23-09-2015, 06:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 23-09-2015, 06:44 PM by Tom Scully.)
Magda Hassan Wrote:Peter was treated appallingly by Simkin, Walker and others there. The original accusation by Miss Turkey was just complete BS. I have entrusted female friends to Peter's compay in his country and he has behaved impeccably. I had other men contacting me saying that she had contacted them in a very, ahem, apparently enticing way. Contact was not initiated by Peter nor reciprocated in the way she seemed to intend it. When asked for his photo Peter sent her one of him and his dog. Dog being center stage of course as any one who knows Peter will attest. Not what she was expecting I would say. Peter only has one love in his life and that has always been his beloved dogs. Everything spiralled from this original suspect accusation with many men leaping to defend the honour of some one who had none or using the opportunity to undermine Peter because of their personal animosity against him. It was a disgusting public attack on his reputation and Peter was entitled to defend himself.
Magda,
Am I to assume that these Simkin statements are deeply flawed, riddled with inaccuracies? I am sure you are more familiar with Peter's description of his last days and expulsion from the EF
than I am. I've read your description, above. I have to hold my nose when I quote Simkin, but please consider what Jim Di and I were subjected to, compared to Peter. I came upon
this claim (in quote box below) posted by Simkin in the course of compiling my last post. Simkin posted that the "original accusation" you referenced was discussed during the deliberation of whether to appoint Peter as a moderator, but was given little weight because of the lack of suppporting evidence. Simkin infers this matter did not preclude Peter becoming a moderator and it is claimed, did not drive the votes to keep or remove him as a moderator. I cannot emphasize enough that Simkin made himself my enemy, unlike I have experienced at the hands of anyone else I can reccall, but I am cursed with being a stickler for
accuracy. If we cannot accurately understand and describe what has happened to us, how accurate of a job will we perform in deciphering what strangers have been up to, especially those dead for decades
or much longer?
Quote:http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....1&p=187035On June 8, 2013, I had been a member and a moderator in good standing on the EF. I had no disciplinary record and I had recieved not so much as a warning.:
John Simkin Posted 16 March 2010
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I find these comments extremely offensive. Andy and myself did discuss this complaint when it was originally made. The problem was the complaint was made at a time when we were discussing whether Peter Lemkin should be made a moderator. I was concerned that Peter was a target of a smear campaign. Without being sent copies of the offensive emails it was impossible to ban him from the forum for a crime that we did not have enough evidence to convict him of.
On June 9, I woke and soon read this.:
Quote:http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....opic=20259
John Simkin Posted 09 June 2013
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I find I am in complete agreement with Hank's comments and have decided to delete Jim DiEugenio and Tom Scully membership. This is a start of a new regime at the Forum.....
Contrast the message above and the circumstances I described the day before, on June 8, with this. ( is the following inaccurate? ) How many "votes" were extended to Jim Di, or I ? Consider also
that this voting process only had to do with the question of Peter's continued status as a moderator, and his EF membership was not yet in jeopardy. Magda, if you feel so strongly about the treatment of
Peter, how much more intense is your reaction to the treatment of Jim Di ..... no process, no warning...... membership and all posts suddenly deleted?
Quote:http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....3&p=186629
John Simkin Posted 12 March 2010 -
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It appeared to work at first but after a few weeks we began to get complaints about what Peter was saying to other members by PM. Peter was also breaking forum rules by questioning the motives of individual posters. This was usually targeted against new members who told me that they were now reluctant to post. Battle hardened members such as Len Colby can take the flack but new members cannot. They were also confused by the fact that it was a "moderator" who was behaving that way.
Andy took the view that Peter should be removed as a moderator. However, I argued that he should be given another chance. I informed Peter that we were going to take a vote on removing him as a moderator. I and I expect other moderators, now received a succession of abusive emails from Peter. This included threats of legal action against us for spreading rumours about him being guilty of sexually harassing a female member of the forum. In fact, it was Jack White, one of Peter's supporters, who first mentioned this on the forum. Peter also threatened to remove all the posts he had posted on the forum. Peter also threatened to persuade members to leave the Education Forum and join the Deep Politics Forum. At this point I began to wonder if this is what this has been about all along. Andy also drew our attention to what Peter was saying about individual moderators on the Deep Politics Forum.
Despite these emails I did not change my views on whether Peter should remain as moderator. The majority agreed with me. However, these abusive emails continued. So did the attacks on the Deep Politics Forum including the description of us being a "slime-pit". I therefore decided to call for another vote on Peter as a moderator. This time, only Evan, Don and myself voted for him to stay.
This triggered off more abusive emails from Peter. Even though I voted for him to stay as a moderator, I was also on the receiving end of numerous threats. You can imagine what the moderators who voted on his removal received. Peter is also threatening the Forum administrators with legal action. This appears to cover several issues but it did include postings about the claims of sexual harassment.
Tim Gratz threatened legal action against the Forum a few years ago. As a result he was also denied posting rights. The same thing will happen to anyone else who threatens me with legal action........
I never expected to be posting similar to this, but if we do not maintain a high standard of accuracy, what is our higher purpose, considering we seem to be on a quest for the truth?
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.