18-09-2015, 11:57 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:What does Carolyn Arnold have to do with Dunce MacRae's cartoon alterations of the Prayer Man still?
Playing dumb again Bob? You're calling obvious evidence 'alterations' in order to avoid answering what it shows. Not very honest of you Bob. I don't think they are alterations and I think you can trace them back to the original Darnell still.
Carolyn Arnold complained to Golz that FBI altered her statement that she saw Oswald at 12:25 when she left the building. Your cult leader Parker gave a very impressive imitation of one of Judyth Baker's long drawn out excuses in order to account for it. Typical of Parker he patronized a real time witness, Mrs Arnold, and told her why her memory was wrong. He honored FBI's 12:15 time, that Mrs Arnold protested was wrong, and claimed she confused her second statement where she told FBI she left the Depository for good at 12:25 with her original statement where she told FBI she left the 2nd floor at 12:15. Greg then says this proves Mrs Arnold saw Oswald in the lunch-room at 12:15.
It's obvious what you are doing here Bob is answering a question with a question in order to avoid answering. Why don't you have your cult leader answer my original post and the specific points it made? It pointed out that by Greg's theory Carolyn Arnold would had to have taken 10 minutes to leave the 2nd floor and finally exit the Depository at 12:25, as Greg is claiming. That was a 1 minute walk, so Greg has some explaining to do. Also, Greg is proposing that Carolyn Arnold left the Depository for good at 12:25. But why would she leave the Depository for good if Kennedy wasn't shot until 5 minutes later? Could it be Bob, that the timing of the 1 minute walk from the 2nd floor lunch-room to a 12:25 final exit marks Mrs Arnold's lunch-room witnessing as occurring at 12:24-25? Could it be that instead of Greg's correction of live witness, Mrs Arnold, that her protest that she saw Oswald at 12:25 and FBI altered it to 12:15 is correct? Could it be that what I wrote confirms it by logic crosseye'd Greg missed and both of you haven't been able to answer?
Do I need to explain that if Oswald was in the lunch-room at 12:25 then he wasn't out on the front steps as Prayer Man?
Cut the crap Albert - didn't you just write: "That was a 1 minute walk" so even if Ozzie leaves at 12:27, he gets to the PM position well before the morotcade arrives.
Whenever Parker finds an FBI report that doesn't support his theories, he tries to refute them without an ounce of corroboration... never has there been a researcher more full of it.
You do understand these are approximate times... right?
In an interview with the journalist Earl Golz in 1978, Carolyn Arnold claimed that "she saw Oswald in the 2ndfloor lunchroom as she was on her way out of the depository to watch the presidential motorcade …. She left the building at 12:25pm." (Earl Golz, Was Oswald in Window?,' Dallas Morning News, 26 November 1978, p.13A; available as PDF). Golz quotes her as saying that Oswald "was sitting there … in one of the booth seats on the righthand side of the room as you go in. He was alone as usual and appeared to be having lunch. I did not speak to him but I recognized him clearly." She explicitly denied that her sighting of Oswald took place near the front doors: "Why would I be looking back inside the building? That doesn't make any sense to me."
The 12:15pm time is BOGUS... the FBI created this time for their report and has nothing to do with reality. There is no 10 minute walk to worry about..
The "inside the front doors" is denied.
When Mrs. Reid is asked if there were any men when she left the 2nd floor lunchroom: There either was or wasn't Albert... nothing difficult about the question after sitting there and eating
Mr. BELIN. Were you the last person in the lunchroom?
Mrs. REID. No; I could not say that because I don't remember that part of it because I was going out of the building by myself, I wasn't even, you know, connected with anyone at all.
Mr. BELIN. Were there any men in the lunchroom when you left there?
Mrs. REID. I can't, I don't, remember that.
That sure sounds scared to me... and does not say there were no men left when she leaves
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mrs. REID. I can't remember the time they left.
So basically thie following report is pure junk. How long any walk may or may not have taken is unknowable - regardless of how one Mr. Parker thinks it SHOULD go.
We do not see the PM figure in images until 12:30... as you say it's a 1 minute walk so no real problem there. The man REID sees after the assassination with a coke does not have a shirt or jacket over his T-Shirt
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether he had any shirt or jacket on over his T-shirt?
Mrs. REID. He did not. He did not have any jacket on.
This argument at least is not a credible argument against PM being Harvey Oswald.
As for Duncan's ability to see things in that highly pixelated junk... that's up to each of you to decide. In my view, there is not enough info in those images to make that detailed a conclusion.
With enough manipulation anyone can make little off color spots, shadow and light look like anything they might want it to be... claiming those arrows point to buttons given the clarity and size is wishful thinking at best.
There is yet to be a significant rebuttal to PM being Oswald which EXCLUDES the possibility.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter

