11-11-2015, 04:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2015, 05:25 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
The most surprising thing to me was not that he was found (others knew about him in Washington State before he moved to Idaho not far away) is that the three-letter agency protecting him didn't warn him about his being tracked. One can only speculate that NSA doesn't have 'hand' as a keyword, but certainly Nugan-Hand must be!'. I'm sure that anyone on the trail of Nugan-Hand persons or money or the real story would also be closely watched both in Oz and the USA, which share both intelligence and the exact same Five-Eyes Electronic Intelligence system.
I know of someone who knows a bit about what happened (saw some parts of it with their own eyes), but will NOT be coming forward with that information, as they 1 - were never in a decision-making position regarding this matter and were always low-level; 2- take their secrecy oath seriously, 3 - they like to stay alive and well. 4 - and they were officially tasked to rub elbows with some involved in this matter, and they thus have always been known to those who can see top secret documents. ::drwho::
There is more than enough information out there publicly already to prosecute many - and the Nugan-Hand Bank scandal connects to many other scandals from Whitlam to Murdoch and everything in between. So, I'm quite sure this won't be touched, as it would unwind the polity and official myths [of democracy, independence, sovereignty, rule of law, et al.] of Australia (and a few other countries) - i.e. not in the 'National Security' interest. :
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I know of someone who knows a bit about what happened (saw some parts of it with their own eyes), but will NOT be coming forward with that information, as they 1 - were never in a decision-making position regarding this matter and were always low-level; 2- take their secrecy oath seriously, 3 - they like to stay alive and well. 4 - and they were officially tasked to rub elbows with some involved in this matter, and they thus have always been known to those who can see top secret documents. ::drwho::
There is more than enough information out there publicly already to prosecute many - and the Nugan-Hand Bank scandal connects to many other scandals from Whitlam to Murdoch and everything in between. So, I'm quite sure this won't be touched, as it would unwind the polity and official myths [of democracy, independence, sovereignty, rule of law, et al.] of Australia (and a few other countries) - i.e. not in the 'National Security' interest. :
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass