15-03-2016, 01:08 AM
David refused to answer this so I consider this debate as won by myself. He's now decided to lower his dignity and credibility by openly trolling serious discussion with two obviously unserious posters. I'll consider David's inability to answer this a concession of the points:
Quote:The flaw in your photo evidence is it alludes to many potential various lenses that might produce vastly varying results, but as I've more than reasonably shown that isn't the case here and you have refused to answer for it.
My links show Jimmy Darnell's small hand-held film camera and lens. Both common sense and the Darnell photo itself suggest the Darnell Film wasn't shot in any irregular mode. His lens alone was just one type and not the several you mention, so we are not dealing with the vast variety of potential lenses you are suggesting. You have a penchant for not answering things directly David. What I said here is correct and excludes a large percentage of what you write. It deserves a better answer. I'm not sure you realize the message you are sending by avoiding it. This discussion should be focusing on finding out Darnell's precise lens and setting. However the perspective that is credibly visible to the naked eye does suggest a normal news camera shot focal length perspective in which things can be reasonably compared.
You once again totally ignored Drew's trigonometry. Again, I'm not sure you realize the impact of this.
What Alan fails to realize is his one step down claim places Prayer Man in a precisely determinable location due to geometric triangulation. If Prayer Man was on the first step down the transit line from Darnell's camera would restrict that to one specific location. If that location was mapped it would be about 3 feet from the west wall. Drew recognized that the combination of Prayer Man's head being in line with the aluminum frame and Darnell's approximate 20 degree angle to the portal creates a geometric triangulation in which certain measurements can be made. If that triangle is made with Prayer Man located on the first step down the side of the triangle from Prayer Man to the west wall is about 3 feet long and is therefore too long to allow Ford's leaning against the wall with crossed arms claim. I posted this to Ford but he refused to answer it. Drew also demanded an answer to this and got none. Mr Ford fails to realize a basic thing, the visible image in Darnell precludes Prayer Man being on the first step down and leaning against the wall because there would not be the gap you see between Prayer Man's elbow and the faux brickwork pillar. Prayer Man would be visibly further left and forward if he were in that position. And since this proves Prayer Man is not leaning his true position of facing Frazier (that Kamp admitted) would not line up with Frazier from the step. The two film clips I referenced prove it beyond a doubt. This is the best photogrammetry involved with Prayer Man that continues to be ignored and answered with deficient arguments that are so far beneath the level of discussion it represents that they serve as self-refutation of the offerers more than anything else.