Ralph Yates

[Tom Scully]

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I don't understand what part of the FBI telling Dorothy Yates that Ralph passed the lie detector test, and that it showed that he thought what he was saying was true, Parker doesn't get? And Parker asks us to side with the FBI and take their word on their interpretation of this? He also asks us to ignore that the passed polygraph confirms the details of the rifle, backyard photos, conversation, and, most importantly, the unknown hitch-hiker. Parker needs to directly answer how Yates could be cracking up from stress over his homosexual activity with Crafard and calmly passing a lie detector test showing this man to be a hitch-hiker and stranger at the same time? When you pull Parker in from his blowhard manic attacks and make him discuss detail he quickly falls apart. The way Parker deals with things like this is to ignore you, turn up the wind, and blow harder.

Finally Parker ignores how his Yates tale has seriously drifted from its original form. The original version had Yates fabricating the entire thing because of mental illness. Like his Oswalt theory that didn't quite work, so he's now altering it to include the mental illness but only in the context of this new homosexual love nest.

Parker's trick is pretending that because he claims he has covered something that therefore it has been disproven and he doesn't have to discuss it. You can see from the above that isn't true and the original story he bastardizes and ignores still holds true and still requires serious answers. Answers he never gives.


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I expect the only point we can agree on is that you do not have the slightest doubt that Ralph Leon Yates accurately described picking up a hitch hiker when
and where he claimed he did, and the details of what that pedestrian looked like, said, carried, and the drop off location. Your certainty in itself, is quite troubling.

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During his final, January 4 trip to the FBI office, Ralph Yates was accompanied by his wife, Dorothy. He had asked her to come with him. In an interview forty-two years later, she told me what happened next to her husband. After he completed his (inconclusive) lie-detector test, she said, the FBI told him he needed to go immediately to Woodlawn Hospital, the Dallas hospital for the mentally ill. He drove there with Dorothy. He was admitted that evening as a psychiatric patient. From that point on, he spent the remaining eleven years of his life as a patient in and out of mental health hospitals.

A crucial transition in the psychic health of Ralph Yates seems to have occurred at the FBI office on January 4, 1964. Something the FBI said after Ralph's polygraph test puzzled and disturbed Dorothy:

"They told me that he was telling the truth [according to the polygraph machine], but that basically he had convinced himself that he was telling the truth. So that's how it came out. He strongly believed it, so it came out that way."

According to what the FBI told Dorothy Yates, the data that registered on the polygraph machine, as then read in the normal way by the polygraph examiner, showed that Ralph Yates was telling the truth. His test was officially recorded as "inconclusive" (meaning the examiner wasn't sure if Yates was telling the truth) only because J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI had decided what the truth had to be for Yates. The FBI-defined truth was that Yates had not picked up the Oswald-like hitchhiker with the "curtain rods" package, because for the FBI there could be no such hitchhiker. Therefore Ralph Leon Yates, by being so definitive (as shown by his polygraph chart) In knowing that he did precisely thatpicked up a nonexistent hitchhikercould only have lost touch with reality. What for any other polygraphed person would serve as proof of truth-telling was, in the case of Yates, proof only of an illusory divorce from reality. The wrenching but undeniable truth for Yates, that he helped a man he thought was the president's assassin deliver what could have been his weapon to the Book Depository, was what compelled him to contact the FBI in the first place. Now he was being told his experience was nothing but an illusion. The FBI said so. Because of Yates's unswerving, polygraphed conviction to the contrary, that he knew what really happened, J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI knew what they had to do. They told him to report at once to a psychiatric hospital.

Exactly what happened to Ralph Yates in the following days as a patient at Woodlawn Hospital, Dorothy Yates did not witness and does not know.

She does know that early one morning about a week later, Ralph broke out of Woodlawn. At 4:00 A.M. she opened the front door of their house to find Ralph standing barefoot on the steps in his white hospital cIothes. Snow was swirling around him. Ralph told Dorothy he had escaped from the mental institution. He said he tied sheets together and climbed down from a window. He had then stolen a car and driven home.

Ralph was tormented by fear in a way Dorothy would see repeated for years. He told his wife someone was trying to kill them and their children because of what he knew about Oswald. She quickly bundled up their five sleepy children, the oldest of whom was six. Ralph drove his family away from their house in the stolen car. Within a few hours, Dorothy was more alarmed by her husband's frantic efforts to evade their murder at every turn than she was by any unidentified killers. She returned the car and reported his whereabouts to the Woodlawn Hospital authorities.

Ralph was picked up and returned to Woodlawn. He was soon transferred to Terrell State Hospital, a psychiatric facility about thirty miles east of Dallas, where he lived for eight years. He was then transferred to the Veterans Hospital in Waco for a year and a half, and finally to Rusk State Hospital for the final year and a half of his life. While a patient at all three hospitals, he spent intermittent periods of from one to three months at home with his wife and children. He was never able to work again.......

vs.:

http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...0polygraph


http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...9&tab=page


http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...5&tab=page






The record in the images above supports that it is reasonable to be troubled about what possibly could be driving Mr. Doyle's seemingly very intense and certain
opinions. Even taking allowing for distrust of the FBI, what is there in this particular controversy to drive out any and all doubt that Mr. Yate's was mentally disturbed and this disturbance influenced him to attempt to insert himself into the investigation of the Assassination of JFK?

Does each and every disturbed individual who contacted the FBI in response to the Assassination of JFK, regardless of the details that emerged of their backgrounds, and of their claims, and of the support they provided for their claims, get a pass, get accepted as more reliable than the conflicts included in the investigative record? If the answer is yes, why spend any additional time in this research?

What is Doyle's broader record of discernment? Has he developed a reputation here for countering what seems to him not to pass the smell test? Are the examples of broad assumptions his sense of things and his research have influenced to be turned around? I can post some examples of him being emphatic and later developments further weaken his adamance. Aggravating the difficulty of identifying such examples is the infrequency of his admission of any misinterpretation.