09-02-2016, 12:40 AM
David Josephs Wrote:So this clandiestine pair meets virtually daily on the same bus going to the same place...
Ok.. the same busdriver would most definitely remember these same two people, maybe?
An awful lot of stops along St. Charles, right? People on and off and on and off would not notice two lovebirds stealing away their morning commute?
And finally Jon - what remains the most difficult to swallow and even more difficult for her or her followers to address is the W-2 offered up as definitive proof of her working at Reilly.
http://www.ctka.net/2015/JudythBaker-DJ.pdf
"in her own words" this is the proof. The first and most obviopus question is Why Copy "B", the one that is sent with the tax return and not Copy "C" which is the taxpayer's copy?
Which in turn asks - How did she get the IRS's copy of her W-2 for that return?
I agree. I am adding fuel to the fire by relating it back to her own testimony though, rather than let it drift through hearsay and anecdotes from "what she said to X" type reports.
She herself, freely and voluntarily, has supplied payslips (flashed up on screen briefly in Men Who Killed Kennedy), the tax form - the employer copy; she has also supplied an address - 1032 Merango.
These are the sort of details that must either authenticate or disprove testimony. They mustn't be explained away.
And I think they prove that the older woman who has appeared as JVB is a fake, in the sense that what she has described happening did not happen.
In listening to her earliest testimony - and it is testimony because she is inviting belief in her own story and wants us to rely on trust and so forth - there seems to be a few different segments, stitched together.
A. she was a child prodigy.
B. she worked in cancer experiments in a "home lab" kind of way.
C. this came to the attention of some sort of "secret school" type operation, which recruited her.
D. they took her away to work and undergo an accelerated learning project.
E. this accelerated learning project did not begin immediately when she arrived in the target city and she was left very close to destitute and homeless.
F. at the same time her father threatened to -or actually did- report her as a runaway.
G. she was planning to elope.
1. she dropped stuff in a post office, LHO picked it up, and they briefly spoke.
2. LHO walked her home.
3. LHO effectively chatted her up, LHO's wedding ring notwithstanding.
A case can be made that the beginning of each of her story segments closely conforms with reality - child prodigy, went to another city, bumped into someone who looked like LHO in a post office; but subsequently each "stub" spirals off into a fantasy. This would be what a fantasy prone individual would do- fantasize and create a mythology or a narrative based on some real but rather insignificant basis.
So that's a fairly light shade of gray between the black and white of "JVB is a deliberate liar" and "JVB is the center of a wide ranging government conspiracy to conceal the real nature of LHO's work and a secret progam to develop transmittable cancer as a bioweapon".
In terms of the intriguing elements in the older JVB's stories, there is no element of these stories, even the appareny corroborative details, that was not public information available in open source documents by the time she came forward.
For example:
* the secret school / X-Men program had been the subject of an Outer Limits episode, two mentions in John Keel paperbacks, several similar television stories and is also a kind of modern myth - right down to the expression of the same trope in the "Harry Potter" books.
* transmittable cancer was the allegation made by Roger Craig and Jack Ruby.