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Heads Up!
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Alan Ford Wrote:Morning gentlemen,

A decent idea. Mr. Phipps. I'm all for any fairly rendered application of measurement. This matter shouldn't become mired down into who is right and who is wrong. After all, An innocent, unarmed representative of the People was killed. Exacting a sense of justice for him should be our top priority.

That said, without creating a measurement-commission of sorts, I do think if such measurement confirmation study was actually undertaken that it should be conducted by neutral parties to enhance an unbiased outcome. How we do that poses a real challenge. If I was a casual observer, without any vested interest in an outcome at stake, I would suggest the selection of a seven member panel of non-vested parties, whose compositional make up reflects 3 CT's, 3 LN's and an independent party of impeccable integrity. However, given this very contentious issue, it may be much easier to get the notorious Hell Angels and another biker group together to sing Kumbaya.

Whether that format is possible or even something the research community wishes to pursue is not my call. However, at the very least, a fair minded approach is the best manner to determine measurements (no opinions, just a fair application of all of the available evidence). Set a venue, convene an honest panel, record the proceedings and let the evidence or lack thereof speak for itself (add some women please, we've already smucked up bad enough with all men the last time).

That said, enjoy your day everyone. Cheers!

An objective, evidenced based Q & A relative to Prayer Man ----> http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/prayer-man-faq no distortions, no distractions.

*Still working on a photo image that deserves my full attention before making an accompanying post in the near future. I never noticed that crook in the step before.



This is ridiculous. The geometric triangulation I presented is a neutral party since it is objective science. You ignored it and called it "VooDoo science". You seem to fail to realize that it is valid science that must be answered in the here and now. Like ROKC you call for another analysis in the future under some kind of other terms. You can't do that because the things I wrote require an answer now because of their soundness.

The internal forensic items I posted do credibly locate Prayer Man at the front of the portal. You even admit this. Once you establish Prayer Man is at the front of the portal you must answer to credible science and admit that a direct height comparison can be made. That comparison excludes Oswald as being Prayer Man.

It is ironic that David Josephs claims I am ignorant of photogrammetry when it is obvious I possess the better photogrammetric arguments.

You and neutral, Mr. Doyle--on this particular matter--don't belong in the same sentence, so don't kid yourself (you know who you see standing there, Don't you?) Go ahead, it's okay, say it. Here imagine Vanna White giving you some clues: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Y _ _ _ A _ _

Moving along, Are you afraid to answer Mr. Josephs' more than fair and reasonable questions, especially his valid points about the vanishing act of Mr. Frazier?, now we see him, now we don't. That kind of outright tampering w/evidence should concern a genuine neutral party, operative word on genuine.

Final thought today, Mr. Doyle, but please check in here before noon tomorrow (EST). In the interim, please note the position of KTVT cameraman Don Cook...

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*Credit Mr. Hocking (Richard)

particularly the step the greater portion of his center of gravity/weight rests (what is it about that step and extended elbows?). More about that tomorrow, with an additional image that requires adequate time to address in the manner indicative of what the research community deserves (no self-serving opinions, just a fair presentation of the available evidence to evaluate in a neutral manner).

also, What are the chances that you actually takes the time to respond to Mr. Josephs' fair and reasonable questions before I venture back in? Should I dare hold my breath?

Your silence, avoidance is very telling. Huff and puff on phantom measurements with the best of the distorters and distractors, but duck and cower from specific questions from Mr. Josephs and Mr. Cross. Go figure.

Meanwhile, safe travels folks if anyone has special plans to paint the town later tonight, and remember an objective look at Prayer Man is only a click away ---->

http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/prayer-man-faq no distortions, no distractions, just a fair accounting of who he's not. Not a stranger, nor any of the other TSBD employees--male or female. Therefore...


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Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 20-02-2016, 10:45 PM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 20-02-2016, 11:20 PM
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Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 21-02-2016, 01:38 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 21-02-2016, 04:44 AM
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Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 23-02-2016, 05:17 PM
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Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 23-02-2016, 09:35 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 27-02-2016, 06:55 PM
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Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 04-03-2016, 06:19 PM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 04-03-2016, 08:31 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 04-03-2016, 10:12 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 05-03-2016, 12:08 AM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 05-03-2016, 12:24 AM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 05-03-2016, 12:35 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 05-03-2016, 01:02 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 05-03-2016, 01:19 AM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 05-03-2016, 01:49 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 05-03-2016, 05:12 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 05-03-2016, 04:28 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 05-03-2016, 04:37 PM
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Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 07-03-2016, 07:56 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 07-03-2016, 08:34 PM
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Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 08-03-2016, 01:35 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 05:52 AM
Heads Up! - by LR Trotter - 08-03-2016, 06:03 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 06:23 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 10:25 AM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 04:05 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 05:32 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 08:56 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 09-03-2016, 12:54 AM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 02:06 AM
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Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 05:41 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 06:06 PM
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Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 10-03-2016, 06:52 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 07:04 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 10-03-2016, 08:24 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 08:59 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 09:02 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 10:29 PM
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Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 11:56 PM
Heads Up! - by LR Trotter - 11-03-2016, 03:43 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 05:25 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 11-03-2016, 05:26 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 05:45 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 10:39 PM
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Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 12-03-2016, 12:31 AM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:09 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:26 PM
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Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 13-03-2016, 01:29 AM
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Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 14-03-2016, 04:18 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 14-03-2016, 05:15 PM
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