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Probably the biggest mistake that the JFK assassination research community has made over the last 50 years is endlessly debating "the reason" for the assassination, as though there was only one of them.
It is 2015 and people are still asking the question "who did it?"
It is important to understand that these questions are meaningless unless and until we, a) define our terms, and b) place them within a coherent analytical framework.
It is this lack of logical rigour that has had every nebulous entity imaginable, from "the CIA" to "the mob" to "the military industrial complex", floated as potential Sponsors of the assassination. And none of them are.
To be honest, it makes my fucking head hurt.
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I don't recall Burnham saying anything about Johnson, I do recall him talking about Bundy and NSAM 273. Also, if you are supposing that reversing course on JFK's peaceable nature was the primary driver behind the assassination, again, why not make the first reverse JFK's promise not to invade Cuba? Cuba is the war that the military wanted, after all, dating from the Monroe doctrine, to Bay of Pigs, to the missile crisis.
Why select the far-off and (militarily) insignificant country of Vietnam as the place to push back?
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The plotters, as a result of all their hard work killing Kennedy, didn't get their war with Cuba, or Russia, or anyone else, other than the gradual buildup in Vietnam, because LBJ (fearing "World War III") put the kabosh on all the carefully laid "evidence" that Castro did it. The record seems pretty clear about that.
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Then how did Johnson survive his term? Why stop at JFK to get a war that was that damn important?
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It might seem a little obvious to knock off two sitting presidents in succession, but why speculate about what didn't happen?
What DID happen was that the Killing of President Kennedy was supposed to be pinned on Castro. The "evidence" is abundant.
From Harvey Oswald's "Fair Play for Cuba" drama in front of Shaw's Trade Mart (with a "Viva Castro" sign on his back, no less) to Ruby's clarification of said organization at the Dallas press conference right after the assassination, and so many points in between.
Such as all those alleged visits to the Cuban Consulate in Mexico City when our boy was supposedly "defecting" for the SECOND TIME!!! And how 'bout that terrific story the CIA's David Atlee Phillips tried to set in motion when he got CIA snitch Gilberta Alvarado Ugarte to say he saw "Lee Harvey Oswald" accept a big bag o' money inside the Cuban Consulate to kill JFK! Not too obvious eh?
Or how 'bout the time "Lee Harvey Oswald" visited Castro's friend and personnel gun runner Robert McKeown and offered a laughable amount of money for a high-powered rifle? Good thing McKeown smelled a rat, or no doubt one of his rifles would have turned up on the sixth floor of a certain book depository in Dallas.
LBJ came to office, worked closely with J. Edgar Hoover to solve the case in less than 48 hours, and then hired the Warren Commission to cover up EVERYTHING!! Which, with a complicit media, is exactly what happened.
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They probably thought their cover was blown once the Soviet Union went to high alert after the assassination. They lost the advantage and window. There would be no point in attacking Cuba because it would be no joy if total nuclear annihilation followed soon after.
Instead they decided to return the favor to Russia and China by giving them a hot foot in Viet Nam with a hot war.
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Drew Phipps Wrote:Albert seems to be suggesting that the Armed Forces carried out the assassination then changed their mind about the ensuing war. I wonder why, after succeeding in the coup, the plotters wouldn't get what they wanted.
Tracy seems to be suggesting that the plotters were farther removed from foreign policy decisions than the "Establishment." That phrase (when capitalized) usually refers to moneyed interests centered in the northeastern part of the US, commonly believed to control a) the economy and b) the political process. Do you then agree Tracy, that the plotters were military? Or have I misunderstood the use of the word establishment in this context?
Yes, my opinion is that elements in the military and intelligence community were the organizers of the plot. I know others here disagree with me (the Evica/Drago model).
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Ok, I'm glad I understood you correctly.
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:Yes, my opinion is that elements in the military and intelligence community were the organizers of the plot.
You are anything but alone, Tracy.
Tracy Riddle Wrote:I know others here disagree with me (the Evica/Drago model).
The proposition that Allen Dulles needed or sought permission from anyone within the American power structure was, by 1963, an absurdity. What Dulles disposed, those above him - socially, economically, intellectually - adapted or acceded to.
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Paul Rigby Wrote:The proposition that Allen Dulles needed or sought permission from anyone within the American power structure was, by 1963, an absurdity. What Dulles disposed, those above him - socially, economically, intellectually - adapted or acceded to.
Which is exactly why JFK tried to control him and exactly why they murdered JFK for it.
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