23-02-2016, 09:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 23-02-2016, 10:02 PM by Tom Scully.)
Michael Cross Wrote:.................
Wait a minute. You were asked, here publicly, over and over and over to supply, publicly, what you asserted to be your stolen research. And you think IGNORING someone you've accused of plagiarism to be the appropriate response? SERIOUSLY? If you're PUBLICLY accusing someone of plagiarism then IMO you should PUBLICLY respond when asked to explain your accusation. Wow.
Wow?
Mr. Cross, not only did I point out to Mr. Hargrove, when he first presented my original research under John Armstrong's name, that he was copying my research,
Tom Scully Wrote:Mr. Hargrove,
You have taken my unique research specifics, in some excerpts
almost word for word, not only without attribution, but deliberately
associated it with John Armstrong.
Please take down your link to your web page displaying my unattributed original research details here and on the Education Forum, and remove every detail of my original research, and images I am the original presenter of, from your web pages.
For comparison:
http://jfk.education/node/11 and http://jfk.education/node/13
Late 1950's - early 1960's automated check processing innovation.:
http://jfk.education/node/12
Throughout this process, from about November 1, 2015, this research has been collaborative, co-operative, and presented in a team like spirit, your new presentation being a disturbing exception.....
Quote:http://jfk.education/node/11Sorry Brian, Jean, and DVP, Banks Did Not Key-Punch 1963 P.O. Money Orders
Submitted by Admin on Tue, 11/10/2015 - 06:47
Updated November 19, 2015:
https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceeding...680479.pdf
(Lance Payette brought this to my attention, today. "File Locator Numbers - See Explanation, below
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1...4873&hl=en
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Shortly after my November 10, initial presentation of my original research, google.com news archive dropped access to Palm Beach Post articles, of which the one I presented an image of, was one.:
https://sites.google.com/site/palmbeachc...newspapers vs.
https://news.google.com/newspapers#P
It seems this change by google.com left you no alternative than to include the article image file from my presentation (just one small example) , cropped by you, but with my unique red highlighting visible.:
When I originally presented this research on this forum, David Joseph reacted by launching a competing thread, directed at David Von Pein
who merely recounted, with attribution, the original research of Lance
Payette and myself.
presenting obsolete information which you enthusiastically posted in.:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...o3_loShe78
I do not see how your efforts conform to presentation of the most accurate information as soon as possible because I understand no higher priority than promptly attempting to present the most accurate and A.S.A.P. components, and always in good faith, giving credit where credit is due.
......I had made a presentation on this forum last November 15, of the details I had recently discovered that were unique in comparison to John Armstrong's research, and I knew that Jim Hargrove was aware of it, and where my presentation was located on this forum.
A reasonable person fully acquainted with the background, and Mr. Hargrove was well acquainted with it, would
see Mr. Hargrove's later demands of me for what they are. He insisted I restate what is obvious.
On November 15, I posted my new, original research details, including images, and I went on to post further
details and supporting evidence later in the same thread. If you consider the thread, you can acquire an understanding of the differences of the details in earlier presentations of Mr. Armstrong, compared to my newly presented research.:
(On November 15, rather than start a new thread, I posted a quote of Bernice Moore's post quoting John Armstrong's money
order research, and I interspersed my new, original research for sake of comparison. I selected Bernice's quoted text of Armstrong
because the money order research then on Jim Hargrove's page was much briefer. See - https://web.archive.org/web/201509120255...ndlee.net/ - "....Oswald Never Purchased a Mail Order Rifle The Postal Money Order allegedly used to purchase the rifle that supposedly killed JFK is perhaps the most unexplainable document published by the Warren Commission.")
Quote:[URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?6432-Armstrong-Of-Covert-Ops-Fake-Marines-of-Classifieds-of-Cabbages-and-Kings&p=104555#post104555"]https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?6432-Armstrong-Of-Covert-Ops-Fake-Marines-of-Classifieds-of-Cabbages-and-Kings&p=104555#post104555
[/URL] .....I will take questions, but I cannot anticipate what they will be about because a close reading of the document images I have interspersed in the quoted text of the original post and a close comparison of what is described in the original text with the details displayed in the four document images should be an informative exercise, well worth the time...
I've excerpted what is relevant, from Mr. Hargrove's reply, a day later.:
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Tom Scully Wrote:I will take questions,
I have a question....
Since it is clear from the reports you copied here that by March '63 Dallas Postal Money Orders were pre-punched with rectangular holes representing the individual serial number of the money order and punched at the time of issuance with round holes representing the its value, ...........
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Thank you for the additional documents. John A. is going to work at least one of them into an expansion of his writeup on the money order.
Two days later, I commented (in the thread Jim Hargrove made a brief appearance in on November 16 ) in reaction to this development.:[URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?15277-DVP-Take-the-Money-Order-Image-to-your-bank-and-ask-them-if-it-was-processed"]
DVP - Take the Money Order Image to your bank and ask them if it was processed[/URL] Started by David Josephs, 11-18-2015
Tom Scully Wrote:Is the creation of a second thread on this same topic, with a title calling out someone who is not a member here and who has quoted much of the research I came up with and presented in my last post on this thread, really necessary?....
Mr. Cross, I am sorry your "Wow" reaction to my ignoring Mr. Hargrove's demands that I repeatedly take him
through what is sourced from me, vs. what he attributed to John Armstrong, seems to discount the fact I had already done that very thing twice, with Mr. Hargrove.
If you believe that my choosing to ignore Mr. Hargroves' demands that I show him a third time, what should be obvious, somehow erodes my standing or credibility, that certainly seems no more reasonable than what you've already directed at me in your rush to judgment in this thread.
I am not dense.... it is crystal clear to me... do not post new research if it contradicts what is already favorably received, no
matter how well you think you can support newly discovered details.:
Dawn Meredith Wrote:I have come to the conclusion that the sole reason Tom Scully is here with all his data dumps is to attack John Armstrong.
So sick of his endless posts of old news articles that you cannot even read. At least Tommy Graves over at Ef keeps his criticism short and sweet.
Dawn
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