Thoughts on a bus trip

[David Josephs]

From the evidence offered, Oswald was NOT on that bus.
He never obtained that transfer which he never used.
There is no transfer book in evidence from which that transfer was taken -
There is no record of McWatter's books for that day

The only item of evidence which attempts to authenticate his presence on that bus is a transfer NOT obtained at the time of arrest as all the reports state

That description of the man does not lead to his having been on the bus in the first place though Drew. Like asking about his shooting expertise - since he was NOT at the window, his shooting ability is a moot point.

When I speak of the evidence, I don't mean just some of the evidence. I mean all of it. When you capitalize the letter E at the start of the word, in support of your catchphrase, you are referring to a subset of the evidence, which I take to mean, "evidence fabricated to support the official version of events," because any non-fabricated evidence of Oswald's guilt or involvement by definition couldn't be a byproduct of a conspiracy to frame him, and the evidence that tends to exonerate him wouldn't have any value to such a conspiracy.

The only evidence that Oswald didn't get on the bus is McWatter's recantation (after twice going on the record), and Roger Craig's story of Oswald's escape. An attack on the caliber of the bus evidence, or the credibility of the bus witnesses, is simply an attempt to undermine the official story, not proof of a different story. You may find it convenient to attack such evidence, or necessary, but it doesn't prove a different proposition. See argumentum ad ignorantiam. (Don't take that the wrong way, I'm not attempting to insult. I'm suggesting that this argument tactic is a well-known and time-honored logical fallacy with a Latin name.)

You'll pardon me please if I disagree with this Drew.

Your paraphrase of the evidence I present related to that bus trip and the transfer is woefully inadequate in conveying my point... so maybe you let me make my points and you make yours.
You forget Bledsoe and the coat, Whaley and the coat, Jones and Coat, the changing of clothes, the lack of coroborrating evidence for the transfer, the entire transfer/bullets search process, and the repeated fact that none of the EVIDENCE which you claim puts him on the bus can be authenticated - if you can, please do...

I too am not attempting to insult Drew... J[B]ust offer us some OSWALD WAS GUILTY authenticated evidence.[/B]. putting Ozzie on a bus home, and proving it fraudelent means this accepted trip is covering for some other transportation to his destination... he got to the theater somehow, right? And more than likely with help from the original Phase 1 potters - the Rambler was driven by Cuban looking men... Oswald was to be connected to Cubans and in turn to Castro...
When Castro Conspiracy becomes LONE NUT... the evidence which was placed to show conspiracy is now made to look like Lone Nut...

I have asked a number of forums and their members to offer up ANY evidence which can be authenticated for what it really is. If it implicates Oswald you can be dam sure it cannot be authenticated and you will find corroboration for the item to be a closed-loop of a very small handful of impoosible to authenticate documents... Maybe read some of my work at CTKA to get a flavor for the Evidence I unearth.


McWatters did not go on the record twice identifying Oswald. He explained quite clearly that he was talking about Jones the entire time.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...4&tab=page is the FBI page on which Det CHARLIE BROWN provides SA's LOGAN & BRAMBLETT his account of McWatter's identification. This is on Dec 3rd, 2 weeks later and AFTER the following Affidavit had been offered.

Here then is McWatter's affidavit... Please notice WHERE he says this occurs Drew and who he identifies as the #2 man - NOT the man given a transfer and quickly on and off the bus but JONES who looks like Oswald from a physical size standpoint.

If Oswald gets off the bus before it gets to Elm & Houston, and McWatters says this occurs on Marsalis which is at the opposite end of this bus's run... how can the "smiling man" be Ozzie?

The only evidence that Oswald didn't get on the bus is McWatter's recantation (after twice going on the record), and Roger Craig's story of Oswald's escape

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You may find it convenient to attack such evidence, or necessary, but it doesn't prove a different proposition.

First part, there is much more evidence than that and it's presented here in this thread....

as for part 2, that's an old LNer trick Drew. I don't have to prove what he DID to prove the evidence for what he supposedly did provided by the DPD/FBI/SS/CIA/etc... is inauthentic.

If you would kindly post EVIDENCE which places him on that bus and impeaches McWatters, and Jones as well as overcomes Bledsoe's xray vision - let's see it.
From my POV, the DPD railroaded McWatters into an ID of the shortest, most dishevoled man in the line up as the man who got the transfer on the bus... as you can see, he obviously did not make that ID.
The FBI then writes up a report without McWatters based soley on what the DPD claims and not the affidavit.

Kindly refrain from paraphrasing my work Drew... copy/paste the text you want to discuss so we are not dealing with your impression of what I post, but with what I actually post...

Thanks
DJ