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Al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden 'dead'. Again.
If the walk-in wasn't about Bin Laden then how did the ISI agent get 25 million and why did he have to be moved to the US for protection?
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http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/05/14/gat...abad-raid/


Gatekeeper or Dupe? Seymour Hersh's new false narrative of the Abbottabad raid 8

by James Tracy Guest Posts Tags: 9/11, journalism, news media analysis, public opinion, war on terror


Submitted by Vivian Lee

The great investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has written another blockbuster, this time about the raid on the complex at Abbottabad, Pakistan, that allegedly took out Osama bin Laden, the alleged perpetrator of the 9/11 attacks. His new article for the London Review of Books purports to blow the lid off the fake story conveyed by the Obama White House about the raid of May 1, 2011.[2] Hersh reveals several clear falsehoods inherent in the official story, only to manufacture many of his own.

The article, "The Killing of Osama bin Laden," begins by stating that "a group of US Navy SEALs assassinated Osama bin Laden in a night raid on a high-walled compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan," a thesis that has been disproven again and again. Evidence suggests that bin Laden was, in fact, dead by the end of 2001.[3]

Hersh's article is crammed full of perplexing details, personae, and allegations, providing a maze of red herrings that serve to substantiate the official story of 9/11 and the myth of Osama bin Laden while supposedly supplying the truth for the very first time. His thesis rests on a wealth of information provided by his #1 source, "a retired intelligence official who was knowledgeable about the initial intelligence about bin Laden's presence in Abbottabad" and "privy to many aspects of the SEALs' training for the raid, and to the various after-action reports."

We learn that it was a "walk-in" in 2010 a former Pakistani intelligence officer who first alerted the CIA station chief in Islamabad about bin Laden's whereabouts. Contrary to the official story, we see that Pakistan had indeed been aware of bin Laden's residence in Abbottabad. Indeed, Pakistan's ISI had supposedly been holding him in the compound since 2006.

Furthermore, we learn that there was no "firefight" involved in his killing, which was originally said to have been carried out in self defense. According to Hersh's #1 source, the SEALs blew open the doors to bin Laden's third-floor rooms and murdered the unarmed invalid cowering in his bedroom: a "very simple, very straightforward, very professional hit." In addition, there was no "treasure trove" of terrorist materials, as reported, consisting of computers, flash drives, videos, and documents relating to al-Qaeda.

Obama was not supposed to reveal the raid at all, according to Hersh, let alone make statements not fully vetted by the U.S. security apparatus. Instead, the plan was to collect bin Laden's DNA in advance, conduct the raid, wait a week or so, and then announce that bin Laden had been killed in a drone attack in the Hindu Kush and had been identified by DNA samples collected after his death. Finally, bin Laden was not buried at sea following proper Islamic burial procedures aboard the USS Carl Vinson. No his remains were thrown unceremoniously into a body bag, after being blown to bits by rifle fire in his bedroom, and body parts were reportedly flung out of the SEALs' helicopter on the flight back to Jalalabad.

A fantastic, bombastic exposé by Sy Hersh, filled with outrageous allegations and peppered with salty language and street lingo. But what does it tell us, besides the fact that the government, armed forces, and intelligence services lie to the American public?

First of all, it serves to substantiate the myth of al-Qaeda terrorist Osama bin Laden, who supposedly managed to elude the U.S. dragnet for a decade, supported by reported samples of his DNA (DNA evidence is a major feature of Hersh's story). Second, it attempts to replace the ridiculous narrative of the Abbottabad raid with something seemingly more believable. Third, and perhaps most important, it buoys up the official story of 9/11 and bin Laden's role in the false-flag operation. Finally, it accuses Obama of approving the Abbottabad raid and lying about it in order to increase his standing in the run-up to the 2012 election.

There is much, much more to Hersh's 10,000 word article. Sadly, none of his contentions are true they cannot be, since Osama bin Laden was not killed in Abbottabad in 2011. Why would this respected journalist convey such obvious disinformation? Either he is a gatekeeper suggested by his immediate appearance to discuss his article on the gatekeeper program, Democracy Now! or he is a dupe, actually believing what his source #1 has told him.[4]

Is this a case of "spy vs. spy" with contending factions pushing their various stories through established journalists? Is Hersh working for the neocons or even the Israeli government? Is he striking out not only at Obama but at all future contenders, reminding them of their real positions with respect to their overlords? Whatever the purpose, it's a sad day for Hersh the winner of the George Orwell Award for Distinguished Contribution to Honesty and Clarity in Public Language and for American investigative journalism.[5]


Vivian Lee is the nom de plume of a tenured professor at a US east coast university.

Notes

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

[2] http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-h...-bin-laden

[3] http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-s-big...aden/24594 ; http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-died-...tion/24753 ; http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-l...live/15601 ; http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-l...e/5358889; et al.

[4] http://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/12/se...e_story_on

[5] http://www.ncte.org/volunteer/groups/pub...rwellaward
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Books allegedly found in Bin Laden's collection. Translation = anyone who read these is a conspiracy theorist/terrorist/subversive.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/terr...d=31173365
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They have also now released an "Al Qaeda application form." I am not making this up. How much more idiotic and ridiculous can this stuff get?
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http://www.dni.gov/index.php/resources/b...lf?start=1

On May 20, 2015, the ODNI released a sizeable tranche of documents recovered during the raid on the compound used to hide Usama bin Ladin. The release, which followed a rigorous interagency review, aligns with the President's call for increased transparencyconsistent with national security prerogativesand the 2014 Intelligence Authorization Act, which required the ODNI to conduct a review of the documents for release.

The release contains two sections. The first is a list of non-classified, English-language material found in and around the compound. The second is a selection of now-declassified documents.

The Intelligence Community will be reviewing hundreds more documents in the near future for possible declassification and release. An interagency taskforce under the auspices of the White House and with the agreement of the DNI is reviewing all documents which supported disseminated intelligence cables, as well as other relevant material found around the compound. All documents whose publication will not hurt ongoing operations against al-Qaida or their affiliates will be released.

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Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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I haven't visited this forum for a while but needed somewhere to vent about this latest bin Laden nonsense.


Seymour Hersh's article is clearly disinfo, it replaces one absurd narrative with an equally absurd one whilst bolstering the core thesis that they really did kill OBL. And all based on a story from an anonymous spook. The furious reaction and the fact that he had to publish in the LRB because no one would publish it in the US is all part of the choreography.


And then we have this garbage about bin Laden's books. How the spooks at the Pentagon Psy-op division must have laughed as they thought up the titles: 9/11 Truther stuff, Chomsky etc. And now all the MSM journalists and BBC Security experts' (i.e useful idiots) are discussing what the titles all mean.


According to the official narrative, as provided by the Pentagon, the alleged burial at sea of OBL took place at noon local time on board the USS Carl Vinson and lasted 50 minutes. And yet not one of the 3,200 ship's complement saw it. This is patently impossible. Instead of discussing a load of unverifiable books why aren't they challenging this absurd narrative?


Oh… I know why. As Chomsky said, if they were the sort of people to do that they would not be in the position they are in now.
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I'm pleased to see that OBL is relatively well read. Better read than most Mericans.
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Jimmie Moglia of Your Daily Shakespeare puts it like this:


To conclude, the Administration has shown great alacrity of enterprise in organizing the death of Osama Bin Laden, including the genius of making him die twice. And I refuse to say which of the two versions is true. For even denying that it is impossible to die twice, may be construed as a symptom of conspiracy theorizing, a sinful rejection of belief due to incredibility.

Many believe that gross and ever-widening mendacity is indispensable to current American foreign and domestic policy. For the role of the US government is to defend the interests of a few thousand individuals, while pretending to represent the American people as a whole. Lying is therefore intrinsic to its operation.

Naturally, the regime media is the anointed instrument of mass deception. But the general silence and perceived mass indifference to even colossal misrepresentations is a good index. Namely that the commandment to believe anything, provided it is quite incredible, has found a wide, willing and captive audience. It would be tempting to give a persona to judgment and exclaim, "O judgment, thou art fled to brutish beasts and men have lost their reason."(5) But that would be a useless cry. For in our deeply Orwellian world ignorance is strength where strength also implies the belief in the incredible and the accompanying ignorance of evidence. In the end, as we ponder on our inability to change anything, we are left to play the fool with the times, while the spirits of the wise sit in the clouds and mock us. (6)

5. Julius Caesar
6. King Henry IV, part 2
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[TD="class: artbody"]A son of Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden asked the United States for a death certificate after US Navy SEALS killed him, said a letter released by WikiLeaks Thursday.

The letter, stating it is from the US embassy in Riyadh, is among about 70,000 documents dubbed "The Saudi Cables" the whistleblower website published.
They are among more than half a million cables and other documents from the Saudi foreign ministry and other institutions in the kingdom which WikiLeaks says it will release over the coming weeks.
The letter is signed by Glen Keiser, the US consul general in Riyadh and addressed to Abdullah bin Laden on September 9, 2011, about four months after a US raid killed his father in Pakistan after a decade-long manhunt.

"I have received your request for a death certificate for your father, Osama bin Laden," Keiser wrote.
Legal experts in the State Department advised that no such document was issued, he said.
"This is consistent with regular practice for individuals killed in the course of military operations."
Instead, Keiser provided Abdullah bin Laden with US court records in which officials confirmed his father's death and, as a result, dropped a criminal case against him.
"I hope that these US government documents are of assistance to you and your family," Keiser said.
The bin Ladens are a prominent Saudi business family. The kingdom stripped Osama bin Laden of citizenship in 1994.



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https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/...3776a6e3c3
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