Colonia Dignidad: Chile's Nazi colony

[Peter Lemkin]

[quote=David Guyatt]No wish to deflect the thread, which is very interesting, but we might also bear in mind the use of neo-nazis by the US in Ukraine. In other words this is not just history.

No, it is definitely not. With Ukraine, again, the German connection is an interesting one. Frederic Laurent in "L'Orchestre Noir" recounts a international neo-Nazi meeting in Munich in which Yaroslav Stetsko participated. As later with many members of the OAS, many Banderites including Bandera himself found refuge and protection in Munich. It was the "Fascist International", linked to the WACL, of course. I suspect that in Ukraine we are now witnessing the emergence of a comparable network, this time against Russia.

What makes you believe that Martin Bormann survived the war? A DNA analysis in 1999 seems to have confirmed that he died in 1945. Is there anything suspicious about the DNA analysis?

I have read all the Bormann books and the evidence is now overwhelming that he did survive. Paul Manning's Bormann, Nazi in Exile that linked (free download) by R K Locke above is excellent. So too are William Stevenson's The Bormann Brotherhood (which probably is also free available to download), and Ladislas Farago's Aftermath - although Farago was silly to trust Allen Dulles as a source, since Dulles screwed him by providing a picture of Bormann in Argentina in the post war years for publication in his book that was later proved to be false. Also, one of Hugh Thomas's (the former surgeon and forensic expert - not the historian) books, and I now forget which one (but not the Himmler or Rudolf Hess - so must be the Hitler & Eva Braun one I guess) publishes Paraguayan intelligence or police files that reveal Bormann died in Paraguay (but I can't now remember the date, but believe it was late 1970's??).

So much propaganda and lies have been written about Bormann's supposed death in Berlin in 1945, and any stories attacking this authorized version of history have been so ruthlessly attacked (where possible) that one has to conclude that Bormann's survival is not just something that Germany had to keep secret but the US too. If this is the case, and I believe it to be, then it is hard not to conclude that Bormann either had information that would badly embarrass both nations, or he and his Brotherhood had worked with both nations in the final days of the war and/or post war.

Crazy fool that I am, I also now consider the evidence that Hitler & Braun survived the war and escaped to Argentina to be established.

I agree with Dave that Bormann most likely went to Paraguay and died there, probably briefly through Argentina. The explanation of the apparently positive DNA test is the body tested was a deceased relative of Bormann's. As to Hitler, I'm not absolutely positive, but there is some evidence that he too faked his death and 'body' near the Bunker, fled to Argentina - and when things got hot for him there, moved on to Indonesia, where he died. I know for a fact that Mengele did not die when we are told he did, nor in the country we are told he did...so stranger things have happened. I wrote at length about Mengele on the EF long ago, but that all got 'disappeared' with all of my posts. A friend of mine who was a Nazi-hunter was looking at Mengele through a telescope at the very time the press worldwide was touting the exhumation of Mengele's bones. Tony [my friend] got fingerprints and other proofs it was Mengele. Two countries intelligence agencies quashed his story. That is the short version of a very complex tale.