16-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Yeah, it is all connected.
First, Peters explanation for Palmes murder is essentially the same given by Victor Ostrovsky for Barschels murder. That is, Iran-Contra. Actually a version of Iran-Contra, that has not been admitted officially. I believe it basically, but there may be other aspects to it as well.
Then, Stoffberg is also connected to the October Surprise, which is connected to Iran-Contra.
October Surprise is connected to all sorts of things, like Russbacher, Marcos Gold and whatnot.
Stoffberg is connected to Reiner Jacobi in more than one way, who is deep in Marcos Gold, possibly on the good side.
Marcos Gold is connected to Switzerland, as is Iran-Contra and Barschel, and everything else having to do with illegal money.
Russbacher is connected to Mind Control and a million other things.
And yeah, Palmes murder is connected to Nazis, Coetzee is connected to Neethling and Wouter Basson, who, shock horror, is connected to Dr. Kellys death, and therefore to Britain, Iran War, and Anthrax. Yeah, connections to French Atomic Industry and Elf, Israel/Mossad, German (East and West) arms industry and whoever runs around in Europe, Australia and Asia can also be seen.
From http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSe...Id=2622765
South Africa
South Africa's 'own Dr Mengele' General Lothar Neethling dies of lung cancer in Pretoria
July 13, 2005 Edition 1
Max du Preez
Few of apartheid's functionaries were so admired and despised at the same time as General Lothar Neethling, founder of the South African Police forensics unit in 1971, who died of lung cancer in Pretoria on Monday.
He was a leading member of the Afrikaans Academy of Arts and Science, who gave him a gold medal. He was a respected figure in Afrikanerdom who described himself as a staunch Christian. He was a police legend who received seven SAP medals. The Taiwanese government gave him two medals.
Neethling was widely regarded as a brilliant scientist and chemist with two PhDs. But in November 1989 his dark side was exposed, and after that he was often referred to as South Africa's own "Dr Mengele".
The connection to Nazi Germany had another side to it: Lothar Paul Neethling was born in Germany in August 1935 and came to South Africa as one of many German war orphans adopted by Afrikaans couples.
In 1989 Dirk Coetzee, a former commander of the SAP's Vlakplaas death squad, spilled the beans in an interview with the anti-apartheid Afrikaans newspaper Vrye Weekblad.
He spoke in detail about Neethling's reputation as a "genius chemist" who had developed all kinds of "remedies" called "Lothar se doepa" (Lothar's Potion) to use on anti-apartheid activists.
Coetzee said he had visited Neethling at home and in his laboratory to collect "knock-out drops" and toxins which he administered to ANC cadres. (The ANC documented many cases where guerrillas died mysteriously and were later found to have been poisoned.)
Neethling denied it, saying he only did forensic work, and sued Vrye Weekblad for R1 million for defamation. The court case lasted many months.
Apart from Coetzee's evidence, a secret agent of the security forces, Leslie Lesia, testified that he was given some of "Lothar's doepa" to kill ANC activists in Mozambique and Zimbabwe.
Justice Johan Kriegler accepted Coetzee's version of events, found Neethling had lied in court, and dismissed the claim. Neethling took the judgment to the Appellate Division , where the judges declared they could not determine the truth, because both Neethling and Coetzee probably lied.
In a judgment labelled a blow for press freedom, they found the paper had slandered Neethling. Vrye Weekblad was ordered to pay him R90 000 with costs. This forced Vrye Weekblad to close a month later.
After the shock judgment, a Cape Town prosecutor declared Neethling had once boasted to him how he had developed a potion to mimic a heart attack.
Another policeman said Neethling offered to give him a capsule that he could use to kill ANC leader Tony Yengeni by giving him a heart attack.
During the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's hearings on the former government's Chemical and Biological Warfare Programme in 1996, it became clear that Neethling was in fact the one-time mentor of Wouter Basson, the head of that programme who had earned the nickname "Dr Death".
Neethling admitted he had experimented with mind-altering drugs and other concoctions. After the TRC hearings I laid criminal charges of murder, conspiracy to murder, perjury and fraud against Neethling at the Brixton police station. As far as I know, there was never a thorough investigation.
Dirk Coetzee, who maintains his version was correct, said this week Neethling was responsible for the deaths of many opponents of apartheid.
"His death is the best news I've had for years," he said.
First, Peters explanation for Palmes murder is essentially the same given by Victor Ostrovsky for Barschels murder. That is, Iran-Contra. Actually a version of Iran-Contra, that has not been admitted officially. I believe it basically, but there may be other aspects to it as well.
Then, Stoffberg is also connected to the October Surprise, which is connected to Iran-Contra.
October Surprise is connected to all sorts of things, like Russbacher, Marcos Gold and whatnot.
Stoffberg is connected to Reiner Jacobi in more than one way, who is deep in Marcos Gold, possibly on the good side.
Marcos Gold is connected to Switzerland, as is Iran-Contra and Barschel, and everything else having to do with illegal money.
Russbacher is connected to Mind Control and a million other things.
And yeah, Palmes murder is connected to Nazis, Coetzee is connected to Neethling and Wouter Basson, who, shock horror, is connected to Dr. Kellys death, and therefore to Britain, Iran War, and Anthrax. Yeah, connections to French Atomic Industry and Elf, Israel/Mossad, German (East and West) arms industry and whoever runs around in Europe, Australia and Asia can also be seen.
From http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSe...Id=2622765
South Africa
South Africa's 'own Dr Mengele' General Lothar Neethling dies of lung cancer in Pretoria
July 13, 2005 Edition 1
Max du Preez
Few of apartheid's functionaries were so admired and despised at the same time as General Lothar Neethling, founder of the South African Police forensics unit in 1971, who died of lung cancer in Pretoria on Monday.
He was a leading member of the Afrikaans Academy of Arts and Science, who gave him a gold medal. He was a respected figure in Afrikanerdom who described himself as a staunch Christian. He was a police legend who received seven SAP medals. The Taiwanese government gave him two medals.
Neethling was widely regarded as a brilliant scientist and chemist with two PhDs. But in November 1989 his dark side was exposed, and after that he was often referred to as South Africa's own "Dr Mengele".
The connection to Nazi Germany had another side to it: Lothar Paul Neethling was born in Germany in August 1935 and came to South Africa as one of many German war orphans adopted by Afrikaans couples.
In 1989 Dirk Coetzee, a former commander of the SAP's Vlakplaas death squad, spilled the beans in an interview with the anti-apartheid Afrikaans newspaper Vrye Weekblad.
He spoke in detail about Neethling's reputation as a "genius chemist" who had developed all kinds of "remedies" called "Lothar se doepa" (Lothar's Potion) to use on anti-apartheid activists.
Coetzee said he had visited Neethling at home and in his laboratory to collect "knock-out drops" and toxins which he administered to ANC cadres. (The ANC documented many cases where guerrillas died mysteriously and were later found to have been poisoned.)
Neethling denied it, saying he only did forensic work, and sued Vrye Weekblad for R1 million for defamation. The court case lasted many months.
Apart from Coetzee's evidence, a secret agent of the security forces, Leslie Lesia, testified that he was given some of "Lothar's doepa" to kill ANC activists in Mozambique and Zimbabwe.
Justice Johan Kriegler accepted Coetzee's version of events, found Neethling had lied in court, and dismissed the claim. Neethling took the judgment to the Appellate Division , where the judges declared they could not determine the truth, because both Neethling and Coetzee probably lied.
In a judgment labelled a blow for press freedom, they found the paper had slandered Neethling. Vrye Weekblad was ordered to pay him R90 000 with costs. This forced Vrye Weekblad to close a month later.
After the shock judgment, a Cape Town prosecutor declared Neethling had once boasted to him how he had developed a potion to mimic a heart attack.
Another policeman said Neethling offered to give him a capsule that he could use to kill ANC leader Tony Yengeni by giving him a heart attack.
During the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's hearings on the former government's Chemical and Biological Warfare Programme in 1996, it became clear that Neethling was in fact the one-time mentor of Wouter Basson, the head of that programme who had earned the nickname "Dr Death".
Neethling admitted he had experimented with mind-altering drugs and other concoctions. After the TRC hearings I laid criminal charges of murder, conspiracy to murder, perjury and fraud against Neethling at the Brixton police station. As far as I know, there was never a thorough investigation.
Dirk Coetzee, who maintains his version was correct, said this week Neethling was responsible for the deaths of many opponents of apartheid.
"His death is the best news I've had for years," he said.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".