26-10-2015, 08:10 AM
Well, I watched the whole video, "Rich Man's Trick"... it kinda has me thinking till the part about the JFK assassination, then I couldn't help busting out in laughter. It was like that Onion thing, a combination of every conspiracy theory ever invented. "They're all true[/u]" (except for the part about the space aliens, it didn't mention that one.... lol).
Once again, I'm running into the same pattern I've found with a lot of this internet-driven information, it's like people repeating and transmitting the same old conjectures over and over again but no source evidence. The video has one of the most astounding portrayals of the 488th reserve MIG I've ever heard, there's a specific claim it was privately funded, which I've never heard and I have no idea how anyone would get that information in the first place, and secondly they make claims about the membership that go well beyond anything in PDS or Baker's books....
So this, to me, is disinformation. This is an embellishment of what may have a kernel of truth in it. My purpose is to get to the kernel of truth, I care not for Military Industrial Complex fairy tales, any more than I'd care for Warren Commission fairy tales.
I have yet to see a list of the membership of the 488th. Can anyone point me to one?
I have yet to see any confirmation of Fabian Escalante's claim that Bush and Crichton were working together on the private funding of Operation 40. Is anyone aware whether this claim can be independently corroborated?
To the best of my knowledge, in 1960 when Eisenhower (and Nixon) left office the 488th was still called the "Strategic" Intelligence "Detachment", and I'd like to know exactly when and why its name was changed. My reasoning is, this must correspond with the period during which the focus of the 488th shifted from petroleum to subversives. Jack Crichton specifically states in his oral history that "50 to 100" Dallas police officers were involved in the activities of the 488th, including the "entire intelligence division" (I take the word "entire" euphemistically). However we know only a very few specific names: Lumpkin, Westbrook, Gannaway, Revill... and we have to acquire those names on an individual basis by getting lucky, reading society columns or civil defense information or some such thing. There's no list, that I know of.
So like, the video weaves this whole very plausible story in which it mentions the communications facilities of the 488th, and then links that group to right wing extremists like John Birchers - well.... I don't believe the makers of that video had any idea whatsoever about the communications facilities that may or may not have been controlled by the 488th.
And I should also mention, that all the aforementioned members of the 488th were busy that day, attending to little things like the Kennedy assassination and the Tippit shooting.... so.... who was manning the communications facilities?
I'll predict right here and now, that a few months from now you'll start seeing Boise B Smith's name associated with this particular activity, just because someone read his name in print here next to Crichton's. Trust me, it'll happen. The next time they make a movie like this, you'll see the little still of Boise Smith standing there next to the bomb blast doors of the Emergency Operations Center, and there'll be some verbiage about the "communications facilities".
This is the kind of stuff that sends the investigation backwards, in my opinion. This is why I'm so adamant about seeing the source material with my own two eyes.
Since when is a military reserve detachment "privately funded"? Since never. What they could (and did) do was piggyback on ongoing business operations, so if a guy like de Mohrenschildt was going to Haiti anyway, they'd have him do a little business while he was there - but even that would usually be reimbursed in some way, in kind if not in cash. The US government is very generous with our money, there wouldn't have been any need to privately fund an outfit engaged in petroleum research. There's not even anything very "black" about it, nothing secret about monitoring other countries' petroleum purchases.
Once again, I'm running into the same pattern I've found with a lot of this internet-driven information, it's like people repeating and transmitting the same old conjectures over and over again but no source evidence. The video has one of the most astounding portrayals of the 488th reserve MIG I've ever heard, there's a specific claim it was privately funded, which I've never heard and I have no idea how anyone would get that information in the first place, and secondly they make claims about the membership that go well beyond anything in PDS or Baker's books....
So this, to me, is disinformation. This is an embellishment of what may have a kernel of truth in it. My purpose is to get to the kernel of truth, I care not for Military Industrial Complex fairy tales, any more than I'd care for Warren Commission fairy tales.
I have yet to see a list of the membership of the 488th. Can anyone point me to one?
I have yet to see any confirmation of Fabian Escalante's claim that Bush and Crichton were working together on the private funding of Operation 40. Is anyone aware whether this claim can be independently corroborated?
To the best of my knowledge, in 1960 when Eisenhower (and Nixon) left office the 488th was still called the "Strategic" Intelligence "Detachment", and I'd like to know exactly when and why its name was changed. My reasoning is, this must correspond with the period during which the focus of the 488th shifted from petroleum to subversives. Jack Crichton specifically states in his oral history that "50 to 100" Dallas police officers were involved in the activities of the 488th, including the "entire intelligence division" (I take the word "entire" euphemistically). However we know only a very few specific names: Lumpkin, Westbrook, Gannaway, Revill... and we have to acquire those names on an individual basis by getting lucky, reading society columns or civil defense information or some such thing. There's no list, that I know of.
So like, the video weaves this whole very plausible story in which it mentions the communications facilities of the 488th, and then links that group to right wing extremists like John Birchers - well.... I don't believe the makers of that video had any idea whatsoever about the communications facilities that may or may not have been controlled by the 488th.
And I should also mention, that all the aforementioned members of the 488th were busy that day, attending to little things like the Kennedy assassination and the Tippit shooting.... so.... who was manning the communications facilities?
I'll predict right here and now, that a few months from now you'll start seeing Boise B Smith's name associated with this particular activity, just because someone read his name in print here next to Crichton's. Trust me, it'll happen. The next time they make a movie like this, you'll see the little still of Boise Smith standing there next to the bomb blast doors of the Emergency Operations Center, and there'll be some verbiage about the "communications facilities".
This is the kind of stuff that sends the investigation backwards, in my opinion. This is why I'm so adamant about seeing the source material with my own two eyes.
Since when is a military reserve detachment "privately funded"? Since never. What they could (and did) do was piggyback on ongoing business operations, so if a guy like de Mohrenschildt was going to Haiti anyway, they'd have him do a little business while he was there - but even that would usually be reimbursed in some way, in kind if not in cash. The US government is very generous with our money, there wouldn't have been any need to privately fund an outfit engaged in petroleum research. There's not even anything very "black" about it, nothing secret about monitoring other countries' petroleum purchases.