is not going to visit Russia. Yet the opposition event organisers "suddenly" decide to hold the event in a distant Moscow residential area...

Back in 2009, I described principles and reasons of why "revolutionaries" curators kill their wards. They make them victims of ... expediency.

"The logic of the killers is solid. They select to murder those who are currently heard, who loudly criticise the authorities at the moment. At least they should loudly criticise Ramzan Kadyrov… Then an assassination follows. The corpse is always demonstrated, even if the victim is kidnapped. And the verdict is always readily available. Western TV will clearly explain - government in Russia kills it's critics. What would be the reaction in the West following such notions? Right - fear. And they are ready to believe anything. For instance the notion that 08.08.08 Russia the terrible sent by-inveterate criminals to attack small Georgia. Do you still believe that the West has no benefit from deaths of those who are so fond of it?

Hence the advice to "human rights activists". Dear you, we need you to be alive. Say, you hate your country, and get funded by various ways from the West. We need you alive. Please, understand that Russian government will never kill you. With your "human rights activities" you will never inflict so much damage to your homeland as with your premature death from hands of the killers. I beg you - do not criticise Russia and its leadership on the eve of important international meetings. Take care of your life. Do not give a reason to your foreign partners choosing you as a sacral victim! Follow the example of wise Yegor Gaidar. Once there was an attempted poisoning there, there was no word of criticism spoken by him".

Let us repeat:

Western curators of Russian "freedom fighters" are always ready to sacrifice them, if their death will benefit them more.

Cynical? Extremely. But this is politics, at its highest international level. No sentiments.

The most important question is: how the sacral victims are appointed? Three criteria:

1. Victim's death should be resonant.

2. This death should bring more benefits than life and "struggle" of potential sacral victim.

3. Before being killed, victim must make a number of high-profile "accusatory" public statements, which will enable them to blame Russian authorities in such murder.

Does Boris Nemtsov fall under all of these criteria? Alas, yes. His death caused great resonance, he was unable to win elections at the federal level. What about his public statement?

There was one. Just two weeks ago, Boris Nemtsov gave an interview to "Sobesednik" magazine. The headline immediately "explains" who killed Nemtsov February 27: "I'm afraid that Putin will kill me."

The small article quotes the words of Boris Nemtsov about his mother being afraid that Putin would kill her son for no reasons. How could Boris Nemtsov give such an interview? Did he loose his former grip and sense?

"A well-known politician Boris Nemtsov fears that Russian President Vladimir Putin will doom him for his opposition statements. The known politician has not expressed his concerns until now and shared those only with the closest person - his mother, but finally decided to share it publicly- via"Sobesednik" magazine"…

Short text - all in one. Interesting article ending: "Nemtsov says hello from him and my mother to Dmitryi Bykov". The response of the interviewing journalist is as follows: "Thank you, we will convey your "Hello". I hope the same common sense will prevail and Putin will not kill you. "

February 10, 2015 Nemtsov gives his fateful interview. Almost at the same time, Alexei Navalny is making every effort to ... get himself in jail. Violates Law, cuts his bracelet, distributes leaflets in the metro without prior due notice to authorities and - bingo - gets retained in jail for 15 days. And note (!) all of this so that the eve of an opposition rally on March 1 he become unavailable for potential assassins. Besides, prior the start of his illegal actions, he also said a lot of similar things, that could potentially "explain" why he was shot at the street or by the entrance.

Interestingly enough, in December of 2012 Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin covered the topic of so-called "sacral victim" technology that is used by our geopolitical rivals.

But the "opposition leaders" consider themselves smarter than anybody else. They think that their masters in the US and the UK will always love them. Probably gobies standing in the stall, are also convinced that their Master will always feed them and scratch behind the ear, yet all the talk of sending them for slaughter is an empty chatter.

What else can I say?

Killing a person is always disgusting, even if this person's views do not coincide with yours. But hypocrisy and double standards are not less disgusting. Especially when the tears and condolences are poured just for those whose views coincide with the political position of Washington and Brussels.

The tenth of such tribulation, poured today on Nemtsov's death from mainstream media, online opposition leaders' blogs, of heartfelt words of the West would have been enough to prevent deaths of a large number of women, children and elderly in Donbas. If one-tenth of today's resentment, grief and sympathy would be exercised in respect of little Vanya from Donbas, who got shot by a Ukrainian missile, the war there would have been stopped, and people would cease to die ...

P.S. Have just received a letter from one of my readers:

"Whilst watching 'Russia-24' in the evening I suddenly got a 'ticker' about the murder of Nemtsov. 25 minutes later, I decided to turn to Euronews TV channel and there was a story about Nemtsov! Usually, any report from Russia comes to Euronews with some delay (1.5-3 hours), but there it was, instantly."

In 1905, after the shooting on "Bloody Sunday" in St. Petersburg, printed leaflets about that shooting and thousands of victims were instantly distributed. Leaflets were printed in advance..
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"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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Was the eyewitness to the murder of Boris Nemtsov recruited by SBU chief Nalyvaychenko?

March 5, 2015

From: Versia.ru https://versia.ru/ochevidicu-ubijstva-bo...ivajchenko

Translated by Petri Krohn

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/w...boris.html

Quote:The companion of Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov, who was killed last Friday in the center of Moscow, was recruited by the Security Service of Ukraine in September last year. Versia.RU received this information from Russian political scientist and member of the Public Chamber Sergey Markov. Versia.RU found new details of the so-called "Ukrainian trace" in the murder of the Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov. We have previously reported that Anna Duritskaya who accompanied Nemtsov on the fateful evening, was in a relationship with a member of the Ukrainian parliament Yuri Bezera, who concurrently holds the position of commander of "Dnepr-1" Battalion .

Sergey Markov, Russian political scientist and member of the Public Chamber commented to Versia.RU: "My personal opinion is that the murder was organized by the head of the SBU Valentin Nalyvaychenko to cause an uproar in Moscow." The correspondent of Versia.RU was told the escort Anna Duritskaya may have actually been recruited by the SBU last fall -at the time they were only interested in Ukrainian counterintelligence and not her Russian lover Nemtsov. At the same time of the affair with Nemtsov, Duritskaya, as confirmed by her close friends, had a special relationship with the National Guard battalion commander Yuri Bezera, a confidant of the Dnepropetrovsk oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. The aim of SBU operatives in recruiting Duritskaya was to "dig" compromising information on Bezera, and if they were lucky, on Kolomoiskiy himself. The fact that the photo model was in a relationship with battalion commander Yuri Bezera was revealed by the sister of Anna, who lives in Nizhnevartovsk, but occasionally visits Dnepropetrovsk.

By the way, according to the news portal "PolitKlub.ru" the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation did not refute the information that in the case of the murder of Nemtsov operational data has appeared to support the version of the involvement of the SBU in the death of the politician. Apparently, in Kiev has already started covering their tracks: Ukrainian news agencies reported today that the missing girl's parents - they allegedly left Kiev to the dacha and disappeared down the road.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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By John Helmer, Moscow
When you have been the target of assassination by a powerful figure in Russia, as I have, and you survive the hit, as I did, you learn one thing or two things before; more in retrospect. One is that the Moscow police act quickly and competently, as they would elsewhere so swiftly, in fact, that the powerful figure may not have the time to close down the investigation before the evidence can be saved. A second is that even hits ordered by powerful figures generate a trail of planning and positioning they didn't intend to leave behind, pointing to their identity, and that in turn to their motive. A third is that in Moscow assassinations the place of ambush is always selected to raise the probability of success for the assassins, the hit, and the getaway never the chances of survival for the victim. The fourth is that if the target is lucky, the assassination plan is interrupted by an unforeseeable mistake in placement or timing; a weapon fault; a passing witness; or a lucky circumstance.
On the physical evidence of what happened in the 30 minutes preceding the February 27 murder of Boris Nemtsov, the probability of his being attacked on Bolshoi Moskovoretsky Bridge was one in thirty-six (less than 3%). Nemtsov wasn't just unlucky: his assassins were correspondingly fortunate, more than they could have planned.

Nemtsov wasn't dressed for his ill-luck. Not a single western or Russian version of the evidence so far has noticed the clue that is starkly obvious from the photographic record. Nemtsov walked repeat walked into an ambush whose 325-second record can be studied here. The evidence has been viewed more than 306,000 times. From the photographs of his body on the pavement, and from the film clip of his entering Bosco Café it is certain Nemtsov was dressed in a pullover under a light jacket, jeans, and soft shoes. He wasn't wearing a winter coat, hat, or gloves. No Muscovite would be without them for the 30 minutes required to walk through the city late on a winter's night, at a temperature close to freezing, from GUM to Malaya Ordynka Street, No. 3, where Nemtsov lived. No photograph of passersby in the vicinity that night showed dress as light as Nemtsov's.
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Ask yourself why, if Nemtsov had reason to believe he was the target of assassination, as he claimed to the press, he would decide to expose himself unguarded in the precincts of the man Nemtsov claimed to be his mortal enemy. And even if you suppose Nemtsov was imprudent (brave, reckless) about that risk, ask why he would risk catching cold by walking instead of taking a taxi, as his mode of dress indicates he arranged for his arrival at the restaurant and intended for his trip home. Also, ask yourself why the media speculation and the editorials of those purporting to be Nemtsov's friends have signally failed to notice the discrepancy between what Nemtsov was wearing, what his companion was wearing, and the meaning of the physical evidence.
The photographic record now available was generated in GUM's First-Line passageway, outside Bosco Cafe, as Nemtsov arrived, then walked through the restaurant door; followed by his companion, Anna Duritskaya, a few seconds later. The clip runs for 38 seconds. Duritskaya was wearing winter costume knee-length padded coat, calf-high fur boots, gloves.
The video clip of the assassination itself on the bridge runs for 5:25 minutes; it is more difficult to decipher. However, it is now clear that the attack took place from the footpath, while in the roadway the getaway car slowed down to let a snow-clearance truck pass by Nemtsov. At 23:31:15, when the truck screens Nemtsov from the camera, he is shot. The shooter is then visible between 23:31:15 and 19; he is running towards the car. At 23:31:20 the car appears to slow to a stop. Four to five seconds later, the exhaust plume shows acceleration away from the shooting position, the gunman on board.
The colour of the vehicle appears not to be white, as Duritskaya has reportedly claimed. The arrival of the police on the scene is at 23:42 11 minutes after the shots were fired.
The number of bullets fired has been variously reported as 6 to 8 from a Makarov semi-automatic pistol, which can be equipped with a magazine of 8, 10 or 12 rounds. Police forensics can establish how many shots can be fired from this weapon in 4 to 5 mini-seconds. The crime scene investigation should have counted how many cartridges were dropped on to the roadway and pavement, and how many bullet impacts were found. The location of the impacts, cartridges, and the autopsy evidence will confirm with accuracy whether the first shot was fired from in front of Nemtsov, then three from behind him on the pavement, or at an angle from the truck.
For the getaway driver and the shooter to be confident of making their escape, the problem of concealment should have been greater in their parking position, before the car started out towards the bridge, than after the attack as the car cleared the bridge and drove south along Bolshaya Ordynka. So far, such evidence as exists of the car making its preliminary way from the Lubyanka or Kitai-Gorod towards the bridge is undisclosed.
But go back to the clue Nemtsov himself provided. Tracking his position by telephone signal fix is so sophisticated these days for government services and commercial killers, alike his position can have been monitored to between 10 and 30 metres lethal range. The technology cannot predict intention. Once he started out of the restaurant, Nemtsov had his choice of 8 exit doors on to three streets Nikolskaya, Vetoshny, and Ilyinka. Once on the street, Nemtsov then had two options left or right. On Ilyinka, the route Nemtsov chose, he turned right and headed towards, then across Red Square, in front of St. Basil's Cathedral.
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http://www.gweep.net

He then had the choice of taking a cab or walking across the bridge. Duritskaya has testified that there was a discussion on the point she wanted to take a taxi, she claims, and Nemtsov wanted to walk. From the second Nemtsov started out the restaurant door, the probability he would make the fateful choice to walk across the bridge was 1 in 36.
With what probability can the attackers have anticipated Nemtsov's move and with what confidence to position the assassin on the stairs, or in the passage under the bridge, or in the snow truck, in advance of Nemtsov's arrival on foot? Is the probability more sure, from the assassins' point of view, that they would have enough time to drive from their parked position to make the attack point and rendezvous with the shooter? Were the probabilities in the fluke range that Nemtsov could be gunned down with St. Basil's and the Kremlin Wall visible in the background?
The grander the conspiracy theory of this murder, the further removed it becomes from the physical evidence Nemtsov himself provided and from the probabilities of the assassination plot, as the record shows it turned out.
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sorry pasting didn't work, see url
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Jan van den Baard Wrote:sorry pasting didn't work, see url
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=12873

Jan, hope you don't mind but I've fixed the text colour in your above post to black. The problem was that it was white in the original (I've been caught out this way before too).

David
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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I don't see it as likely that Nemstov, or any one else who lived in Moscow, would be taking a long walk at night in the clothes he was wearing. Insane. It is winter there. But I can imagine a foreign poptart tool saying "Oh, please show me the night sights of Moscow it looks so beautiful over the water there"
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:I don't see it as likely that Nemstov, or any one else who lived in Moscow, would be taking a long walk at night in the clothes he was wearing. Insane. It is winter there. But I can imagine a foreign poptart tool saying "Oh, please show me the night sights of Moscow it looks so beautiful over the water there"

Actually, having lived through some bitter Minnesota winters, the description of freezing level temperatures brings back memories. When the temperatures get up to just barely above zero F, and well below zero C, I remember feeling like I was in heaven. To actually reach freezing, oh the joy. Then if the pop tart says, Oh, let's just walk, it feels so romantic. And then whispers, I'll warm you up big boy. Put that all together, I can easily imagine him walking dressed like that. I've done it -- minus the pop tart, that is.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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