Gary Mack Dead

[David Josephs]

From Duncan's forum--it could only be on his site:

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[TD]From the merely sophomoric rubes who called him Dunkel (as if no public figure had ever changed his/her name in the history of mankind), to the more heinous bleating paranoids who claimed he was the all-powerful Wizard of Disinformation, shame on every one of you. I'm specifically calling out the histrionic human melodrama that is David Josephs, the pathetically withering, nonstop Insult Machine that is Jim DiEugenio, the somehow-passed-the-bar ninny Dawn Meredith (correspondence course?), the perpetually drunkish cartoon David Healy, the dreaded, lonely egomaniac Charles Drago, the indecipherable Phil Dragoo, and the posing, holier-than-everyone-else Greg Burnham.

There are many more out there, of course, but these are the standard bearers of endless, disgusting attacks on a guy who became a Hitlerian-type of enemy to them simply because he changed his mind on a few issues. He parted company, first, from some of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories. And as time went by, he (more so than probably 99.999 percent of researchers) was privy to data that convinced him that most of the rest of the theories were hogwash too.

He left the door open and never stopped researching. He believed in conspiracy. That was never good enough for the swill-slingers. He committed heresy, and then topped it off by actually earning a salary for his work at the Museum.

When Bugliosi died, that smug jerk Burnham ran a headline that said something like "Dead Bug" - and then facetiously claimed he meant no insult to the recently departed VB. Just like a kid who throws rocks and then runs behind mama's skirt.

I'm sure he, and his ilk, will outdo each other, rushing to characterize Gary in the darkest way possible, especially now that he's dead and can't respond. Not that responding would have been possible with this crowd - they make damn sure no alternative views are heard.

But reasonable folks - and there are many in the JFK community - know full well what kinds of acidic people you really are. You will continue to move further and further to the fringes, certain of your 'truth' - and you will convince no one.

You're all horrible people. Again, shame on you.

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Wow, can you imagine what this guy will write when McAdams passes?

He will literally be weeping.

I am still a member at that forum - so I was able to reply:
Nice Rant Mark...

Since Gary was pretty insistent that I not post our emails exchanges which could go on for days and pages your understanding of my relationship with him and the discussion we've had is akin to your H&L understanding - you like to dissparage what you never take the time to read or understand...

Fine.

Gary Mack aka Larry Dunkel was politically adept at saying what needed to be said to keep his job and present the case with as little "theorizing" as possible. He felt as curator that the government investigations ARE what history should present until properly challenged - and at one time he was at the front of the line challenging them.

I indeed called Gary a shill for these investigations - for the impression given by the 6th Floor is that they are presenting an unbiased view of history which has been adequately proven. What he and the 6th floor fails to do is tell the back story to the evidence. We cannot expect the 6th Floor to ever offer a fair presentation of Conspiracy Realism other that to make fun of it. Nor can we expect them to present the gapping holes in the official version of history... so Gary did his job and did it well.

I'm sorry you can't understand how people can have differences and be on opposite ends of an issue and still be cordial and considerate of the other person's POV. LNers only have the WCR and subsequent BS to fall back upon when substantiating their position.

Gary did not want to engage in a discussion of the evidence since FAITH in it played such a huge part of his job. If it was not a government agency discrediting the evidence it was not discredited. Period. This stance leaves little room for discussion.

So he would email me about this or that post where I prove WCR evidence to be the junk it was... and simply quote the company line regardless of what common sense or logic dictated. He threw insults at me as well as any of you wanna-be's but like the rest of you had no rebuttal for proofs showing the inauthentic nature of the WCR evidence, the HSCA evidence...

Bottomline is I enjoyed our discussions, felt a kind of bound two guys who first fight each other feel after tending the wounds and realizing we each have a POV to defend... the difference being one felt that Gary was defending the 6th Floor POV and not his own... that the 6th Floor and its expectation pushed Gary to where he was... that in his heart of hearts he knew there was something amiss in the official conclusions - and this was a "better to Join them than fight them" move.

Gary Mack simply was the beard, the messenger to a deception in history that needs clarity, not more cover-up. He was helpful, free with advice as well as info yet you have no idea the kind of emails which would appear in my inbox out of the blue from Mr. Mack and the manner in which he would approach our discussions.

Mr. Valenti, in the time I've been reading your posts I find them incredibly lacking in substance and research, documents and sources and basically ROKC parroting of hateful emotion rather than any presentation of substantiated fact.

I find LNers continue to be mystified by the evidence they themselves are trying to defend... mystified when it repeatedly shows itself not to be corroborated, authentic or in most cases blanantly conflicting with the actual evidence offered. But you defend it anyway as if FAITH will carry the day.

Now do what you all are good at, insult the CT in every way possible except for the most effective - offer real evidence and real proof for the conclusions you defend daily. PROVE we what say about what Gary Mack defended daily is wrong.

Until then, you remain WCR apologists for why this or that doesn;t work due to FBI ineptness as opposed to an orchestrated presentation of evidence which only focuses in the incrimination of Oswald and not an investigation into what happened and why...

It is always a sad day when a friend, collegue or even sparing partner dies and I was saddened to hear of his too early passing. This does not change my feelings that the 6th Floor Museum remains a propaganda vehicle designed to present history's lies as historical truth and should be either expanded to include more complete back stories on the evidence and conflicts therein... or simply be written about for the SHILL it remains regardless of who picks up the reigns...