16-07-2016, 09:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 16-07-2016, 11:18 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
David Guyatt Wrote:There was a newsclip of the recent NATO meeting where the delegates left the meeting two by two, Obama with Cameron and so on, but the last figure out was a very lonely looking Erdogan. No one would speak to him or appeared to acknowledge him. He was the nowhere man.
The clip then switched to the official dinner, when Cameron sat down next to Obama with Erdogan on his other side. Cameron blanked him altogether - obviously so - and then exchanged a glance with Obama that spoke volumes. I've tried to find this clip but have been unable to.
Anyway, this was hot on the heels of Erdogan's lettrr of apology to Putin. Clearly he was repositioning himself. Or trying to anyway.
My guess is that this event at NATO sent a clear message to the plotters. The US & NATO no longer trust him.
There has always been antagonism between the Turkish Military [who are followers of Ataturk and his secular philosophy] and Erdogan and his gang [who want a Muslim religious-based Turkey]. To me the motive and impetus of the plotters is not clear yet - real mini-rebellion or false-flag to bolster Erdogan's position internally? In either case, Turkey's international status certainly has taken a big downward hit. I can understand the public coming out in the streets to oppose the 'coup', but I think they will feel used in the end. Most young educated Turks never want another military government or coup, even if they mostly do not like Erdogan. We haven't yet mentioned the Turkish Deep State which likely had their hands in this pie.
I agree that Erdogan's recent rapprochement with Putin probably won him no marks on his dance card at NATO.
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