Egypt Air flight MS804 goes off radar en route from Paris

[Peter Lemkin]

EgyptAir said there were 10 crew members on board. There are indications some of them were members of the Egyptian security services. - BBC

Not sure if any were actual Egyptian 'security services' [intelligence services]...not saying no, but fairly definite was there were three 'air martials' onboard. News sources are quoting the French as saying the plane definitely crashed after a very abrupt decent and rapid side to side movements. Little more seems to be known and I'm surprised no wreckage has yet been spotted - it certainly will be and the flight recorders will easily be found, as well. The sea is not very deep in that area and is close to land on all sides. Sounds to me like major aircraft failure - only to be determined if intentional or accidental. It is a bit ominous that it occurred as soon as the plane entered Egyptian airspace, but could be a coincidence. From that altitude, I doubt there are any survivors - they would have almost certainly already have been spotted. Of interest, perhaps, is that at the French airport from which it took off a very sizable % of the ground staff that handle baggage and the planes were recently fired as possible security threats. Whether real threats or not, someone could have been upset at that action. Again, could be coincidental. If targeted, it would be at one or more of the passengers/items in the hold, or Egypt and/or Egypt Air more than France or the French, as most passengers were Egyptian not French.