29-09-2015, 02:32 AM
This is interesting. Greg Parker will not post here, but responds to our posts on this thread on his own forum on his "Carolyn Arnold" thread. Oh well. however you want to do things, Greg.
I will be quoting several passages from Greg's latest post.
"No, Bob, This isn't a contradiction - no matter how much you all want it to be. Her answer in that second interview was to the question "what time did you leave work for the day?" Not "what time did you break for lunch?"
"I beg to differ, Bob. That is not an assumption in regard to the second FBI report. Her "12:25" was in response to the very specific question: What time did you leave to go home?" The "12:25" given was because of her belief that the assassination happened at that time. How can she be answering "I went home at 12:25" if she knew the assassination happened at 12:30?"
You'll have to decide here, Greg, if the "very specific question" asked by the FBI was "what time did you leave work for the day?" or "what time did you leave to go home?". There is a world of difference between the two questions. If she "left work" at 12:25 to go watch the parade, she could be in the vicinity of the TSBD for the rest of the day, and not be considered at work. I know you don't want to see it this way but, leaving work and leaving the building could very well equate to the same thing in her mind.
"She has not been POSITIVELY identified at all in several photos. There is an ASSUMPTION she has been identied in several photos. There is as ASSUMPTION as to when those photos where taken. There is as an ASSUMPTION it matters. It doesn't. She "finished" work for the day as soon as she realized she could not get back inside. That happened very shortly after the assassination - which she remembered as being 12:25 for her 2nd FBI interview. "
Sorry, Greg but would you mind providing the name of another TSBD employee who was quite far along in her pregnancy, as Carolyn Arnold was? Not only that, the pregnant woman ID'ed as Carolyn Arnold in photos taken well after the assassination is clearly the same Carolyn Arnold ID'ed by ED Forum members in photos taken several years after the assassination. Any fool can see that.
"Virginia Rackley said she went down at 12:15. Did the FBI fudge her report too, or did they all go down at that time because ( a ) they could see the crowd was building and wanted to get a good spot and ( b ) because Geneva Hine had volunteered to stay and answer the phone?"
Did Carolyn Arnold leave with the other women at 12:15, or did she tarry because her pregnancy made her thirsty? From what I recall of my wife's pregnancies, she likely stopped to relieve her bladder as well. I recall reading that she was afraid this delay was going to cause her to be late for the arrival of the motorcade, and may very well have caused her to leave the building at 12:25.
"Firstly, at least one person testified that she knew it was running late: Mrs Reid. But she only knew because her husband phoned and told her. Mrs Reid is also under a cloud of suspicion that needs a separate thread. Secondly, the mororcade was not - repeat - not running a half hour late. You may have fallen victim, as I originally did, to Joseph's erroneous time-line. It was due at the Trade Mart at 12:30 pm. It was therefore due past the TSBD at 12:25."
Despite what was written in the DMN, the motorcade would have arrived at the Trade Mart shortly after 12:00, if JFK had not strayed from the schedule and gone out to meet the crowd at Love Field, completely throwing out your "five minutes late" theory.
I will be quoting several passages from Greg's latest post.
"No, Bob, This isn't a contradiction - no matter how much you all want it to be. Her answer in that second interview was to the question "what time did you leave work for the day?" Not "what time did you break for lunch?"
"I beg to differ, Bob. That is not an assumption in regard to the second FBI report. Her "12:25" was in response to the very specific question: What time did you leave to go home?" The "12:25" given was because of her belief that the assassination happened at that time. How can she be answering "I went home at 12:25" if she knew the assassination happened at 12:30?"
You'll have to decide here, Greg, if the "very specific question" asked by the FBI was "what time did you leave work for the day?" or "what time did you leave to go home?". There is a world of difference between the two questions. If she "left work" at 12:25 to go watch the parade, she could be in the vicinity of the TSBD for the rest of the day, and not be considered at work. I know you don't want to see it this way but, leaving work and leaving the building could very well equate to the same thing in her mind.
"She has not been POSITIVELY identified at all in several photos. There is an ASSUMPTION she has been identied in several photos. There is as ASSUMPTION as to when those photos where taken. There is as an ASSUMPTION it matters. It doesn't. She "finished" work for the day as soon as she realized she could not get back inside. That happened very shortly after the assassination - which she remembered as being 12:25 for her 2nd FBI interview. "
Sorry, Greg but would you mind providing the name of another TSBD employee who was quite far along in her pregnancy, as Carolyn Arnold was? Not only that, the pregnant woman ID'ed as Carolyn Arnold in photos taken well after the assassination is clearly the same Carolyn Arnold ID'ed by ED Forum members in photos taken several years after the assassination. Any fool can see that.
"Virginia Rackley said she went down at 12:15. Did the FBI fudge her report too, or did they all go down at that time because ( a ) they could see the crowd was building and wanted to get a good spot and ( b ) because Geneva Hine had volunteered to stay and answer the phone?"
Did Carolyn Arnold leave with the other women at 12:15, or did she tarry because her pregnancy made her thirsty? From what I recall of my wife's pregnancies, she likely stopped to relieve her bladder as well. I recall reading that she was afraid this delay was going to cause her to be late for the arrival of the motorcade, and may very well have caused her to leave the building at 12:25.
"Firstly, at least one person testified that she knew it was running late: Mrs Reid. But she only knew because her husband phoned and told her. Mrs Reid is also under a cloud of suspicion that needs a separate thread. Secondly, the mororcade was not - repeat - not running a half hour late. You may have fallen victim, as I originally did, to Joseph's erroneous time-line. It was due at the Trade Mart at 12:30 pm. It was therefore due past the TSBD at 12:25."
Despite what was written in the DMN, the motorcade would have arrived at the Trade Mart shortly after 12:00, if JFK had not strayed from the schedule and gone out to meet the crowd at Love Field, completely throwing out your "five minutes late" theory.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964