06-07-2015, 09:15 PM
I am trying to finish a piece on the Rifle and Pistol for CTKA yet the Money Order investigation has taken me into an area I had never known about before...
By placing the known info regarding the search for the Money Order on a timeline from a handful of sources... I come to find that there is evidence for it being found in both Kansas City AND Alexandria, VA....
Below is an overlay of WCD87 p89 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...9&tab=page and CE1799.
I'm in the process of unraveling the report conflicts now... Suffice to say, with the understanding that the Evidence IS the Conspiracy, the "creation" of this Money order at the Postal Records Center in Alexandria
It appears as if SSSA Griffiths in CHICAGO, while talking to SSSA Stewart in DALLAS at 7:55pm 11/23, tells him that SSSA Kroz in KANSAS CITY is trying to ascertain the statusof the PMO in KC. During the conversation with Stewart in DALLAS, Griffiths in CHICAGO learns that the PMO has been recovered by Postal Inspectors.
"During the course of the conversation with Stewart(Dallas), Griffiths(Chicago) was told that the PMO has been recovered by Postal Inspectors" - is how the report reads. Whether he was told by Stewart is not clear since that would require Stewart in Dallas to learn about finding the PMO from DC? In the next paragraph, SSSA Kroz in KC is called and told that the PMO was "recovered" and forwarded to SS Asst Chief PATERNI in DC.
WCD87 p119 starts with PATERNI asking SSSA Geiglein (DC) at 8:30pm 11/23 to LOCATE AND OBTAIN "PMO 2,202,130,462 dated March 12, 1963, for $21.45 payable to Klein's by Alek James Hidell". and that if the original IS NOT AVAILABLE, that photostats be obtained.
Except according to the Chicago SS (WCD87 p94) report of Tucker (Chicago) and Griffiths, PATERNI has the PMO on its way to his office by 7:55pm.
What follows this request is Geiglein calling Postal Inspector Josephs Verant in DC, giving Verant the PMO detailed info... (which I have to say out loud looks as if that info is all that's needed to create a PMO)
Amazingly, on the SATURDAY AFTERNOON, Verant is able to contact a Post Office Dept staff Finance Officer who in turn opens the door to a new set of people including Donald Duggin, Deputy Chief Postal Insp Service in DC, who this Finance officer claims contacted him about an hour earlier about the same subject.
I'd rather not give away the entire process and allow the essay to provide context. The timeline will be included in the essay... Suffice to say, it certainly appears to me as if the person who ultimately provides the PMO to the Secret Service created it that evening based on the info provided by PATERNI.
I hope to be including the Pistol Evidence Analysis along with this in the same essay..
DJ
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By placing the known info regarding the search for the Money Order on a timeline from a handful of sources... I come to find that there is evidence for it being found in both Kansas City AND Alexandria, VA....
Below is an overlay of WCD87 p89 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...9&tab=page and CE1799.
I'm in the process of unraveling the report conflicts now... Suffice to say, with the understanding that the Evidence IS the Conspiracy, the "creation" of this Money order at the Postal Records Center in Alexandria
It appears as if SSSA Griffiths in CHICAGO, while talking to SSSA Stewart in DALLAS at 7:55pm 11/23, tells him that SSSA Kroz in KANSAS CITY is trying to ascertain the statusof the PMO in KC. During the conversation with Stewart in DALLAS, Griffiths in CHICAGO learns that the PMO has been recovered by Postal Inspectors.
"During the course of the conversation with Stewart(Dallas), Griffiths(Chicago) was told that the PMO has been recovered by Postal Inspectors" - is how the report reads. Whether he was told by Stewart is not clear since that would require Stewart in Dallas to learn about finding the PMO from DC? In the next paragraph, SSSA Kroz in KC is called and told that the PMO was "recovered" and forwarded to SS Asst Chief PATERNI in DC.
WCD87 p119 starts with PATERNI asking SSSA Geiglein (DC) at 8:30pm 11/23 to LOCATE AND OBTAIN "PMO 2,202,130,462 dated March 12, 1963, for $21.45 payable to Klein's by Alek James Hidell". and that if the original IS NOT AVAILABLE, that photostats be obtained.
Except according to the Chicago SS (WCD87 p94) report of Tucker (Chicago) and Griffiths, PATERNI has the PMO on its way to his office by 7:55pm.
What follows this request is Geiglein calling Postal Inspector Josephs Verant in DC, giving Verant the PMO detailed info... (which I have to say out loud looks as if that info is all that's needed to create a PMO)
Amazingly, on the SATURDAY AFTERNOON, Verant is able to contact a Post Office Dept staff Finance Officer who in turn opens the door to a new set of people including Donald Duggin, Deputy Chief Postal Insp Service in DC, who this Finance officer claims contacted him about an hour earlier about the same subject.
I'd rather not give away the entire process and allow the essay to provide context. The timeline will be included in the essay... Suffice to say, it certainly appears to me as if the person who ultimately provides the PMO to the Secret Service created it that evening based on the info provided by PATERNI.
I hope to be including the Pistol Evidence Analysis along with this in the same essay..
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter