01-07-2015, 07:15 PM
Martin White Wrote:I was watching a programme this afternoon about the assassination of Lincoln, and it stated that the assembled masses outside the house where Lincoln was taken first knew he was dead when they saw a coffin being delivered.
This set me thinking about the delivery of the casket to Parkland. Was this done after JFK's death was publicly announced at 1.38 CST? If not, I'm presuming that it was delivered to a back entrance to the hospital? Even so, with the number of reporters there, did none of them think to have anyone looking at the rear entrances? Did the arrival of the O'Neil car carrying the casket not catch anyone's attention? Or was it delivered in an unmarked car? Did no one see it being unloaded?
Actually, the general role of O'Neil's confuses me. Was it just a funeral home, or did they supply ambulances as well? I'm sure I saw that the ambulance that carried Oswald to Parkland was marked O'Neil on the side?
Thanks in advance to anyone that can clear this up. :-)
Well let's see Martin...
The limo carried JFK to Parkland, not an ambulance.
The hearse from O'Neil Funeral Home transports the casket to Parkland to retrieve JFK AFTER Rose would have performed the autopsy to perform the embalming.
Mr. KELLERMAN. My next move, then, my next part in this was--by this time it was
after 1 o'clock--I am trying to pinpoint time after 1, because Dr. Burkley said
that the President had died; it was after 1 o'clock. By this time other people
who were in with Mr. Kennedy, such as his staff--I am speaking of Mr. O'Donnell,
Mr. Powers, I believe Larry O'Brien--through them, and I believe Mr. Hill, they
had obtained a casket from one of the funeral people in town.
Instead they took JFK and the casket to Love Field.
What I find strange about this testimony is that Rose did the Tippit and Oswald autopsies at Parkland. There would be no reason to take the body to the mortuary to perform an autopsy. Furthermore, it is obviously a HEARSE not an ambulance - but that's an understandable mistake.
As you can see, there is no "O'Neal" on the side of this hearse. The Navy Ambulance at Andrews does have writing on the side.
Hope that helped.
DJ
Mr. KELLERMAN. This I can't truly answer. However, I should say that, as for the
casket being brought into the hospital, another gentleman came into this little
doctor's room, his name I don't recall, but he represented himself to be from
the Health Department or commission, some form. He said to me, he said, "There
has been a homicide here, you won't be able to remove the body. We will have to
take it down there to the mortuary and have an autopsy." I said, "No, we are
not." And he said, "We have a law here whereby you have to comply with
it."
With that Dr. Burkley walked in, and I said Doctor, this man is from
some health unit in town. He tells me we can't remove this body." The Doctor
became a little enraged; he said, "We are removing it." He said, "This is the
President of the United States and there should be some consideration in an
event like this." And I told this gentleman, I said, "You are going to have to
come up with something a little stronger than you to give me the law that this
body can't be removed."
So, he frantically called everybody he could think of
and he hasn't got an answer; nobody is home. Shortly he leaves this little room
and it seems like a few minutes he is back and he has another gentleman with
him, and he said, "This is"--the name escapes me he said, "He is a judge here in
Dallas," and he said, "He will tell you whether you can remove this body or
not." I said, "It doesn't make any difference. We are going to move it," and I
said, "Judge, do you know who I am?"
And he said, "Yes," and I said, "There
must be something in your thinking here that we don't have to go through this
agony; the family doesn't have to go through this. We will take care of the
matter when we get back to Washington." The poor man looked at me and he said,
"I know who you are," and he said, "I can't help you out." I said. "All right,
sir." But then I happened to look to the right and I can see the casket coming
on rollers, and I just left the room and let it out through the emergency
entrance and we got to the ambulance and put it in, shut the door after Mrs.
Kennedy and General McHugh and Clinton Hill in the rear part of this
ambulance.
I am looking around for Mr. Greer and I don't spot him directly
because I want to get out of here in a hurry, and I recognize Agent Berger and I
said, "Berger, you get in the front seat and drive and, Mr. Stout, you get in
the middle and I will get on this side," and as we are leaving--Mr. Lawson, I
should say, was in a police car that led us away from Parkland Memorial
Hospital. As we are leaving a gentleman taps on the driver's window and they
roll it down and he says, "I will meet you at the mortuary." "Yes, sir." We went
to the airport, gentlemen.
This is the delivery of the casket in the O'Neal Hearse
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter