Colonia Dignidad: Chile's Nazi colony

[R.K. Locke]

[quote=David Guyatt]No wish to deflect the thread, which is very interesting, but we might also bear in mind the use of neo-nazis by the US in Ukraine. In other words this is not just history.

No, it is definitely not. With Ukraine, again, the German connection is an interesting one. Frederic Laurent in "L'Orchestre Noir" recounts a international neo-Nazi meeting in Munich in which Yaroslav Stetsko participated. As later with many members of the OAS, many Banderites including Bandera himself found refuge and protection in Munich. It was the "Fascist International", linked to the WACL, of course. I suspect that in Ukraine we are now witnessing the emergence of a comparable network, this time against Russia.

What makes you believe that Martin Bormann survived the war? A DNA analysis in 1999 seems to have confirmed that he died in 1945. Is there anything suspicious about the DNA analysis?

I have read all the Bormann books and the evidence is now overwhelming that he did survive. Paul Manning's Bormann, Nazi in Exile that linked (free download) by R K Locke above is excellent. So too are William Stevenson's The Bormann Brotherhood (which probably is also free available to download), and Ladislas Farago's Aftermath - although Farago was silly to trust Allen Dulles as a source, since Dulles screwed him by providing a picture of Bormann in Argentina in the post war years for publication in his book that was later proved to be false. Also, one of Hugh Thomas's (the former surgeon and forensic expert - not the historian) books, and I now forget which one (but not the Himmler or Rudolf Hess - so must be the Hitler & Eva Braun one I guess) publishes Paraguayan intelligence or police files that reveal Bormann died in Paraguay (but I can't now remember the date, but believe it was late 1970's??).

So much propaganda and lies have been written about Bormann's supposed death in Berlin in 1945, and any stories attacking this authorized version of history have been so ruthlessly attacked (where possible) that one has to conclude that Bormann's survival is not just something that Germany had to keep secret but the US too. If this is the case, and I believe it to be, then it is hard not to conclude that Bormann either had information that would badly embarrass both nations, or he and his Brotherhood had worked with both nations in the final days of the war and/or post war.

Crazy fool that I am, I also now consider the evidence that Hitler & Braun survived the war and escaped to Argentina to be established.

The Stevenson book is on Scribd:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/36304215/Steve...973#scribd

Can't find the Farago book in PDF form but there is an extensive cache of Paperclip books and documents available here:

https://archive.org/details/jonesreport....pdocuments

(The usual caveats apply.)

There are also lots of Dave Emory shows which deal with this subject. The good thing about Emory is that he quotes extensively from books, so even if you don't agree with his POV you can still get plenty of raw info. Here is an interview with the son of Paul Manning:

https://archive.org/details/For_The_Reco...er_Manning

Some other shows on this subject:
https://archive.org/details/For_The_Reco...ganization
https://archive.org/details/For_The_Reco...eller_File
https://archive.org/details/For_The_Reco...ournalists
https://archive.org/details/For_The_Reco...in_Bormann
https://archive.org/details/For_The_Reco..._World_War

Plenty more here: https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22...bormann%22