07-10-2015, 03:31 AM
Jim, if Leary didn't write about Mary Meyer for 20 years that isn't conclusive evidence. I consider it weak frankly. I have argued that the You Tube video for Mary's Mosaic and Tim Leary shows that witnesses at the time saw Leary crawl out on the Mellon House roof in contemplation upon hearing of Mary's death. He didn't do that for a person he hardly knew. There were also witnesses to Leary then engaging an investigation in New York City when it happened. Again, this is not the action of somebody with a vague relationship. It is very much the reaction of somebody similar to Janney's description. You guys ignore this each time I mention it.
Because Janney used a literary device to exaggerate JFK's "turning" does not mean that JFK and Mary Meyer did not share opinions on world peace. Jim, it's pretty much a done deal that Mary was dabbling in an LSD group in Washington including Ann Chamberlain. If you are doing original Sandoz pure LSD you were probably automatically on cruise control as far as peace pursuits. You are ignoring that Mary also had a World Federalist background. Therefore I find your depiction of Mary as being into art and not any World Federalist peace politics about as accurate as JFK being a Cold Warrior.
I don't know the timing of Mary's break from Cord. Janney says it was when a rift happened because the inner beltway CIA guys Cord was a peer of pulled him towards Dulles' politics. Jim, the art world is not known to be John Birchers. Again, this is weak in my opinion. Jim, you're not seriously quoting Cord Meyer on the reason for his separation from Mary? This is a man whom Janney shows was knowledgeable at minimum of his wife's assassination. He was CIA for god's sake. Do you think he would admit Mary left him because he went to the dark side?
You're sort of creating strawmen because whether or not Kennedy had early predilections towards his progressive peace/nationalist politics in the 50's doesn't mean that Mary's possible influence during the crucible of his administration and its high pressure crises wasn't a serious issue to CIA. Really all that counts here is whether CIA thought Mary presented enough of a threat to warrant liquidation. We are seeing all the signs of that in the manner of her death and Angleton's intense interest in her diary. Or do you believe Angleton was doing a Ruby-like noble gesture to preserve the honor of a fallen president? Mary didn't need to be a female Rasputin to get herself on the Hit List. Many people were killed for being less of a threat than she. But then again, Mary had serious beltway knowledge and clout. She couldn't be dismissed so easily.
Jim, if Crump was a patsy in a serious CIA operation to kill Mary Meyer any stories he tells afterwards would automatically be questionable. Jim, have you ever studied up on CIA tactics and the freakish mind control techniques they used? I'm sorry but for you to ignore this and how it would reflect on Crump and his stories is not adequate to the full potential of Deep Political analysis and CIA's full capabilities. Sirhan is a good example of how they kill. They did some bizarre things to his mind. I can't see your approach as anything other than taking advantage of the victim in order to prove your point. This is exactly what Intel wants people to do.
If you look at the things I mentioned in my unanswered post to Tom you'll see a clear evidentiary path to good evidence Mary Meyer was assassinated by CIA in a black op. There's no way with the shooting and dragging confirmed by the cops that Mary's body would have zero trace of Crump, or fibers from his clothes. Joe Shimon made it pretty clear to Toni that sometimes people had to be killed when referring to Mary Meyer.
Because Janney used a literary device to exaggerate JFK's "turning" does not mean that JFK and Mary Meyer did not share opinions on world peace. Jim, it's pretty much a done deal that Mary was dabbling in an LSD group in Washington including Ann Chamberlain. If you are doing original Sandoz pure LSD you were probably automatically on cruise control as far as peace pursuits. You are ignoring that Mary also had a World Federalist background. Therefore I find your depiction of Mary as being into art and not any World Federalist peace politics about as accurate as JFK being a Cold Warrior.
I don't know the timing of Mary's break from Cord. Janney says it was when a rift happened because the inner beltway CIA guys Cord was a peer of pulled him towards Dulles' politics. Jim, the art world is not known to be John Birchers. Again, this is weak in my opinion. Jim, you're not seriously quoting Cord Meyer on the reason for his separation from Mary? This is a man whom Janney shows was knowledgeable at minimum of his wife's assassination. He was CIA for god's sake. Do you think he would admit Mary left him because he went to the dark side?
You're sort of creating strawmen because whether or not Kennedy had early predilections towards his progressive peace/nationalist politics in the 50's doesn't mean that Mary's possible influence during the crucible of his administration and its high pressure crises wasn't a serious issue to CIA. Really all that counts here is whether CIA thought Mary presented enough of a threat to warrant liquidation. We are seeing all the signs of that in the manner of her death and Angleton's intense interest in her diary. Or do you believe Angleton was doing a Ruby-like noble gesture to preserve the honor of a fallen president? Mary didn't need to be a female Rasputin to get herself on the Hit List. Many people were killed for being less of a threat than she. But then again, Mary had serious beltway knowledge and clout. She couldn't be dismissed so easily.
Jim, if Crump was a patsy in a serious CIA operation to kill Mary Meyer any stories he tells afterwards would automatically be questionable. Jim, have you ever studied up on CIA tactics and the freakish mind control techniques they used? I'm sorry but for you to ignore this and how it would reflect on Crump and his stories is not adequate to the full potential of Deep Political analysis and CIA's full capabilities. Sirhan is a good example of how they kill. They did some bizarre things to his mind. I can't see your approach as anything other than taking advantage of the victim in order to prove your point. This is exactly what Intel wants people to do.
If you look at the things I mentioned in my unanswered post to Tom you'll see a clear evidentiary path to good evidence Mary Meyer was assassinated by CIA in a black op. There's no way with the shooting and dragging confirmed by the cops that Mary's body would have zero trace of Crump, or fibers from his clothes. Joe Shimon made it pretty clear to Toni that sometimes people had to be killed when referring to Mary Meyer.