09-03-2016, 04:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-2016, 05:01 AM by Tom Scully.)
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Tom Scully Wrote:I am speechless.We all are Tom. We've all been watching this slow motion car crash. Scott you are all over the place like a dog's breakfast but what exactly are you trying to say? JKG didn't go to Vietnam? Because he was in India? Because you can find no evidence he did? Where are you looking? Why aren't you looking? The historical record is pretty well established that he did. It is up to you to prove he didn't. So while you feel you have a constitutional right to your opinion (in your country) there is no obligation for others to take your opinion seriously. Also you don't have a right to your own facts. You have presented none.
Magda, with all due respect, I do owe you an explanation as to why I say what I say. Although, history tells us this letter exist through text books, the letter in question does not exist at the JFK Library. My source also says this never happened, no such letter was ever written nor did Mr. Kennedy ever send JKG to Saigon, now, it is your choice to believe what you want. You have that God given right to believe the 6-8 books written about JKG visiting Vietnam which some even contradict themselves regarding the trip, and if you want too, you may even believe in this imaginary letter, by all means you have that right. I have now produced my evidence, now, I ask, can anyone please produce the letter? Surely, with so much widespread information regarding this letter it must be somewhere if it's not at the JFK Library. Surely, someone has it. Instead of producing books to back up your claims provide the letter!
Tell me, is it really because no one wants to give Senator Mansfield the credit is that it? Everyone wants to discredit Mansfield?
I'm speechless.
~Scott
Scott, this is overwhelming evidence that your source and your opinions are wrong. Read it all carefully. Contact NARA if you have evidence to present that pages excerpted from the well documented, and linked US Government sources displayed after this sentence are false or misleading. Otherwise, please apologize, because you've made accusations against some of us you have not supported! :
Tom Scully Wrote:Scott Kaiser Wrote:The [reason] you will NOT find any letter to the president regarding Vietnam is because Kennedy sent Galbraith to India as the Ambassador to India in 1961. Now, any decisive measures regarding the events surrounding Vietnam the [president] should make is for the president and only the president to take.
As MY second [cousin] Congressman Donald J. Irwin would say. I hope I'm getting through to you people!
Scully repeatedly and patiently presents from primary sources in two threads over the course of several days.:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...t8ksfihce0
Kaiser's responses are exemplified in this poorly articulated tantrum.:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:I'm sorry that knowledge, understanding and comprehension is not away of life for either of you, carry on! I shall no longer post here until you have inquired these fine attributes, for this has taught me one thing. I am surrounded by bias people, with that said, you surly wouldn't want to know what my father would say in regards of his surroundings. LOL!IOW, slaps his fore....., go big, or go home!
A patriot would notify NARA a.s.a.p. that the following information, classified Top Secret at one time, is false or "forged". NARA, of course, would require substantial evidence because Scott's challenge to authenticity is an extraordinary claim.:
https://www.archives.gov/research/pentagon-papers/
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On the 40th anniversary of the leak to the press, the National Archives, along with the Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon Presidential Libraries, has released the complete report. There are 48 boxes and approximately 7,000 declassified pages. Approximately 34% of the report is available for the first time.....
https://nara-media-001.s3.amazonaws.com/...IV-B-1.pdf
.pdf page 176 of 195 :
....nicely supporting:
Tom Scully Wrote:.....................
Vietnam Voices: Perspectives on the War Years, 1941-1975 - Pa
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0820333697John Clark Pratt - 2008 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Perspectives on the War Years, 1941-1975 John Clark Pratt ... In November President Kennedy receives this hurried message from the ambassador to India, John Kenneth Galbraith, who has ... I HAVE JUST COMPLETED THREE INTENSIVE DAYS IN SAIGON WHICH, WITH CINCPAC [COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, PACIFIC] ...
https://books.google.com/books?id=3V...saigon&f=false
Scott Kaiser Wrote:..................
You have that God given right to believe the 6-8 books written about JKG visiting Vietnam which some even contradict themselves regarding the trip, and if you want too, you may even believe in this imaginary letter, by all means you have that right. I have now produced my evidence, now, I ask, can anyone please produce the letter? Surely, with so much widespread information regarding this letter it must be somewhere if it's not at the JFK Library. Surely, someone has it. Instead of producing books to back up your claims provide the letter!
Tell me, is it really because no one wants to give Senator Mansfield the credit is that it? Everyone wants to discredit Mansfield?
I'm speechless.
~Scott
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentclou...ook-ii.pdf
https://www.fold3.com/image/271155241/
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